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New Cabin baggage rules for 2023 Ryanair, EJ, Jet2,Tui, BA

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adithorp wrote:
I travelled Ryanair in summer like that without issue. You have to book the priority option though to get the second bag allowance. Priority is also limited numbers so might not be available. They weren't letting anyone without priority through with second bag and charging them to put it in the hold.

Aye we have booked priority. Its just trying to combine boots and helmet into it. I would use a hire helmet, but I'm a specs wearer so need my Visor helmet. What helmet do you have in the summer, or when you said like that - did you mean holdall as 2nd bag??
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I meant 2nd bag
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adithorp wrote:
I meant 2nd bag

OK. different situation.

Hopefully the general queue gets more scrutiny than the priority queue then.

Will see which of my not quite 20cm width bags looks smallest but will still take my helmet inside if necessary. I think gangling it outside is a red rag to a bull on Ryan Air, other airlines seem more relaxed from experience.
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On my jet2 flights to and from Bristol to Chambery, a lot of people had 2 and a few 3 hand luggage bags, no one was stopped. One guy had large hold-all, boot bag and small rucksack.
They were going down the line giving out “under seat” stickers but people just ignored it.
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how are TUI enforcing the one set of skis in a bag? Can they ask you to open your bags at check in?
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@o11y, they can, but probably won't
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@o11y,
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how are TUI enforcing the one set of skis in a bag? Can they ask you to open your bags at check in?



Weight. I've never been asked to open any bags, but they do weigh them. I guess if you have a ski holdall sans wheels you may be able to get in two pairs of planks in under 15kgs. Don't forget that weight is combined, if you've paid for 35kgs total (20 + 15) then that's what you get as long as no one bag is over the max allowance. It's also combined weight within your group too.
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@o11y,
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how are TUI enforcing the one set of skis in a bag? Can they ask you to open your bags at check in?



Weight. I've never been asked to open any bags, but they do weigh them. I guess if you have a ski holdall sans wheels you may be able to get in two pairs of planks in under 15kgs. Don't forget that weight is combined, if you've paid for 35kgs total (20 + 15) then that's what you get as long as no one bag is over the max allowance. It's also combined weight within your group too.


I would expect them to weigh them, as per any other airline, but as long as you are within the allowance then i was just wondering if they could actually ask you to open your bags to check. I have not flown with TUI/Crystal for over 10 years so i suppose i will find out in a few weeks if they enforce it or not.
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@o11y, if you are not over weight in your group then they won't. I've never heard of TUI/Crystal asking to open a bag but I do know they charge if your group is over weight. I'm quite lucky because the two mates I normally fly with are short back bottoms and only have one pair of planks so I just use up their weight allowance being a lanky git with two pairs!
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tbf, in most cases, the check in staff just won't have the time to ask you to open them, so unless you are well over the limit, you are likely to get through with as many skis as you can get into the bag. Once you get round to oversize luggage, they just won't care.

I suppose there's nothing stopping you slitting a third pair between 2 bags if it evens out the weight.

It would be a real pain if one bag went missing though.
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oversize baggage weigh it all too now in my experience...not sure if they actually care if anything is over weight though!
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What's people opinion on a ski helmet attached to outside of your cabin baggage. I fly BA 99% of the time and max out both my cabin baggage. Would I be pushing it if I had my helmet above this?

Never have issues with helmet. At check-in the carry on and helmet are on the floor not visible to the desk staff. I just wander onto the plane with the helmet either attached to the carry on or in a drawstring bag slung over shoulder. No one ever says a thing. BA, Delta, EJ, Tui/Thomson amongst others. Though haven't done Ryan Air for a long time.

Then I stick it in the overhead or often fits under the seat or enough to convince them it's out of the way.


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BA seem to be the best for skis as they don't make them a thing, and they just fit into oversize baggage: 190 x 75 x 65cm.

Usual allowance is 23kg which should fit 2-3 pairs of skis. Club Europe gets you 2 x 32kg which could probably cope with 8 pairs, if little else.

If you're in a large group on BA you could even upgrade one person to business and get them to carry everyone's skis.
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o11y wrote:
how are TUI enforcing the one set of skis in a bag? Can they ask you to open your bags at check in?


We’ve never known them to check how many but they do get weighed when you do self check in for the luggage tag. Oversize luggage staff (certainly at BHX) don’t bother checking anything except they match the boarding card.

I think it’s more to do with the company hiring you a set should yours go walkies & don’t arrive in resort.

If I do ski in March, we’ll put both pairs in one bag but take our bindings off to fit the 15kg limit & carry these in our hold luggage. It’s not the end of the world if we have to pay for one ski hire should they get lost.
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adithorp wrote:
I meant 2nd bag

Will see which of my not quite 20cm width bags looks smallest but will still take my helmet inside if necessary. I think gangling it outside is a red rag to a bull on Ryan Air, other airlines seem more relaxed from experience.


We are Ireland based so regularly use Ryanair and I find them efficient and helpful, and not the dragons Michael O'Leary likes to paint them as Laughing though do find the Dublin staff more relaxed than Manchester where we also have used them regularly. We flew with them to Italy in summer and had the correct number though probably some slightly too large cabin bags and they didn't care. I can't see most of them having time to worry about a dangling helmet.
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Despite whatever it may say on their website, as well as one cabin bag (usually a laptop rucksack thing) Easy Jet have always let me take a full sized guitar on board too, I've always been able to put the guitar in the overhead locker, with the laptop rucksack under the seat in front. Never had any problems with this, nobody's ever stopped me and nobody's ever questioned it.

I've been doing this for many years now and I've seen other people doing it too.

For what it's worth to know..
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Lauka wrote:
t44tomo wrote:
adithorp wrote:
I meant 2nd bag

Will see which of my not quite 20cm width bags looks smallest but will still take my helmet inside if necessary. I think gangling it outside is a red rag to a bull on Ryan Air, other airlines seem more relaxed from experience.


We are Ireland based so regularly use Ryanair and I find them efficient and helpful, and not the dragons Michael O'Leary likes to paint them as Laughing though do find the Dublin staff more relaxed than Manchester where we also have used them regularly. We flew with them to Italy in summer and had the correct number though probably some slightly too large cabin bags and they didn't care. I can't see most of them having time to worry about a dangling helmet.


Thanks, that's reassuring. Similarly, I will be within the spirit of the rules, if not the exact dimensions. Whilst we could check a case in between us, it can potentially add 30-60 mins to your journey, which is a reasonable chunk of that first afternoon ski time. My other option is one boot and helmet plus other stuff in the big roll-on and one boot on the small underseat ruck sack which might work. I have a week to experiment!!
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adithorp wrote:
I travelled Ryanair in summer like that without issue. You have to book the priority option though to get the second bag allowance. Priority is also limited numbers so might not be available. They weren't letting anyone without priority through with second bag and charging them to put it in the hold.



My friend had not understood the meaning of one bag on a basic Ryan Air flight back in December. She had her one 'small' bag plus a fairly large handbag. I reorganised my one bag and we worked out that we could put the contents of her handbag in our pockets and stuff the bag itself inside my one small bag if necessary. It was not. No one blinked an eye on either the outward or return flights. Possibly she was just lucky.
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Pleased to report I found a small hockey gear ruck sack abandoned by my daughter which is perfect for the "one boot and helmet plus other stuff in the big roll-on and one boot in the small underseat ruck sack" option. Had a quick test last night and all seems to fit in well. also means I can fill the roll on without exceeding 10Kg, which was a bit sketchy with both boots + skiwear in there.
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t44tomo wrote:
adithorp wrote:
I meant 2nd bag

OK. different situation.

Hopefully the general queue gets more scrutiny than the priority queue then.

Will see which of my not quite 20cm width bags looks smallest but will still take my helmet inside if necessary. I think gangling it outside is a red rag to a bull on Ryan Air, other airlines seem more relaxed from experience.
I attach mine to my hand luggage, haven't had a problem once it's not causing a lot of bother, (ryanair)
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I just put my boots in my Arva rucksack and put my avi gear in my hold bag with helmet etc. rationale being i can pretty much get everything else but am like the princess and the pea with my boots !
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biddpyat wrote:
I attach mine to my hand luggage, haven't had a problem once it's not causing a lot of bother, (ryanair)


Reassuring. Cheers.
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I bought a hand luggage bag that fits the easyjet under the seat.
https://amzn.eu/d/e6boTqg
Fits my skis socks and passport.
Helmet can easy fit in my main bag as it takes up so little room if you fill it full of stuff like t-shirts and thermals
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Anecdotally easyjet don't enforce the hand luggage, the backpack I now use (without issue) is a bit over the free size and my parents in law travel with pretty large backpacks when they visit and have had no issues. I wouldn't have the guts to use my large Cabin Max bag which I used to use though and it would have to go overhead anyway.

I feel like it's just a way to make extra money from a few who pay and if it results in more people using checked luggage and/or carrying generally smaller bags, which makes it quicker to fill and empty a plane, then they can do their just in time turnaround without missing the takeoff slots. It definitely feels quicker to board now.
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Careful though - whether they enforce hand luggage depends on the airport/time of day/jobsworthness of person. For example, I’ve never been checked on the way out from Gatwick with EasyJet (what with the bag drop), but have been caught out on the return flight from Geneva (to add insult to injury when my wife was with a busted Acl in a wheelchair, which the Swiss guy at check-in seemed to take exception to). Had the same with Inghams/Titan airlines who wanted to check their 6kg limit on the return from Chambery at Xmas, despite boot bags being fine on the way out.
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Tui board / ski allowance - flight only booking told 32kg, then 20kg when booking, then 15kg, phoned to ask for email confirmation which came with 25kg!! Ill take that. just depends on who you speak to
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Is there potential to shoot yourself in the foot by putting 2 pairs of skis in a bag and only paying for one pair of skis? If they went missing would it make an insurance claim that much more difficult? Asking for a friend
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Poshprop wrote:
Is there potential to shoot yourself in the foot by putting 2 pairs of skis in a bag and only paying for one pair of skis? If they went missing would it make an insurance claim that much more difficult? Asking for a friend


The perceived consequence of putting more than one pair in a bag has been that airlines will only pay out for one/ cover one pair to rent until yours show up.

Can’t recall any issues/experiences with insurance companies and attempting to claim from them mentioned here. Be interesting to know.
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Ryan Air boarding staff at Stansted this morning we more interested in getting us in the plane than what bags were being carried on. I wouldn't take the proverbial, but no-one batted an eyelid at our slightly oversized underseat bags. As long as they went under the seat, that was fine.


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quininio wrote:
Tui board / ski allowance - flight only booking told 32kg, then 20kg when booking, then 15kg, phoned to ask for email confirmation which came with 25kg!! Ill take that. just depends on who you speak to

I think with Tui:
Normal baggage.......15kg
Ski Holidays.............20kg
Finest Customers......23kg
Pooled luggage.....max 25kg in any one bag.


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@Old Fartbag, Totally agree.

TUI/Crystal.

Just phoned them.
Ski holidays = 20kgs hold
ski carriage = 15 kgs
snowboard carriage = 15kgs
Carry on = 10kgs as long as it's within the size.
Max bag weight = 25kgs


The very helpful chap on the phone said the hold weight is pooled so one bag can be over as long as the other is under by the same or more. He said it's really down to who is on the desk at the time as to whether you'll get charged extra if over. I explained to him that I'm an old fart who needs body armour, skimojos and all sorts of parapenalia which won't fit in 35 kgs but I just had to swallow it and buy another board/ski carriage...cheaper than hiring skis for a couple of days is the way I look at it.
So I'm taking 1 hold bag and 1 coffin wheelie bag (because I don't want to lug about 3 bags) and a small carry on. I'll try to remember to report back in just over a week when I come back.
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I flew with Tui yesterday. No issues with taking your helmet or duty free as well as your cabin luggage
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Am now packing and bumping this to check on the "helmet under seat in front" question. A helmet's smallest dimension is more than 20 cms. Will it really go under the seat in front? The alternative is in the suitcase in the hold, but there are two of us, and two helmets take up a big chunk of room,even filled with socks and knickers.
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@pam w, Airlines vary - underseat dimensions to fit under the seat in front, is 40x20x25cm
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@pam w, yes it will fit but people usually just attach it to their backpack
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But nowadays the backpack has to fit under the seat in front.
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Need to pay a lot extra for a bigger cabin bag in the overhead locker
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pam w wrote:
But nowadays the backpack has to fit under the seat in front.


My backpack fits under the seat, but I do pay for the extra cabin bag for boots/mojo
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I;ve paid for ski and boot carriage (in the hold). My backpack will fit under the seat in front normally, but not sure it will with helmet in - I suppose we could wear helmets if necessary.
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