 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Hmm I believe Gavin Smith is spancerred by Whitedot so not quite an unbiased review, that's not to say Miles Carke doesn't occasionally post reviews of his Atomics etc on there so not unprecedented. No criticism of the skis or company intended - I'm a fan, just disclosure could be better.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Nothing says "Forum Geek" like a pair of "purchased" Whitedots on the hill.
Last edited by Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? on Tue 16-10-12 21:52; edited 1 time in total
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CH2O, it's genius marketting though isn't it? If you were to see a pair on the pair on the mountain the top coat screams what they are at the viewer. Good luck to them. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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No I think it says, "Wow I finally made it to a ski resort."
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Gavin is indeed a Whitedot Team Rider, under the auspices of our US importer. So, no, this isn't an unbiased review (that's a VERY rare beast indeed), can't argue with the lads ability to ski though, and don't really picture him as a "Forum Geek" 
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CH2O, They have a level of 'intrigue' in France where they have heard good things about the ski but have never seen or been able to try them, like all things retail it's about critical mass I guess.
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midgetbiker, I hope my edit helps.
Boredsurfing, You have a spare door laying around your back yard? Paint it Blue.
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Boredsurfing, that's nice to hear from a neutral third party, so there is a decent level of 'chatter' about Whitedot in france but outside Chamonix? I must admit the French distributor has increased his pre-season order for the second time today and it's only October, has to be a good sign.
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midgetbiker, Bloke I was talking to is an ex French National team trainer and now Ski shop owner in La Plagne Montalbert so has more than a passing interest, but yes they know about the brand but haven't tested it.
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads  on Tue 16-10-12 22:00; edited 1 time in total
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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It is important to get genuine unbiased reviews from free thinkers, but pro skiers or those in the biz........... could say or write whatever they have to
"but you can bet if you asked them they would all say that they were excellent boots whoever's they were"
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Boredsurfing, I'll PM you the French distributors contact and you can pass them on if appropriate.
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You know it makes sense.
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CH2O, Whitedot did quite a few demos in Scotland over the last few years and as a result the skis are a reasonably common sight, especially at Glencoe. I think most of the people skiing them make it to a ski resort quite often 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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who is Glen Coe?
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Poster: A snowHead
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did he do the Olympic Rings?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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CH2O, no dude, you're thinking of Larry Gru.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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meh, Dirty Old Queer, he plays a piano painted blue.
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| CH2O wrote: |
| Nothing says "Forum Geek" like a pair of "purchased" Whitedots on the hill. |
I'm a geek and I'm proud
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Didn't know I was trying to say anything with my Preachers. Or is that for CH2O to decide? I had a test, they made me laugh stupidly at their cheating ways and I didn't want to give em back. Wasn't planning to buy any skis that day/year. They were a bit of a bargain for what they do and at the price they were offering them at. In my opinion...err I mean IMO (still learning the forum geek ways)...
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Comment in the forum after the post:
"I don’t trust reviews from anybody who doesn’t wear their pole straps."
Now THAT'S how you do 'Forum Geek'!!!! People, take notes.
And anyway, just becasue someone's paid to ride something doesn't make their review biased. I've got a m8 who loved a particular product that he used and he approached the company who happily tossed a ton of gear at him (not ski related) to 'assess'. He wouldn't push a product he didn't rate, no matter what the money involved, and he was only too happy to 'big' up the product if asked - no conflict and a very honest opinion by a highly talented and rated participant in his field.
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RattytheSnowRat, One Shouldn't wear pole straps through trees
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Does anyone use them at all and what on earth for?
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They're for hanging your poles over the tips of your skis when they're against a rack, surely?
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Also you can make a super cool ski carry thing with them. I forgot about that.
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| meh wrote: |
| Does anyone use them at all and what on earth for? |
On piste they help with pole plants, pressure etc
Off piste I ski without them
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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given that pole straps help every single pole plant, never using them on the off chance that you might snag a pole on a tree or get caught in an avalanche always seems like an over-reaction
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Can someone give a description for how they help the pole plant and how that helps your skiing without going totally Epic Ski over it?
I'm very curious as to what I'm missing out on.
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You know it makes sense.
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meh, found on Epic......
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The reason for "correct" pole strap usage (up through the loops then back down) is for proper pole plant technique.
When you swing your pole out, it's supposed to pivot on the mushroom part at the top of the grip against your thumb and forefinger so you have a nice smooth swing and so the pole follows a natural path. Because of this, you're not gripping the handle at all when you swing it out (if you do it "correctly"), so the strap prevents the pole from flying out of your hand once it hits the snow. More importantly, once the pole hits the snow, you will feel pressure on your palm from the strap, giving you a very positive feedback from your pole plant. As someone said earlier, proper strap usage is important for good technique |
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Guys, guys - missing the point but extra stars for showing some true Forum geek action.
Cynic, that's why one uses Leki's nice click-trigger system - no straps, best of both worlds and easy for lift queues.
meh, if correctly set for length they stop the hand sliding down the pole and so enhance the downward pressure, makes it easier to grip the pole more lightly rather than having to grimly throttle the hand grip each time. Hand cramp's a b1tch.
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So the answer is a marginal increase in security and support?
My favourite reply on that thread:
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| The plane would take off only if the pilot was employing "correct" pole strap technique. |
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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re straps - mainly because it's a bug having to hike up a steep modul field when you've dropped one in a minor spill or kickback. I'm not convinced by the tree logic overly either - if you're skiing at the speed where it's going to be a serious issue then you're probably competent enough not to be snagging trees or branches anyway, or have bigger issues than a wrenched wrist.
right let's get going.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| fatbob wrote: |
| if you're skiing at the speed where it's going to be a serious issue then you're probably competent enough not to be snagging trees or branches anyway |
Accidents happen, and they needn't happen at speed. Short walks beat torn rotator cuffs any day.
Between trees, avalanches and tree wells (and other sorts of crashing-into-soft-deep-snow incidents) using pole straps off piste doesn't seem like a brilliant idea. I'm unconvinced by the epicski pole-plant talk, and I've never had any problems hanging on to my poles even in moderately energetic wipe-outs, so I don't bother with them on piste either.
They're handy for long flat slogs on skins though.
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fatbob, I've had some geniuses taking out my poles on piste which persuaded me early on that having your arm strapped to a snaggable lever was not a prime choice. I developed a technique where my hand was through the strap but not my thumb so a light tug would keep me attached but a strong sudden arrest would jerk the strap out of my hand without taking the hand with it. Then I saw the Leki system and decided to have that.
The 'off piste' pole logic above makes perfect sense to me - I'm all for going first and letting a kind friend bring my pole to me in the unlikely event it gets detached 
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