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Not sure if this is the right forum but anyway.... What are your thoughts on this??
Myself and my better half have been discussing this. I would have thought it would be no problem - at least early on - but she says she would not ski at all if pregnant. Imagine my horror! A whole season spent at a snowdome?
I would welcome views on this, particularly if they are agreeable to mine (!!)
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Had a similar situation myself, with the wife not wanting to go skiing while carrying. So I went with the "boys" instead. She was invited along, but didn't see the point of spending that money just to sit in the chalet spa all day.
If your mrs won't let you go on your own for a full week, negotiate a long weekend as a compromise. But try not to abandon her if she is too far gone! Not really fair to disappear if she is in the final few months.
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cabt belive you would even consider it to be honest
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Why?
Lots of people take part in physical activity when pregnant so why not skiing? I don't mean 8 months gone, but surely easy blue run cruising would be healthy for those in the early days of pregnancy.
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conor, Yes think you'll find that most physical activity is encouraged in the earlier days of pregnancy - at least it was 20 years ago !. Mind you I'm sure a lady or kramer will be along to give you the definitive version before long.
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Is there any medical opinion on this issue? Obviously skiing is not completely without risk, especially considering there are other skiers to contend with.
For info, we're not yet in this 'situation' but plan to be soon and it will I have no doubt become an issue. I would just like to know what the general consensus is.
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conor, there is a school of thought that says ski ing up to 13 weeks pregnant is ok, beyond that probably not a good idea. However my wife refused to ski at all and sun bathed for a week in Deux Alps (maybe the weather made the decision for her - the holiday had been booked before we knew about bump). Her decision was based on the fact very early in pregnacy your ligaments start to soften so it is easier to get an injury from a simple fall or twist. Her friend skied early in pregnacy and twisted her knee on the bottom of the nursery slope after cruising an easy blue and has not now ski - ied for four years after needing a ligament operation!
Mind you, my wife is happy to go to the top of the muntain and sun bathe at a cafe all day - other people are not.
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Slightly off topic.
We had a group of 20 pregnant heifers (Young Cows) in a field when some Army Helicopters flew over very low. As you can imagine it totally freaked them out and then ran in all directions. At least 3-4 of them aborted their calves due to the trauma.
So I would tell my wife to stay at home and with the cash saved I'd go on a second trip 
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| conor wrote: |
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cabt belive you would even consider it to be honest
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Why?
Lots of people take part in physical activity when pregnant so why not skiing? I don't mean 8 months gone, but surely easy blue run cruising would be healthy for those in the early days of pregnancy. |
Early on in pregnancy is just as dodgy as later. What if she has a fall etc etc
Physical activity such as awimming or walking yes, but anything that could involve some impact is just stupid. Its for 40 weeks, trust me, get used to it, when little one is here you wont have any time for skiing for a few years anyway. Until they are old enough to learne obviously.
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If I were pregnant I would still ski. If I couldn't ski then I would not get pregnant! But I would not push myself to do anything where I'd be likely to fall, and I'm pretty good at maintaining balance when beginners crash into me!
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conor, with our first, we went over New Year and Mrs Z didn't even know that she was pregnant - it was that early. With a December conception, you get an August birthday, which means that the little one is at least 4 months (and maybe 8 months) by the time the next season comes around and there are plenty of companies that provide creche facilities for that age of child. So you could plan it so that you don't even have to miss a season. Of course nature doesn't always work like that though does it ...
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| Renry wrote: |
| Early on in pregnancy is just as dodgy as later. What if she has a fall etc etc |
Actually, I'm afraid that's not quite true. Early on in pregnancy the uterus is contained within the bony pelvis, and so much less susceptible to minor trauma.
The general considered consensus of medical opinion (as opposed to knee jerk reaction) would be that gentle skiing in the first trimester shouldn't cause any harm, but that as there is a high risk of miscarriage at this time, would you be able to cope with the inevitable doubts if the worst were to happen on your skiing holiday? It is also true about ligaments becoming a bit more lax, with a possible increased susceptibility to rupture or sprains.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Renry wrote: |
| Early on in pregnancy is just as dodgy as later. What if she has a fall etc etc |
but that as there is a high risk of miscarriage at this time, would you be able to cope with the inevitable doubts if the worst were to happen on your skiing holiday? . |
That was my point, and if later things went wrong would you be able to say, "skiing cant have caused that"
Take no chances, thats my advice.
We recently had a baby (3 months ago) and my wife who dosnt smoke but does enjoy the odd drink left it well alone, and they say the odd glass of red wine etc does no harm. Our opinion was, leave nothing to chance, and that would have included skiing, if she was a skiier.
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My wife skied this year when she was about 6 weeks pregnant. However, she skied very warily and carefully - in the back of her mind was the thought of falling or being hit and needing an X ray which may have been problematic 
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Renry wrote: |
| Take no chances, thats my advice. |
That is a little oversimplistic.
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Personally, I share the opinions of everyone who says no. Skiing is classed as a high-risk sport even when you're not pregnant. Imagine how upset Mr. Baby might be if he's upset by a nasty fall 
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as a woman, I find both the first two posts in this thread pretty amazing. One trying to persuade his partner to ski whilst pregnant, when she doesn't want to, the other implying that no decent bloke would "let" his partner ski whilst pregnant. I could not think of affording a ski holiday when my first two kids were born, and when pregnant with the third I was living and working in Barbados, so I went windsurfing instead (but only till eight months...). But more important, if I were contemplating starting a family with someone who made such a production about the prospect of missing just one year's skiing (there speaks someone who has yet to find out how totally having kids turns your life upside down....) I would think again.
If this woman has a strong feeling that she would definitely not ski when pregnant, then to try to persuade her to do so would be very unfair and probably unsuccessful. Equally, however, if a fit healthy woman wanted to do some skiing whilst pregnant, then I think that should be her decision. It's probably not so bad for the baby as sitting round on a sofa eating ice cream and watching the telly because hubby has boogered off with the boys.
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Skiing's not that high risk. A lot fewer injuries than sports like hockey, lacrosse, badminton. And not just minor injuries - death too! What about horse riding? I'm sure lots of pregnant women continue to ride, and that is high risk.
As pam w, said, it's just a matter of personal choice.
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pam w, I thought the first post was tongue in cheek... hardly grounds for divorce proceedings!  Gaining a little information from the experts - doctors and ski pros - combined with anecdotal accounts, seems pretty sensible to me.
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I know an instructor who worked through the second trimestre but not in the first or third. I believe this was because she felt the that to ski during the first was likely to increase the chances of mis-carrying, and that by the third trimestre it gets more difficult due to size, balance etc.
My wife became pregnant at the end of a season and our daughter was born around Christmas time. We managed a two week holiday in April. My wife's skiing was virtually unaffected and with the help of a nanny provided by the chalet company we managed to combine breastfeeding and the skiing day very well. My daughter for what its worth was absolutely fine, though we did spend much longer than normal driving too and from the resort plus we were very careful driving up and down the mountain due to the pressure changes, with my daughter feeding and sucking a dummy virtually all the way. With a decent baby monitor we were able to enjoy our evenings int he chalet and even managed a couple of meals out with the nanny doing a couple of extra hours babysitting.
I have to say taking my daughter at 4 months when she was still not mobile was really quite easy. As an inquisitive crawling 8 month old (ie now!) I can see it would be much more difficult!
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We already had a holiday booked when my wife got pregnant with our first. She decided not to ski (she was about 15 weeks I think), not that she couldn't have taken it easy herself but you never know when some out of control nutter is going to take you out.
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| Take no chances, thats my advice. |
That is a little oversimplistic. |
What do you mean Kramer, it cant be any more straight forward,
Either you take the chance and ski, or you play it safe and dont ski, how can that be over simplistic?
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Renry, you assume that not skiing carries no risk, which isn't true.
You're also making some very definitive statements about the risks associated with skiing, would you care to qualify them?
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Kramer, here we go again, this has to be one of SnowHeads most contentious subjects. Have any of our lady members skied whilst pregnant?
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The general considered consensus of medical opinion (as opposed to knee jerk reaction) would be that gentle skiing in the first trimester shouldn't cause any harm, but that as there is a high risk of miscarriage at this time, would you be able to cope with the inevitable doubts if the worst were to happen on your skiing holiday? |
Hi, don't know you so am just wondering what your background is given those statements? You sound like a 'medical type'?
We already have a ski strip arranged for March next year and there is the possibility that my wife may be pregnant by then 
She has said that she feels quite happy to ski gently as she knows 2 friends who did so. In fact we deliberately booked to go in a group so that I would have people to ski with so we haven't got the complications of 'go'/'no go' that others seem to face.
I guess I was just wondering about your statement about the 'inevitable doubts'. I prefer dealing with fact, and would it be fair to say that with the risk of miscarriage during that period (bar a bad fall or accident skiing) it would be silly to attribute that to skiing as it could be to so many other factors?
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no, but i spent a month trekking in the himalyas at 4 months .. made sure I stayed below 10,00 feet and no ill effects save that son (now 10) is an adrenaline junkie obsessed with mountains, height, speed, climbing, racing ... could be entirely unconnected though!
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You know it makes sense.
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Helen Beaumont, yes, three times, although I've only been pregnant twice! I was fit and healthy and skied when the bump didn't show at all, and again when I was about 5-6 months. And I was even fitter and healthier afterwards. It's probable the slopes weren't nearly as busy back then, but at no time did I feel I was putting my babies at risk - obviously, or I wouldn't have done it.
They've both grown up to be great skiers too 
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Poster: A snowHead
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agavin, I'm a GP.
This is a subject that comes up frequently on this site. The knee jerk reaction is always the same, that people should not take any perceived risk at all when pregnant, however as is so often the case, what appears at first sight to be very straightforward is actually a deal more complex.
If you were skiing in the first trimester, there is probably a very small risk of inducing a miscarriage as a result of your skiing, however this has to be balanced against the risks of doing other things instead of skiing. By the logic of trying to avoid all perceived risk, pregnant women should avoid pubs, unnecessary car journeys, stairs etc. The list is endless, and even if you did manage to avoid them all, there is still the risk to the mothers mental health, and the risk of DVT which actually increase with inactivity.
I made my statement about inevitable doubts, because in most cases having a miscarriage is a very traumatic experience, and most women tend to blame themselves initially. Now although logically you can tell yourself that it would have happened anyway (which would almost certainly be true), there will still always be that element of doubt in your mind. If you feel that you could deal with this then fine, but if you're not sure, then it's probably best to avoid it as it could be difficult to get over.
As PamW stated, in the end it comes down to the ladies choice, if she wants to go skiing then there's no reason not to, as long as she's sensible, if she doesn't want to, then she probably shouldn't be persuaded to change her mind.
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if she doesn't want to, then she probably shouldn't be persuaded to change her mind.
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I think this covers even non pregnant women!. Alternatley substitute "shouldn't" for "can't"
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Thanks Kramer. Good useful response.
I understand what you are saying - my wife is a garden designer/horticulturalist and I think fully intends to keep doing some light manual work as long as she is able and I guess this is the same argument.
She is up for skiing and I am not too worried as she isn't a risk taker and is quite happy to enjoy gentle skiing (although she is far more partial to jumps than me - but I think/hope maternal instincts would take over  )
We deliberately chose to go with a mixed ability group - as she said that way we could do a bit together, and I could go off with others for my fix, and she could hang out with the beginnners in the group. By the sound of things we are lucky to have this understanding sorted out.
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as a woman, I find both the first two posts in this thread pretty amazing. One trying to persuade his partner to ski whilst pregnant, when she doesn't want to
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I feel compelled to defend myself here. Pam W, please read my initial entry. It does not say anywhere that I am tryin to persuade my other half when she does not want to.
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Myself and my better half have been discussing this.
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That is what I said. We initially disagreed on this matter in that she felt it was too dangerous and a felt it was not. As for not wanting to miss one year's skiing, is there anyone registered on this site who would want to miss one years skiing?
PG, yes the tone of my first post was tongue in cheek, but my question is a serious one and I should net be criticised for seeking to inform myself on what is an important and evidently contentious issue. I have read other medical and pregnancy websites, many of which disagree.
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We had a group of 20 pregnant heifers (Young Cows) in a field when some Army Helicopters flew over very low. As you can imagine it totally freaked them out and then ran in all directions. At least 3-4 of them aborted their calves due to the trauma.
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Sorry, johnboy, are you saying that on-piste skiing is OK, but that Mrs conor, should avoid heliskiing??
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Interestingly, we originally took the view that my wife should not ski while pregnant solely because of the potential trauma that we but primarily she would have to deal with if she skied and something happened. However in the end she skied at 2-3 months pregnant, did not push herself, stopped early (to avoid the dangerous blue runs home at the end of the day).
I have to say i would still have preferred her not to ski but i am a worrier type and ultimaltye it was her decision.
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I end my point with this, by skiing you increase the risk of....whatever with you unborn child. Dont ski, and its one less thing that can cause somthing to go wrong, its not as if you HAVE TO go skiing now. I cant understand that there is even a debate on this issue.
Your choice.
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Renry, I'm sorry, but your perception of the level of risk is wrong. Would you care to qualify your views? I've qualified mine.
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How can I be clearer with my opinion on this matter then I have already been.
That there ia a chance of having an accident skiing, thus possibly causing complications to an unborn child if an accident occurs
Dont ski and hhmmmm what would you have it..... no chance of having an accident skiing,
The fact that you are recognising that by skiing that there is a risk, dont go sking = no chance of having an accident skiing
Not rocket science
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cant belive you would even consider letting her ski while pregnant to be honest 
