 Poster: A snowHead
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Hurtle, tiffin, please can I join your exclusive 'difficult to get up club?'
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Megamum, not exclusive at all, which is why, in all seriousness, this could be a genuinely useful topic. (Though I suppose that it isn't a 'ski technique' as such.)
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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We would have to measure your arms first.
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Is it worth my starting a separate thread on side slipping or is the topic not "interesting enough"?
Maybe I should expand - if these skiers are unable to develop the subtle control of edging, pressure and stance required to initiate and maintain a parallel "side slide" at an angle to the fall line for a distance of at least 10 metres, without an unintended change of direction or speed, will they ever be able to ski at the higher level to which they aspire?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Yoda,
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Is it worth my starting a separate thread on side slipping or is the topic not "interesting enough"?
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Yes, it's both interesting and important. I'm not too bad at side-slipping but, occasionally, start to move forward a bit, unintentionally. I can see that this could be very dangerous in certain circumstances, so I'd welcome learning how, reliably, to avoid doing that.
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If you move forwards or backwards when sideslipping it might be that (a) you are not standing centrally on you skis (either too far forward or back) or (b) your upper body is rotating in an effort to stay balanced and is forcing your skis to rotate a bit.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Is it worth my starting a separate thread on side slipping
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Yoda, i dont know is it? how thick is your skin? will anyone get anything out of it probably yes, will you get loads of grief probably yes,
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| Hurtle wrote: |
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They will sink a little bit, but less than just sticking your arm in to the snow.
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Um, perhaps I should lose some weight.  |
Or longer poles?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Hurtle, You could practice side slipping where you deliberately go forwards and back - a bit like the old falling-leaf - and you will get a better feel for control. When I am coming down cat-tracks I will often initiate a high speed partial side slip as practice of direction and edge control.
oh god.... more than 1 post in BZK in a day. I'm doomed
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to become a better skier through deeper understanding of the sport?
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You know it makes sense.
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skimottaret, no - only spending money on shiny things does that...
Time to start my annual failure to read the whole way through Ron Le Masters book.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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stoatsbrother, never mind, at least you've seen the light where cars are concerned  Are you going diesel or are you Clarkson?
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Poster: A snowHead
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I can see a Dragon's den product here. A small device that could be carried or even clipped to a ski pole with a sprung formed piece of nylon on it (like a pop out clothes basket or childs sun shade on a car window often used) which then forms a solid screen that could go under crossed ski poles in deep snow to provide an increase in surface area to push against - it might be useful to anyone falling in deep snow. Such a mechanism could be made very light - or maybe something with large surface area that could be temporaraily inflated to push against.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Megamum wrote: |
| Such a mechanism could be made very light - or maybe something with large surface area that could be temporaraily inflated to push against. |
what... you mean like this >>>>
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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shoogly, Err...not exactly 
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| stoatsbrother wrote: |
| Time to start my annual failure to read the whole way through Ron Le Masters book. |
His 2nd edition is a bit more readable.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Yoda, POWER...!
well diesel actually
Megamum, this?
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stoatsbrother, Well, OK if you really want to be seen blowing that up on a mountain in front of your mates I guess that and shoogly's, suggestion would suffice, but I was thinking something like a minature lilo actually, buy hey! whatever floats your boat!! Something that functioned like a brolly would also help, but be larger to carry.
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Yoda, Perhaps it is down to an overly heavy focus in getting weight to the downhill ski early on in their learning process? uneven weight distribution coupled with a lack of focus on feeling when the skis are truely flat on the dendex due to a desire to move students into turns and demonstate progress before they are completely ready?
How about going back first to straight running with no poles and two fists between their knees and getting them first to feel how truely flat skis behave in a straight run on a gentle slope. Then as previously suggested move to a falling leaf or Baraguage drill where the will at least have some momentum to keep them moving. Then ask them to try a straight line traverse but to release their edges for the middle 1/3rd. Then finally go back to a pure side slipping.
Dendex is a horribly unforgiving surface for side slipping excercises especially if it is dry, or worse if there is a dry mat somewhere on your line on an otherwise wet slope.
(dons and asbestos suit and waits for the feedback)
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| kevindonkleywood wrote: |
| Dendex is a horribly unforgiving surface for side slipping exercises |
The lack of lumps and bumps helps though.
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tiffin, stray wires and lurking dry patches make up for that
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fair point 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Well, here I am as well, proving the point that there is interest in posts on ski technique. More ski technique geekery please.
Enjoyable thread nontheless.
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