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I've been looking at a few options and just wanted some snowheas opinions on what I should buy,
I'm going to be riding some deep poweder so I'm looking for something at least 110mm+ preferably 115mm+ at the waist, however it's charlifted and will be riding groomers to get to the powder, so will need something with a decent turning radius, preferably -20metres,
I've been Looking at
Line sir franics bacon's
Line Prophet 115's
Scott Mega Dozers
Armada JJ's
Atomic Bent Chetlers
Line ep pro's ( abit flexy and have lots of reverse rocker which I don't need as I'm not a swicth kinda guy)
Rossgnol S7.117 and S7's (which are a bit out of my league money wise but if they're the best I'll have to fork out)
The prophet's are the stiffest of the lot and also the widest, but in my size (186cm) they have a 21metre radius which I was a bit worried about,
I need something atleast 180cm's too
what are you guy's thoughts on this?
Thanks 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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k2 obsethed
Whitedot preachers
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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If it's purely for powder you want the Whitedot Redeemers.
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how do the k2 obsethed handle on groomers?
And those whitedot's look epic for powder but would just die on anything slightly hard 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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looked at the prechers, they look sweet!!! Where sells them though?
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chazzr, they don't. Very skiable with a normal sidecut section underfoot.
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Yeah I just looked up a review on the preachers, look great, nice wide tip and underfoot, good camber, the only thing that would knock my confidence is the lack of rocker, now I know I could get away with riding powder without one, but I'd feel a lot more confident and comfortable on something with rocker,
I can't find anything useful on the redeemers, if anyone's got any paperwork on them with specs and whatnot this would be helpful
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| chazzr wrote: |
| I can't find anything useful on the redeemers, |
Try this.
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how did i manage this, I put whitedot into google, went on what I thought was whitedot freeride and it was some crappy advertsing site, but thanks guys I'll check it out
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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the only thing that would knock my confidence is the lack of rocker, now I know I could get away with riding powder without one
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THankfully you've only just taken up skiing. Imagine you'd tried to ski without...rocker ?
Heaven forbid.
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I'm not ONLY using them for getting to and from the powder, I will be doing some groomer riding aswell, not much admitedly, but I will throw in the occaisional DD run. The redeemers have no camber and a not so great radius so groomed runs are out of the question for those, the preachers however are very tasty! I like them a lot, has anyone riden them in powder? How is it riding deep powder without a rocker, that's my only fear.
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You know it makes sense.
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| chazzr wrote: |
| How is it riding deep powder without a rocker, that's my only fear. |
What's your fear? Surely there must be a bazillion people who ski powder without using rockered skis?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I've been skiing for about 8 years, I only branched out into powder last year, but my equpiment seriously let me down and I'm a noob to all the powder stuff, sorry for asking for help
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chazzr, the Preachers float very well. Great choice of ski if you are skiing mostly not on groomed runs.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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ok, thanks for the help anywhere in the U.K sells them or will they need importing from somewhere?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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chazzr, PM Dot.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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^ PM dot? I don't catch on, and thanks I'll have a look!
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You need to look at your techniqe a bit more. It is unlikely that your equipment let you down when you went off piste. Powder skiis agreed will help, but not too much. It was not that long ago that we used to ski anything with skinny race skis!
Get some instruction, then when you can manage to ski powder well with your existing skis go and spend your money and reap the benifits.
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chazzr, there's a user on here called 'Dot.' who could send you in the right direction. As rob@rar says Jon will be abl eto sort you out.
Let us know if you get sorted.
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ok thanks a lot! I've looked and Jons and he sells them for £442 which is fairly reasonable, and I will do cheers!
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chazzr, hmmm...
"equipment let me down"
You know the old phrase...
Truly not being hard on you and modern kit does make it easier, but you know, one of the very best all round skiers I know buys his skis based on what's cheapest in the shop at the time.
He'll out ski most instructors I know...
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shame he has lots of skill and I don't, maybe I will one day, but today is not that day
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| chazzr wrote: |
| shame he has lots of skill and I don't, maybe I will one day, but today is not that day |
Think about whether a dedicated off-piste ski with a big rocker is going to be the best ski to help you develop those skills...
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The 179 preacher is a ski I have on order and i ski k2 obsethed 169 with the 98mm waist. Fat and rocker are born out of surf and snowboard technology I would suggest, and although not necessary in my view, most definitely make it easier and will be the way of most skis in the future. Technique is what you need.
As for the k2, you can ski hard and soft bumps, hardpack, park, trees and deep powder and I just love them. I will let you know about the preachers after Ive got them, but do not expect a technical analysis. I will just let you know if the fat ones make me smile. Roll on December
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I can ski perfectly on piste, however I struggled riding powder on my piste skis, I don't ride to say "I can ski powder on GS skis" I ride to enjoy it, and I didn't enjoy riding powder on GS ski's so want to try it on some fat powder skis which are made for it so that I enjoy it, even if I ever devolped the skills to ride powder on skinny skis, I probably wouldn't because I'd enjoy it more on fat's
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You know it makes sense.
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the learning process should be enjoyable...and you should always smile when youre skiing.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Gidday chazzr, any questions fire away. As already pointed out you can buy the Preachers through Jons Ski Tuning AKA spyderjon.
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Poster: A snowHead
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well, another opinion on the whole situation would be great
what would you recommend? Or are the preachers what you'd recommend too?
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Hi Chazzer,Ive had a demo with the s7 and they blew me away it is a ski for everything.It has a wicked turn radius for the groomers and it can handle big fast arcs and floats in the powder you cant go wrong with them,just get ready to empty your bank as soon as you demo they are addictive im just in the process of selling everything I own.
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chazzr, sure, no worries, and if you have already a good piste ski, then something off piste is a fine plan. For those days...
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yeah I looked at the s7's, they looked really really good the only thing putting me off was that I could get something very similar for over£100 less! have you demo's anything else similar? is it really worth that much more?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Best advise is to demo as many brands and models as posible as there are few bad skis these days. Put width and rocker at the back of your mind and demo. This winter we have demo teams in UK, Austria and France and our distributors have demos un Utah, Norway and Bulgaria.
Of our skis i'd be pushing you towards the Preacher if you were looking for a 50/50 on/off piste ski. It rips on all but boiler plate (by boiler plate i mean Mt Ruapehu blue) and has massive amount of float off (especially fun in trees)
The Redeemer would be the ski for 80% or more off piste. Slightly stiffer for a rockered ski compared to many out there as it was designed in Chamonix for varible back country conditions rather than supper dry powder. Great fun and although it has a 27m radius it pivots on a dime.
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demo'ing is a problem, living where I do, the only place to demo is the ellis brigham at my local indoor slope, they have a very limited range, I demo'd some Line sir franics bacon's and loved them, but just wondered if I could find anything I'd love even more,
I also tried some K2 kung fujas and hated them, terrible ski's in my opinion, but other than that, I can't demo much else 
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chazzr, If your demoing is out of the question, then from our range I'd recommend the Preachers. Keep doing your research though like you're doing as there are loads of great skis out there.
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chazzer,I would love to demo the white dot gear i noticed the skis last year and from all the reviews I`ve read they are up there with the new breed of ski that can ski most conditions great without limiting its self as one or the other some people say its not possible to be good at everything but if like you,you like to ski every bit of side powder,trees and groomers there are some wicked fun skis out now.One brand that dosnt get this side of the atlantic is the on3p billy goat which is the same mould as the s7 ,jj also.A ski that I would also like to demo which is totally under the radar is the majestic skis .
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CHECK OUT THE LUMBERJACK! shame there's no underfoot camber or that would've been a perfect ski, might still get away with DD's without camber only just?
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