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Flying with avalanche airbag systems

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Anyone up to date info for Turkish Airlines out of Salzburg? Called call centre - not a clue.
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anyone flown via Easyjet with an airbag recently? Their page here https://www.easyjet.com/en/terms-and-conditions/dangerous-goods says ok to carry in hand or hold luggage.

I flew Lufthansa in April this year with the avi bag and cylinder in the hold bag, the checkin man said they'd prefer it in hand luggage, but zero issues out and return with it in the hold luggage.
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@kitenski, Lufthansa told me the same... I took their advice and got the rucksack with cylinder through security at Munich, but not without some issues, they called the supervisor and consulted paperwork I had about the cylinder. There's no way I'd even try that at Heathrow.
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Hello

I've just purchased an airbag with the E2 system and my understanding is there is no gas and no lithium battery so I don't need any special clearance for flying. BUT has anyone got any views on if its safer to pack in the hold luggage or take as carry on to avoid hassle?

Thanks!
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kat.ryb wrote:
Hello

I've just purchased an airbag with the E2 system and my understanding is there is no gas and no lithium battery so I don't need any special clearance for flying. BUT has anyone got any views on if its safer to pack in the hold luggage or take as carry on to avoid hassle?

Thanks!


I doubt it makes any difference in avoiding hassle. However personally with such a pricey item that I could take as a carry-on given I want a carry-on bag of some description, then the expensive avalanche rucksack is not leaving my sight Toofy Grin
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@jabuzzard, thank you! Yeah similar thoughts re the £.
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Interesting (unresolved) thread in the comments here, basically unable to fly with the bag! Can’t be in checked in luggage and also cant be in hand luggage.

https://www.wildsnow.com/32521/the-ortovox-arcteryx-litric-airbag-system-a-review/

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I juste receive my Avabag Tour 30 with Litric inside but I had a problem to take the plane: I wanted to travel from Zurich to Denver but I was not allowed to take my Litric in cabine !!!! the security told me that it’s forbidden following the IATA DGR table 2.3A, As the litric is not a removable airbag it’s considered as “bagage with installed lithium batteries” and the IATA table 2.3A is clear:
“Baggage with installed lithium batteries non-removable batteries exceeding–0.3 g lithium metal or 2.7 Wh = FORBIDDEN” and the Litric battrie is 7.4 Wh !!! Is anybody aware of this problem ?
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After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
Thought this might be useful for somebody. Flew to Geneva early February 2023 from London Gatwick on Easyjet with my Scott E1 30l electric avabag as carry-on with my ski helmet too. I had not contacted Easyjet beforehand and did not mention it at check-in.

Other electronic bits like tablet, walkie-talkies, chargers, batteries, transceiver were in a plastic bag inside the avabag.

Pulled aside at security following luggage scan, had to unpack bag (plastic bag tip from this forum greatly helped). Had full Scott spec printed out, explained principle of it, and security guy went off to discuss with supervisor with spec after opening motor compartment etc. (no batteries and discharged). He had not seen an electric avabag personally though a colleague had. Came back a couple of minutes later and was fine to go on, just repacked and went through. He did suggest unmounting the motor and putting through the scanner in the future may avoid having to unpack, but won't be doing that! Return from Geneva didn't get a second glance.

Hope that helps/reassures those with a similar bag.
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@ficklefisher, thanks for sharing, what spec was it you printed out?
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@kitenski, the document is from Scott's website: https://asset-misc.scott-sports.com/sco/scott-alpride-e1-airbag-system-travel-guideline_1682544_pdf_original_1.pdf

Essentially navigate to the bag (https://www.scott-sports.com/gb/en/product/scott-patrol-e1-30-backpack-kit), select documents link below the product details, and the one to download (link above) is called "SCOTT Alpride E1 Airbag System Travel Guideline".
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As an aside, the security man did start to open the airbag zip itself and I said he was fine to do that, but I would have to re-pack it taking up a large area of floorspace to do so. So he didn't unzip it!
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@ficklefisher, thanks, did you print the whole lot or just the first 2 pages?

Also noticed there are software updates!

https://www.alpride.com/software-update-e1
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@kitenski, I printed the whole lot, on both sides of A4 paper. Not seen the software update, better check that out!
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You know it makes sense.
kitenski wrote:
Interesting (unresolved) thread in the comments here, basically unable to fly with the bag! Can’t be in checked in luggage and also cant be in hand luggage.

https://www.wildsnow.com/32521/the-ortovox-arcteryx-litric-airbag-system-a-review/

Snippet

I juste receive my Avabag Tour 30 with Litric inside but I had a problem to take the plane: I wanted to travel from Zurich to Denver but I was not allowed to take my Litric in cabine !!!! the security told me that it’s forbidden following the IATA DGR table 2.3A, As the litric is not a removable airbag it’s considered as “bagage with installed lithium batteries” and the IATA table 2.3A is clear:
“Baggage with installed lithium batteries non-removable batteries exceeding–0.3 g lithium metal or 2.7 Wh = FORBIDDEN” and the Litric battrie is 7.4 Wh !!! Is anybody aware of this problem ?


I have this backpack and have had no issues. My understanding is that the battery AND capacitors combined are 7.4Wh BUT the battery alone is under the 2.7Wh limit ... so allowed. I'll have to check the specification to confirm this though. I've flown with it a few times now and no-one has questioned it at all.
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@Blackblade, have you not returned it under the recall?
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kitenski wrote:
@Blackblade, have you not returned it under the recall?


Not yet, no. I had left it in Zermatt and used it whilst I was there ... so I wasn't in a position to do so. I'll probably get around to it at the end of the season when I bring all my gear home ... but, at the same time, I'm not 100% sure I'll bother. The pack is absolutely great and I strongly suspect that the recall relates to an extremely unlikely event; I've tested it a few times and it worked fine so I have confidence that if I ever need it it will work. To be candid, I've owned an avabag of one sort of another for over a decade now and (touch wood) never had to deploy it in anger.

Did you return yours ?
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