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Can someone point me in the direction of the Austrian legislation re no building of new uplift? (When I mean someone, I mean Stanton 
I have tried seaching this site and the interwebby thing to no avail.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Ghost Dog, the legislation is quite old now and is similar to that in Switzerland. No "new lifts/pistes can be constructed BUT old lifts can be upgraded and if as a result of the increased traffic there are potential accident black spots, pistes and lift areas can be extended/changed to avoid these. Before anything can happen there are numerous environmental impaczt assessments. This is what is holding up the building of the lifts in Peisendorf near Zell am See. I could see the track they are going to use when I drove past last week, but no construction work as there are still environmental issues to resolve. If this lift gets built it will effectively open a new area, linked into the Schmittenhöhe. And therin lies the rub, it does not comply with the current legislation but is desperately needed.
There is a forum where people talk about this I'm not sure about it address but I'm sure someone will pipe up with it soon. Unfortunately it is only in German but people report new developments and upgrades.
Personally, I hope someone does post it then I can check on a development that has been approved but not yet started. All they have to do is hang the wire as the buildings have been more or less completed for a couple of years now.
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If you do find a link to the actual legislation, please can you post it up here, I'd be very interested to read it too.
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New lift with new piste connections has been built in La Plagne last season (Bergerie) and new lift and two maybe 3 new pistes, 4 years ago at La Roche.
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Samerberg Sue, cheers that would be great - I'm thinking about basing my dissertation on something a bit like that, and will be in Austria all summer doing the research, so I'll definitely be in touch about that!
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Boredsurfing, which part of Austria are those resorts in
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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And see a video taken from the lift - fabtastic! 
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There are similar environmental complications about new lifts in France. The long-talked-about link between Megeve and Praz sur Arly would go across one of the few "virgin" valleys in the area. I, for one, hope it's never built. There are plenty of lifts on both sides already and there are good arguments for not covering all the hills with ironmongery.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I posted the legislation some years ago on this website. I haven't got time to look for it now.
New Lifts (routes) are still being built, the lift company's got there future development plans in with the authority's before the deadline which was a couple of years ago now.
It can take 10yrs+ to go through all the Umweltverträglichkeitsprüfung (UVP)
Enviromental Impact Study
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVP_in_%C3%96sterreich
Final projekts in St Anton, Lech, Kappl Ischgl See, Serfaus have yet to be realised.
Any lift company that did not submit future development plans I am afraid its history.
Samerberg Sue, above summed most of it up.
Of course old lifts can be replaced & modernised.
There are already to many lifts in Austria. Ski Lift Company's are going bankrupt so why do we need more?
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Sat 7-05-11 10:38; edited 4 times in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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nozawaonsen, ta for that link!... I've been trying to find something listing the new lift build at Altenmarkt. Doppelmayer don't have it listed so I wasn't sure but that one has which is sweet!... although still no manafucturing company listed - although building has 'started' well they have rented a digger!
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flangesax, There are some listed that are not yet confirmed - they are still trying to decide what would be the best option in Wagrain for example and the Fleckalmbahn is being replaced in Kitzbühel this summer but there is no mention of that project.
stanton,
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A slight correction to your English but as for the bollux you are talking we'll just let that pass as another poor attempt at humour from someone lacking practise 
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It was reported today on Austrian television that the chairlift regulations are about to be revised (as kerekip mentioned above). The most interesting change seemed to be a relaxation of the rules which would allow lifts to be built over currently undeveloped areas to link into existing areas. The example given was in the Stubai valley but I suppose it might apply to the lifts from Peisendorf onto the Schmittenhöhe too.
I haven't heard of the Fleckalmbahn being replaced this year, Samerberg Sue, just the Silberstube chairlift (and "bum warmers" in the Hahnenkamm cable car  ) - see in http://www.kitzbuehel.com/de/aktivitaeten/winter/ski-snowboard/bergbahnen.htm#neuigkeiten.
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espri, What I have read is that the rules are being amended in Tirol not so sure about other provinces though. The Umweltschutzer in Salzburgerland are very loud and influential (according to a friend of mine who does the surveying for the lift companies)
As for the Fleckalmbahn - maybe I got that wrong or it was wishful thinking but I'm sure I heard it was being replaced with more modern gondolas that seated more and could accommodate snowboards and fat skis
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Samerberg Sue, espri, the Silberstube lift in Kitzbuhel definitely needs to be replaced with something bigger. It's a bit of a bottleneck. The Jufenalm lift could do with the same treatment. And some of the lifts over the 3SBahn towards Pass Thurn and Resterhöhe are complete relics (although I kinda like the nostalgia aspect).
My friend's instructor told her that they were building lots of new snow cannons this summer too, and were due to cover the Asten piste which I have never known to be open.
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Re ban on new hotels, how is it that everytime I go to Austria there are new hotels? There are another 2 under construction in Mayrhofen at the moment (and the new supermarket).
Speaking of bans, did someone say that snowmaking was banned after a certain month in Austria? Just wondered as I saw cannons on on 12 April.
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flangesax, There are some listed that are not yet confirmed - they are still trying to decide what would be the best option in Wagrain for example and the Fleckalmbahn is being replaced in Kitzbühel this summer but there is no mention of that project.
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The Wagrain project is listed on the Doppelmayer site.
And I guess as the Fleckalmybalmywalmy isn't being replaced this year that the sites are pretty accurate.
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flangesax, no, it is listed for 2014/15 Flangesax I found it further down the list. Interesting list though and as you say very accurate.
The link between Graffenberg middle station and the Griesskareck in Wagrain is going to be useful! They were thinking of using a 3S style connection, but I'm not sure what they have gone for in the end though.
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You know it makes sense.
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flangesax, Flange!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Grafneski, is nowhere safe?
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oh.. and welcome to  's
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