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So are you going to address the questions about employment law, residence permits and insurance?
Do you know what would happen if one of your neighbours reported you to the police? I've had friends who were reported, although in their case they did actually have all the necessary permits and documentation. Are you confident that you'd pass inspection? The Swiss are not known to be shy in calling the police if they think someone breaking the rules.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Chaletbeauroc wrote: |
| The Swiss are not known to be shy in calling the police if they think someone breaking the rules. |
Not shy? You mean they'll be straight on the blower to denounce you the second they get the news  .
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Do you know what would happen if one of your neighbours reported you to the police?. |
Locked up in his/her basement doing the laundry…allegedly?
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I love this yearly thread. I mostly love how upset everyone gets about it Every. Single. Year. Without fail.
After however many years one might have thought some of them would have got bored of it and moved on…But no.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Extremophile, +1 
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| Extremophile wrote: |
I love this yearly thread. I mostly love how upset everyone gets about it Every. Single. Year. Without fail.
After however many years one might have thought some of them would have got bored of it and moved on…But no. |
Look on it like an annual tradition. Instead of Santa Claus, nixmap puts on his REPW hat and sorta promises goodies to the good boys and girls but is totally evasive about the actual expectations/workload and even more so about the legalities. Some of the shade thrown is from people with good intentions trying to prevent the unwary getting into a difficult position with the Swiss authorities and others just for the hell of it. And pam w always of course mentions that the truly wealthy have no problem actually paying people to do the housekeeper/concierge/chef job.
My own thinking is that this has been going on for so long that if it is genuine and the slaves/best buddies have such a good time that the position must surely being filled from word of mouth referrals by now so I suspect nixmap is really in it for the trolls.
Me I'm mainly in it for the stories of the midweek midget porn shoots and goat orgies.
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My own thinking is that this has been going on for so long that if it is genuine and the slaves/best buddies have such a good time that the position must surely being filled from word of mouth referrals by now so I suspect nixmap is really in it for the trolls.
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This. But we can still enter with gusto into a discussion 20 years running about the most snowsure resorts in mid-December or whether it is criminally negligent to ski with music (that is overdue a run through.....). So discussing whether being asked to do all this work, for an unspecified time, for no pay is, or is not, the opportunity of a lifetime is child's play.
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| Extremophile wrote: |
I love this yearly thread. I mostly love how upset everyone gets about it Every. Single. Year. Without fail.
After however many years one might have thought some of them would have got bored of it and moved on…But no. |
Look on it like an annual tradition. Instead of Santa Claus, nixmap puts on his REPW hat and sorta promises goodies to the good boys and girls but is totally evasive about the actual expectations/workload and even more so about the legalities. Some of the shade thrown is from people with good intentions trying to prevent the unwary getting into a difficult position with the Swiss authorities and others just for the hell of it. And pam w always of course mentions that the truly wealthy have no problem actually paying people to do the housekeeper/concierge/chef job.
My own thinking is that this has been going on for so long that if it is genuine and the slaves/best buddies have such a good time that the position must surely being filled from word of mouth referrals by now so I suspect nixmap is really in it for the trolls.
Me I'm mainly in it for the stories of the midweek midget porn shoots and goat orgies. |
If you personally aren’t going to work for Nix - why does it matter? Having a yearly troll fest about it clearly has no effect on the OP because they come back with the same offer year on year.
If it is a free choice of all parties involved, and either party is free to leave the agreement without repercussions why are others getting so uppity?
If Nix is indeed in it for the trolls, why feed the beast?
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| Extremophile wrote: |
| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| Extremophile wrote: |
I love this yearly thread. I mostly love how upset everyone gets about it Every. Single. Year. Without fail.
After however many years one might have thought some of them would have got bored of it and moved on…But no. |
Look on it like an annual tradition. Instead of Santa Claus, nixmap puts on his REPW hat and sorta promises goodies to the good boys and girls but is totally evasive about the actual expectations/workload and even more so about the legalities. Some of the shade thrown is from people with good intentions trying to prevent the unwary getting into a difficult position with the Swiss authorities and others just for the hell of it. And pam w always of course mentions that the truly wealthy have no problem actually paying people to do the housekeeper/concierge/chef job.
My own thinking is that this has been going on for so long that if it is genuine and the slaves/best buddies have such a good time that the position must surely being filled from word of mouth referrals by now so I suspect nixmap is really in it for the trolls.
Me I'm mainly in it for the stories of the midweek midget porn shoots and goat orgies. |
If you personally aren’t going to work for Nix - why does it matter? Having a yearly troll fest about it clearly has no effect on the OP because they come back with the same offer year on year.
If it is a free choice of all parties involved, and either party is free to leave the agreement without repercussions why are others getting so uppity?
If Nix is indeed in it for the trolls, why feed the beast? |
+1 ^ this
Too many on here with absolutely no skin in the game, pontificating pseud-legalese on a subject matter they know diddly squat about.
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@big_ben,
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Too many on here with absolutely no skin in the game, pontificating pseud-legalese on a subject matter they know diddly squat about.
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aka typical snowHeads 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| Extremophile wrote: |
If you personally aren’t going to work for Nix - why does it matter? Having a yearly troll fest about it clearly has no effect on the OP because they come back with the same offer year on year.
If it is a free choice of all parties involved, and either party is free to leave the agreement without repercussions why are others getting so uppity?
If Nix is indeed in it for the trolls, why feed the beast? |
Because it's a mild diversion and people genuinely don't want to see someone in a position of being roasted by the Swiss police?
Who says I wouldn't ever do it? Sounds an ideal sabbatical or early retirement gig IF it doesn't carry the potential to be in legal hot water. But I can't see him ever acting towards this community in a way which gives any useful insight to the real experience so frankly couldn't be arsed with the game playing.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| Extremophile wrote: |
If you personally aren’t going to work for Nix - why does it matter? Having a yearly troll fest about it clearly has no effect on the OP because they come back with the same offer year on year.
If it is a free choice of all parties involved, and either party is free to leave the agreement without repercussions why are others getting so uppity?
If Nix is indeed in it for the trolls, why feed the beast? |
Because it's a mild diversion and people genuinely don't want to see someone in a position of being roasted by the Swiss police?
Who says I wouldn't ever do it? Sounds an ideal sabbatical or early retirement gig IF it doesn't carry the potential to be in legal hot water. But I can't see him ever acting towards this community in a way which gives any useful insight to the real experience so frankly couldn't be arsed with the game playing. |
It’s up to the person/ people who choose to take Nix up on their offer to do due diligence on the legality of the offer, especially as everyone has repeatedly voiced their feelings/concerns on this issue. Snowheads who debate its legality in the same circular way every year while simultaneously declare themselves ‘no expert in Swiss law’ still aren’t any the wiser after however many years of debating it… so, either get a definitive answer on the subject or stop trolling Nix
Peoples unhealthy fixation on the topic says more about them than Nix anyway.
Last edited by And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports. on Fri 2-12-22 17:32; edited 2 times in total
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@Dave of the Marmottes, +1 in every detail
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You know it makes sense.
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| Extremophile wrote: |
If you personally aren’t going to work for Nix - why does it matter? Having a yearly troll fest about it clearly has no effect on the OP because they come back with the same offer year on year.
If it is a free choice of all parties involved, and either party is free to leave the agreement without repercussions why are others getting so uppity?
If Nix is indeed in it for the trolls, why feed the beast? |
Because it's a mild diversion and people genuinely don't want to see someone in a position of being roasted by the Swiss police?
Who says I wouldn't ever do it? Sounds an ideal sabbatical or early retirement gig IF it doesn't carry the potential to be in legal hot water. But I can't see him ever acting towards this community in a way which gives any useful insight to the real experience so frankly couldn't be arsed with the game playing. |
It’s up to the person/ people who choose to take Nix up on their offer to do due diligence on the legality of the offer, especially as everyone has repeatedly voiced their feelings/concerns on this issue. Snowheads who debate its legality in the same circular way every year while simultaneously declare themselves ‘no expert in Swiss law’ still aren’t any the wiser after however many years of debating it… so, either get a definitive answer on the subject or stop trolling Nix
Peoples unhealthy fixation on the topic says more about them than Nix anyway. |
With respect it can't be everyone else doing the trolling. It can't be trolling to ask reasonable but unanswered questions. The one person who is best in a position re understanding Swiss legalities (outside those who are already Swiss resdients and thus unlikely to find the offer that appealing) is the OP who resolutely avoids the subject. That gives me my own personal DD answer.
And who are you to demand that we become experts in Swiss law to respond on a thread? Doesn't strike me that you're actually adding anything either other than in a Scoopsesque contrarian fashion.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Dave of the Marmottes, again, totally agreed.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| Extremophile wrote: |
| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| Extremophile wrote: |
If you personally aren’t going to work for Nix - why does it matter? Having a yearly troll fest about it clearly has no effect on the OP because they come back with the same offer year on year.
If it is a free choice of all parties involved, and either party is free to leave the agreement without repercussions why are others getting so uppity?
If Nix is indeed in it for the trolls, why feed the beast? |
Because it's a mild diversion and people genuinely don't want to see someone in a position of being roasted by the Swiss police?
Who says I wouldn't ever do it? Sounds an ideal sabbatical or early retirement gig IF it doesn't carry the potential to be in legal hot water. But I can't see him ever acting towards this community in a way which gives any useful insight to the real experience so frankly couldn't be arsed with the game playing. |
It’s up to the person/ people who choose to take Nix up on their offer to do due diligence on the legality of the offer, especially as everyone has repeatedly voiced their feelings/concerns on this issue. Snowheads who debate its legality in the same circular way every year while simultaneously declare themselves ‘no expert in Swiss law’ still aren’t any the wiser after however many years of debating it… so, either get a definitive answer on the subject or stop trolling Nix
Peoples unhealthy fixation on the topic says more about them than Nix anyway. |
With respect it can't be everyone else doing the trolling. It can't be trolling to ask reasonable but unanswered questions. The one person who is best in a position re understanding Swiss legalities (outside those who are already Swiss resdients and thus unlikely to find the offer that appealing) is the OP who resolutely avoids the subject. That gives me my own personal DD answer.
And who are you to demand that we become experts in Swiss law to respond on a thread? Doesn't strike me that you're actually adding anything either other than in a Scoopsesque contrarian fashion. |
But if those ‘questions’ have gone unanswered by Nix and unsolved by everyone else, at one point does all of this palaver become trolling - on either side.
I’m not ‘demanding’ people become experts in Swiss law, anymore than you are going to take up Nix on the offer this year or next or ever… but surely there comes a point where you’re just bored of the same debate by self declared non experts in the subject.
At what point after this many years are people just going to ignore Nixmap? Whether you consider Nix a baiter on not. Surely there’s enough information on this forum for potentials to find what information they need - I mean when other topics are duplicated no one has a problem posting a link to the relevant subject matter, but something about this one seems to make everyone else foam at the mouth.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I don't think anyone's foaming. You raised the question and seem to be most worked up about it. I said it's kinda tradition - don't know why you're surprised that there are things on the internet that don't really move the world forward.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
| I don't think anyone's foaming. You raised the question and seem to be most worked up about it. I said it's kinda tradition - don't know why you're surprised that there are things on the internet that don't really move the world forward. |
Lols … saying I’m worked up about it is such a predictable response.
Yes, some people do foam at the mouth with the thread. Every year. If people honestly think Nixmap is the troller here, what exactly is the problem with just ignoring the thread? Nix will go away / stop posting eventually, won’t he?
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| Extremophile wrote: |
If Nix is indeed in it for the trolls, why feed the beast? |
Because it’s fun (for some)?
I’ve often find it baffling or even irritating when people feed obvious trolls. But seems some people find it entertaining.
The saying goes, if you can’t fight it, might as well join it.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| what exactly is the problem with just ignoring the thread? Nix will go away / stop posting eventually, won’t he? |
So would the internet. It's based on interaction. Good and bad.
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@Extremophile,
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saying I’m worked up about it is such a predictable response
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It's pleasing when the truth is predictable.
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Lols … saying I’m worked up about it is such a predictable response.
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As is telling someone they aren't arguing right .
Look on it like this - this thread is a microcosm of everything on the internet. Someone trying to get something for his/her advantage, cheerleaders saying it's a good thing, sceptics saying it isn't, others just playing for the glimpse of goat porn, people telling the sceptics they should just wee wee off rather than be Dolly Downers, counter arguing against the anti sceptics , arguments about the nature of arguments...
TLDR It all ends in restraining orders and police warnings.
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surely there comes a point where you’re just bored of the same debate by self declared non experts in the subject
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We're getting bored by you telling us we should be bored......
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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@Extremophile, as a matter of interest, and given the views you have expressed, why are you even looking at the thread? If you were thinking of applying for the job, which I doubt, you'd have applied by now, so that can't be the reason. Seems to me you are arguing against yourself.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, what questions do you feel nixmap hasn't answered? I'm pretty sure he feels he's adequately answered the questions asked. The issue appears to be that some Snowheads don't agree with / believe the answers.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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what questions do you feel nixmap hasn't answered?
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Hours of work would be the one I'd like to know, if considering this job.....and cost of local ski pass, some idea of transport and lunches costs. Then the two workers could get an idea of how much the "free" accommodation would be costing them and whether they had the cash resources to live the season without any income. He'd probably claim that if you were the nit-picking kind of clock watcher who considered looking after such spiffing people to be "work", rather than a privilege, the job is probably not for you. In fact, I think that probably was one of the answers in the past. He now disdains questions of all kinds - probably just hear for the craic, like DoTM says. It does no harm, except to third parties who fret about it.
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| pam w wrote: |
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what questions do you feel nixmap hasn't answered?
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Hours of work would be the one I'd like to know, if considering this job.....and cost of local ski pass, some idea of transport and lunches costs. Then the two workers could get an idea of how much the "free" accommodation would be costing them and whether they had the cash resources to live the season without any income. He'd probably claim that if you were the nit-picking kind of clock watcher who considered looking after such spiffing people to be "work", rather than a privilege, the job is probably not for you. In fact, I think that probably was one of the answers in the past. He now disdains questions of all kinds - probably just hear for the craic, like DoTM says. It does no harm, except to third parties who fret about it. |
This post answers most of your questions:
https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=111384#2550776
Presumably the arrangement hasn't changed that much. (He may have got bored of answering the same questions again and again  )
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You know it makes sense.
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| @Extremophile, as a matter of interest, and given the views you have expressed, why are you even looking at the thread? If you were thinking of applying for the job, which I doubt, you'd have applied by now, so that can't be the reason. Seems to me you are arguing against yourself. |
If I was arguing against myself I wouldn’t be answering other peoples points/questions, yet the same people come on the same thread every year saying the same things, winding themselves up about the same post from the same snow head… yet they always expect different results, isn’t that the definition of insanity?
I’ve no interest in Nixmap’s ‘job’ offer. And I’m sure 99.99% of people on snowheads don’t either, yet you all keep feeding the beast under the idea of ‘saving’ some poor, naive individual who more than likely isn’t even on snowheads from a life of slavery.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Extremophile, you've missed my point and failed to answer my question. But I don't want to feed the beast of this thread either, so I'm out.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| pam w wrote: |
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He'd probably claim that if you were the nit-picking kind of clock watcher who considered looking after such spiffing people to be "work", rather than a privilege, the job is probably not for you. In fact, I think that probably was one of the answers in the past. He now disdains questions of all kinds - |
Oh my goodness, there are so many mistruths and insinuations in there it is hard to know where to start.
I mean its a really simple proposition where each contributes something that is to the benefit of all involved.
A bit like this forum really
you can choose to donate or not,
you can choose to contribute or not
you are free to leave
and our host (admin) can boot you out if it doesn't suit
maybe Admin should enforce subscription for those who dont post and pay people for good content and popular threads ... otherwise he would be exploiting us .. according to the logic of some in here.
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You seem to be under the misapprehension you are offering some kind of collective arrangement where you’re all chipping in together for the greater good. In actual fact you’re a wealthy individual taking advantage of someone who is most likely much younger and undoubtedly has far less accumulated wealth than you, to serve you and your adult children. It’s shameful that you don’t pay your chalet hosts for their work, and that you’ve convinced yourself for years it’s more than a fair bargain.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Hours of work would be the one I'd like to know, if considering this job....and cost of local ski pass. |
The OP provided a link earlier to the historic information that (s)he originally supplied. That stated:
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| In the week do what you like. Ski passes and transport included. |
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| You seem to be under the misapprehension you are offering some kind of collective arrangement where you’re all chipping in together for the greater good. In actual fact you’re a wealthy individual taking advantage of someone who is most likely much younger and undoubtedly has far less accumulated wealth than you, to serve you and your adult children. It’s shameful that you don’t pay your chalet hosts for their work, and that you’ve convinced yourself for years it’s more than a fair bargain. |
Shameful? Quite the opposite
When like minded people can achieve an outcome that is to their mutual benefit without resorting to financial captivity or coercion then its a thing to be celebrated.
Anyhow there are hundreds of "chalet slave" paid jobs to apply for, this is not one of those.
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Shameful? Quite the opposite
When like minded people can achieve an outcome that is to their mutual benefit without resorting to financial captivity or coercion then its a thing to be celebrated. |
So as long as you don't get caught it's OK to break the law then?
Right, got it.
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So as long as you don't get caught it's OK to break the law then?
Right, got it. |
Total non-sequitur or deliberate misdirection?
Take your pick.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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| Chaletbeauroc wrote: |
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Shameful? Quite the opposite
When like minded people can achieve an outcome that is to their mutual benefit without resorting to financial captivity or coercion then its a thing to be celebrated. |
So as long as you don't get caught it's OK to break the law then?
Right, got it. |
of course. Everyone breaks the law.
You telling me you have never broken the law? never speeded in the car? recorded a song off the radio? been blindly drunk?
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I think its a decent arrangement for someone who does not have the funds or language skills to do a season.
You could sublet the rooms while the host is away 
If in Davos, maybe by the hour
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