 Poster: A snowHead
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ansta1, 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Outside. Some of my boots won't allow anything else.
My understanding of the powerstrap from back in the day was that they were a 'fifth' buckle with a more elastic nature, i.e. they provided a greater range of fitting options and reduced upper tounge forward flex whilst giving some rebound characteristics and so could reduce 'shin bang' and give you a small amount of 'pop' when releasing forward presure (hence the name 'Powerstrap'). I don't see how some of these characteristics could be achieved if the strap was inside the tounge. If when you use the phrase 'booster strap' you are talking about the US product of that name - they go on around the 'boot cuff top' (manufacturers instructions) which I assume means 'inside' (as per the picture above).
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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RattytheSnowRat, interesting so we could technically be talking about different technical solutions, with slightly different methods of use.
The plot (albeit very thin still) thickens......
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ansta1, I think it's one of those issues where different people use the same bit of kit for different reasons. The booster strap guys say you can reduce shin bang by putting their product between the tounge and the liner to provide a padded infill. I understood Powerstraps were suppossed to keep the tounge in contact with your shin at all times thus preventing shin bang that way. Horses for course, I suppose. I don't get shin bang using Powerstraps on the outside so I can guarantee that works but then I don't get shin bang with the one set of
boots I have with a really small strap that just covers the liner inside but provides no padding for the tounge at all. Go figure. I do know racers originally used Powerstraps to provide maximum tightness at the top of the boot which was only achieved by going 'outside' (visons of lycra clad guys lying on their backs whilst equipe manfully tugged at their Powerstraps to get that last ounce of pressure!) to get the elastic 'pop'.
One of the other uses for Powerstraps was supposed to be that you could loosen the upper buckles a notch or two but use the Powerstrap to maintain the top fit which aided comfort. I've done that a few times towards the end of the day when my foot heat is re-moulding the footbeds on every turn and my calf starts to wallow a bit and I can't be bothered with the buckles - just yank the strap tighter and go!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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On the subject of aesthetics: Am I doing something wrong, as no one can see my powerstrap when I'm skiiing? 
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gatecrasher, he does!!
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I finally got a pair of boots with a footbed that cured an old foot pain issue (both when skiing and golfing, or even walking depending on the shoes) from Heierling in Davos - they fit the Atomic ski team, just so you know they agree with CEM - my boots are Atomic, and they advised that it can be down to your personal choice, but that arranging that the strap is inside on the liner will provide a much more secure fit... and it does. Outside is easier, but the inside is no big deal either (at least with a single width strap on the Atomic Hawx boots anyway).
And once it's done, no-one can see it anyway.. so it does come down to your preference, but give the inside method a try - i hadn't done it before, and it is a better method.
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| ansta1 wrote: |
This is how my boots are 'according to the manufacturer images' supposed to be done up.
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Ansta,
It may be that the 2 strap mechanism Atomic employ specifically makes it easier to wear 'correctly' on the inside.
p.s. If you are concerned about what people think when you strap up inside or outside just wear it outside when you are in a cool, whatever mood and wear it inside when you are in an anal, I do everything so correctly mood. This way you'll be sure to get your cucumber sandwiches with mayo all over them or with the crusts off depending on how the garcon reads your mood- perfect!!
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horgand,
trust me i am not concerned in any way what i look like when skiing......
as for the inside outside discussion i dont understand what you are saying. Are you saying that my dual straps are better suited to going inside the shell?
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ansta1, It's hard to tell from the picture but that looks like a dual solution - the bottom strap bites on the shell and the top one on the liner which would explain why they are split in the first place- best of both worlds!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| RattytheSnowRat wrote: |
| ansta1, It's hard to tell from the picture but that looks like a dual solution - the bottom strap bites on the shell and the top one on the liner which would explain why they are split in the first place- best of both worlds! |
that is exactly what it does, lower bit goes on the shell, upper section on the tongue of the liner, works well but not perfect (like most stuff)
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| CEM wrote: |
| RattytheSnowRat wrote: |
| ansta1, It's hard to tell from the picture but that looks like a dual solution - the bottom strap bites on the shell and the top one on the liner which would explain why they are split in the first place- best of both worlds! |
that is exactly what it does, lower bit goes on the shell, upper section on the tongue of the liner, works well but not perfect (like most stuff) |
yeah but thats kind of by default as the tongue of the liner sits higher and given its one strap doing the tensioning its only going to go as tight as the one that strap that is the hardest to do up so probably the one on the shell rather than the one on the tongue, but i agree there may be an element of enhancement of tighening in the top strap pulls the tongue tighter and allows the shell to go tighter.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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incidentally where did you get your boots as I'm looking for a pair of Atomic 130s currently? thanks
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Poster: A snowHead
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horgand,
incidentally i dont actually mind as i think i do my powerstraps up the only way that it is technically possible.  I was however curious as to what is the correct way of dong things as if you read the full thread i have been using my powerstraps on the outside (but under my ski trousers sothey cant be seen for well over 10 years) and it seems it is not a simple in or out answer.
btw I got my boots from colin at solutions4feet and am a very happy bunny.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| coops1967 wrote: |
I finally got a pair of boots with a footbed that cured an old foot pain issue (both when skiing and golfing, or even walking depending on the shoes) from Heierling in Davos - they fit the Atomic ski team, just so you know they agree with CEM - my boots are Atomic, and they advised that it can be down to your personal choice, but that arranging that the strap is inside on the liner will provide a much more secure fit... and it does. Outside is easier, but the inside is no big deal either (at least with a single width strap on the Atomic Hawx boots anyway).
And once it's done, no-one can see it anyway.. so it does come down to your preference, but give the inside method a try - i hadn't done it before, and it is a better method. |
Must try that with my Hawx, have always dome them up outside as the what the picture show!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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horgand,
just to clarify i am most unlikely to change the way i do my powerstraps up, but this query as started, not by me i hasten to add has highlighted the fact that there is no clear answer as to how fitted powerstraps or indeed after market booster straps are to be used.
I am sure your comments were tongue in cheek
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Two whole pages to say yes or no or it don't matter . . . Hmmmmm anyone would think it was Summer 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Masque, inny or outee masque?
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ansta1, You'll have to catch me with my pants down to know.
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i have a theory about innee and outee and small vs large feet (well actually its my BIL's) but my experience holds it true this far....
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I have average feet and big hands and yer inny/outee question is more a lard based equation
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Masque, it is a female orientated theory......
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Masque, ansta1, get a room
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red 27, cant he already has one with oliviadb......
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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red 27, cant he already has one with oliviadb......
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red 27, I slide 4 ways
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You know it makes sense.
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we are still talking about power straps?
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