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| rjs wrote: |
| red 27, You are not alone, my favorite lifts are Pomas. |
Me too, so long as it's not too long and cold.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Chairlifts are easier with kids I think. Gondolas, esp. those with skis on the outside, are damn awkward with kids and umpteen sets of skis. I really liked those lovely chairlifts that we found in Austria last year with heated seats and covers - Moraine in VT could do with a set of those being installed!!
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| Megamum wrote: |
| Chairlifts are easier with kids I think. Gondolas, esp. those with skis on the outside, are damn awkward with kids and umpteen sets of skis. I really liked those lovely chairlifts that we found in Austria last year with heated seats and covers - Moraine in VT could do with a set of those being installed!! |
Where in Austria was that? They have them in Lofer too (Edge of Salzburgerland and Tirol)
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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RibenaRockstar, lots in Lech, Ischgl and Zell am Zee
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Another vote for pomas especially when its dumping in the trees and no one else is around.
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| fatbob wrote: |
| surface lifts will always have a place in glaciated terrain and as a ultimate access for higher level terrain IMO (with lower uplift requirements). |
T-bars ain't the only kind of surface lift, thankfully.
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Any lift that results in you standing is absolute rubbish. Lifts have 3 purposes:
1) To get you up the hill
2) To facilitate the use of hip flask
3) To Have a bloody good rest in comfort
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4) Take some photos
5) Discuss what's for tea
6) Consider if it's too early for a Vin Chaud
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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7) Play I-spy (something beginning with S)
8 ) Laugh at the wipeouts
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| RibenaRockstar wrote: |
| Megamum wrote: |
| Chairlifts are easier with kids I think. Gondolas, esp. those with skis on the outside, are damn awkward with kids and umpteen sets of skis. I really liked those lovely chairlifts that we found in Austria last year with heated seats and covers - Moraine in VT could do with a set of those being installed!! |
Where in Austria was that? They have them in Lofer too (Edge of Salzburgerland and Tirol) |
Flachau/Wagrain in the Ski Amade - they are luvvverrrly
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| Eeyore wrote: |
4) Take some photos
5) Discuss what's for tea
6) Consider if it's too early for a Vin Chaud |
Now come on, do we ever seriously consider 6? 
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You know it makes sense.
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I alway use go in a gondola by choice, I find it quite hard to smoke on a chair lift.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I prefer chairlifts except for the ones with an automatic bar that comes down with no footrest. It always feels like my skis may come off at any time (even though I know they won't)
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Poster: A snowHead
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They all have advantages and disadvantages, generally to do with weather and how many stairs to climb. I even like cable cars if I'm not packed in like a sardine and I can see out of the window, they can often have stunning views.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I'm fine with all lifts.... unless its a T-Bar. 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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RichardB, or ones you fall off
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| Eeyore wrote: |
7) Play I-spy (something beginning with S)
8 ) Laugh at the wipeouts |
9) Play Chinese whispers on the 8 seater chairlifts (more amusing than it sounds) 
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Chairlifts are easier with kids I think. Gondolas, esp. those with skis on the outside, are damn awkward with kids and umpteen sets of skis.
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Very interesting. The when I was looking at the reasons for the chondola "Le Grand Cerf" at Les Sept Laux. The telecabines were intended for beginners, particularly school children while the chairs were for the more experienced skiers.
I have family and friends who refuse to use telecaines and telepheriques.
Does no one else play chair lift bingo?
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| johnE wrote: |
Does no one else play chair lift bingo? |
 gotcha - I like that idea...
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Detachable-grip high-speed chairs are one of the truly great innovations in snowsports. Chase round a mountainside using only them to ascend and you will ski in a day's skiing the sort of vertical that would have taken you half a week twenty years previously. Any lift which involves taking skis off I regard as a faff and there's also the frustration of not being able to appreciate the views.
But a gondola any day rather than a fixed-grip chair.
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Also to add to the debate, I love pomas and buttons. Chance for a nice contemplation moment. Also when you miss them you can get amazing bruises  (I have one at the moment from the dryslope yesterday which I've been showing off all day!) nothing worse than being stuck on a T-bar with someone you hate.
Also weaving around existing tracks is really fun!
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Chair.
Chair with a bubble if it's windy/ snowing.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Turns'n'Turns, I'd recommend Davos - lots of lovely surface lifts there 
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Chair.
At least if it stops you can jump off, and no sweaty skiers farts either !
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You know it makes sense.
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I think it's possible to overthink some things...
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I can quite enjoy drag lifts too, especially with some good music, and I like the French name for them (tire fesses, though I don't know how to spell it). Drags can be used for some quite useful exercises, unlike either chairs or gondolas and a steep and unfriendly draglift serves to keep incompetent boy-racers on snowboards off the slope.
I spent a bit of time on T bars the last few days, on the Tignes glacier - they're not a historical leftover, but the only way, as I understand it, of creating lifts on glacier ice. I don't like them much. I did go up one with one of the trainers of the French men's A team and felt reassured that he could hold us both on, if I wobbled. Nice to be in such august company, even if he did impart the unwelcome news that the télépherique wasn't just closed because the wind was high, as the sign said, but because it had been derailed.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Didn't something dramatic happen to that telepherique pretty much this exact time last year as well?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Hopefully chairlifts will never completely replace Pomas . Many Poma tows are almost as fast as detachable chairs but have the benefit of being much cheaper to install and maintain, less intrusive in the landscape, self rescuing, more resilent in strong winds and have a lower capacity - making the actual skiing they service less crowded.
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yes to all that. One short, fast, steep drag near our place was recently replaced by a chair and it's NOT an improvement. It takes longer, and because the 2 red and 1 black run it serves has some of the best snow in the area, means that it now tends to attract people who really aren't safe on those slopes. People are just such wimps these days. 
Drags are faster than fixed chairs IME.
I very much hope the drags aren't all replaced. I've known several days so windy that only surface lifts can operate.
However, as a useless snowboarder, I can see a lot of argument for gondolas! Though there aren't any in our ski area, so one has to learn to ride a drag.
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another vote for chair
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Depends on queue and destination.
If all equal....chair.....but that's just because I love seeing my boarder friends fall off the chair when they do that skateboardy shuffely thing when they get off and "catch an edge" (or whatever the excuse of the day is).
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