 Poster: A snowHead
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| achilles wrote: |
| Surely you can pack your helmet and boots in your main luggage, and put other no-problem stuff in you hand luggage instead? Works for me. |
So, you are happy for your helmet to be out of your control and subjected to the general abuse of baggage handling?
A helmet is a safety item, and if I were to choose this airport to transit through, then I would need to buy a new rigid suitcase to contain it safely.
I have had skis written off by baggage handlers, as someone drove a vehicle over the tips, the tyre marks on the bag were a bit of a giveaway. Decide how many times you would like your helmet stood upon, thrown around (etc) before you collect it at the carousel. Hopefully the airline will be able to give you details of the stresses placed on your helmet whilst in their compulsory care, so you can decide if it will continue to protect you in the event of an impact. Alternatively, drive or take the train.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| snowball wrote: |
| I just contacted Heathrow. Security at all BAA airports now ban ski boots in hand luggage. |
If so, this is utterly ridiculous. Just looked at their website and e.g. for Gatwick
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Can crash helmets be carried through security?
Yes, providing they fit into your hand luggage, but most motorcycle helmets are unlikely to fit in a bag of this size.
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Can I carry gas hair tongs in my hand baggage?
Yes you can but you are only allowed to carry the one gas cartridge that powers the appliance. Any spare canisters must be packed in your hold baggage.
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Can I carry sports equipment such as flippers and fishing tackle in my hand baggage?
Yes, but only if it fits within your bag dimensions. There are limitations on sharp objects and so you should double-check none of your equipment is covered by those restrictions. Fishing rods are not permitted.
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You are also allowed a lighter or safety matches on your person (but not in you hand baggage...FFS) - so you are allowed to take flammable material and the means to light it, but allegedly not an inert lump of plastic. There is no category of banned substance in anything I can see that would cover a ski boot. Sporting equipment (including lifejackets with "small non-toxic gas cylinders") is clearly allowed, provided it is not oherwise excluded (as a fishing rod is a "sharp"). Large inert objects are also clearly allowed, as you are specifically permitted to carry on a childs car-seat (and that doesn't count as a piece of luggage).
Some jobsworth is just making up stuff for the sake of it
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| snowbunny wrote: |
| achilles wrote: |
| Surely you can pack your helmet and boots in your main luggage, and put other no-problem stuff in you hand luggage instead? Works for me. |
So, you are happy for your helmet to be out of your control and subjected to the general abuse of baggage handling?
A helmet is a safety item, and if I were to choose this airport to transit through, then I would need to buy a new rigid suitcase to contain it safely.
I have had skis written off by baggage handlers, as someone drove a vehicle over the tips, the tyre marks on the bag were a bit of a giveaway. Decide how many times you would like your helmet stood upon, thrown around (etc) before you collect it at the carousel. Hopefully the airline will be able to give you details of the stresses placed on your helmet whilst in their compulsory care, so you can decide if it will continue to protect you in the event of an impact. Alternatively, drive or take the train. |
I use a Salomon Container and pack the helmet, well cushioned with soft clothing around it, in the lower compartment. I think it is better protected there than it would be in the rough and tumble of hand baggage in an overhead locker. I rather think that if a vehicle drives over my bag, the airline will cough up for a new helmet; but if it does not, the world will still rotate.
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| GrahamN wrote: |
| ......... but allegedly not an inert lump of plastic........ |
(my highlight).
Ahem. I hope you are not saying I am possibly fibbing.  I now see FTS wrote something similar which I missed because I was away skiing.
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It might be about the density of the plastics used in boots and helmets and the difficulty of being able to see explosives hidden in them- rather than political correctness gone mad!!
There really are bad people who do want to kill you- on planes!
Sorry for being boring.
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| achilles wrote: |
I use a Salomon Container and pack the helmet, well cushioned with soft clothing around it, in the lower compartment. I think it is better protected there than it would be in the rough and tumble of hand baggage in an overhead locker. I rather think that if a vehicle drives over my bag, the airline will cough up for a new helmet; but if it does not, the world will still rotate. |
Thats a nice soft baggie, for your safety helmet. The point about having safety gear in hand baggage is that it can be watched. Naturally your airline will undertake to inform you if they abuse your hold baggage at the time, and won't be leaving it, until after you have head butted a rock on your OP week in LDA. Yes, the world will still rotate, I guess it depends on how much value you place on your role in it. If it's so unimportant, why bother with a helmet?
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I'd rather my helmet was in the hold and my boots were with me than the other way round. If the helmet gets lost or destroyed, I can replace it fairly quickly. If my boots go missing, I'll be in rentals until i can find a boot fitter. I guess I value my expensive/fitted boots more than my relatively cheap, off the peg helmet. (which I wrap my clothes around for packing)
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The thing which makes me nervous about packing a helmet in hold luggage is that if it does get some fairly severe knocks you won't notice, and it's only when it comes to it protecting your head - your life maybe - that you're going to 'notice' any reduction in performance.
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| Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
| I'd rather my helmet was in the hold and my boots were with me than the other way round..... |
Ditto...
I treasure my boots, as my previous ones WERE lost on arrival at an airport: they were in a small case in addition to my main hold bag. So I am feeling pretty anxious at the idea of not taking them in hand luggage, as I've been doing for a number of years now--since my loss experience.
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| snowbunny wrote: |
| ......why bother with a helmet? |
As you may know, it's something I have pondered. I think the main reasons are to prevent minor cuts and lacerations against rocks and tree branches, and some discomfort if I fall headlong down an icy mogul field in the way I saw a friend do.
As for keeping an eye on your helmet in hand luggage - fine theory, but rather impractical once its gone into an overhead locker. Inevitably it wont have much padding around it in hand luggage, and it will be subject to what others chuck at it/falling out of a locker when opened by someone else. I'm content with what I do. I'm happy for you to be happy with what you do. 
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| Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
| I'd rather my helmet was in the hold and my boots were with me than the other way round. If the helmet gets lost or destroyed, I can replace it fairly quickly. If my boots go missing, I'll be in rentals until i can find a boot fitter. I guess I value my expensive/fitted boots more than my relatively cheap, off the peg helmet. (which I wrap my clothes around for packing) |
I've a lot of sympathy with that.
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You know it makes sense.
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| achilles wrote: |
| snowbunny wrote: |
| ......why bother with a helmet? |
As for keeping an eye on your helmet in hand luggage - fine theory, but rather impractical once its gone into an overhead locker. Inevitably it wont have much padding around it in hand luggage, and it will be subject to what others chuck at it/falling out of a locker when opened by someone else. I'm content with what I do. I'm happy for you to be happy with what you do. |
Am I the only person who has never put a bag in an overhead locker, ever? I prefer the 'under the seat in front' approach, just because it's so much more convenient.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| snowball wrote: |
| I just contacted Heathrow. Security at all BAA airports now ban ski boots in hand luggage. |
since when ?? i travelled 3 weeks ago from gatwick with my boots in my hand luggage
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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If i take my boots on a plane, which is now a rare event, they have always gone in the hold. I have never even considered taking them on the plane. The thought of carting them round the airport, and heaving them into the overhead lcoker is a put-off for a start. Mine go in the end pockets of my holdall.
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Julieanne, as I don't have to deal with nasty London (or even BAA) airports, I am still reasonably happy with putting my boots in my holdall.
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Shouldn't cause too much of a problem, don't forget youb have a generous hand baggage allowance, just put some of your clothing in there.
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Helen Beaumont, yes--but most of my clothes weigh nothing-- compared to my ski boots! 
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Julieanne, I agree with HB. Last week my holdall, with helmet, avalanche probe, shovel, and boots, came to 20.1kg. I chose to have a laptop and transceiver in my one-bag hold baggage - and not much else - but could have taken some more stuff had I a problem. As I see it, you can carry everything you need in hold baggage if you fly easyjet - you may need to carry more in carry-on if you fly Ryanair.
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You know it makes sense.
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Julieanne, leave the hairdryer, tongs, straighteners and other gear behind then.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Julieanne,  What on earth are you packing? I had a very comprehensive load of kit in my hold bag - and as I said, some more could have gone as carry on.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Julieanne, only joking.........
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I think it is time for a poll .
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Helen Beaumont, ladies don't do poll dancing here. Oh - sorry, you said "poll". On what?
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Back on topic, checked BAA and they have no issues - given that the whole European hand luggage crap is partially their fault for not paying for enough security screening you would expect them to be the most paranoid and useless feckers around. But no, we have to hand that to Grenoble.
Actually, no, BAA are the most useless feckers around, Grenoble just seem to be wanting to up their useless feckery game.
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It's a money making scheme devised after that Boeing belly flopped into Heathrow the other week. If you have your own helmet then it's a lost sales opportunity if they want to hire them out as the aircraft approaches the runway.
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FAQ
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Of course, if you can leave boots in your apartment it would not make sense to cart them back and forth! But some of us poor mortals who don't have an Alpine abode (as yet!--but I am still hoping ...one day...before my 90th birthday maybe! 
)--we have to lug our ski gear around still... 
?? Wouldn't that solve this problem? 
