 Poster: A snowHead
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Spent 3 hours this afternoon ice skating building up the legs for the flat piste skating on blades - what are others doing ?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Using proper skis
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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nbt, I can't type the noise of the cackle i just let out, needless to say that's the best ever reply on snowheads. 
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| nbt wrote: |
| Using proper skis |
Nonsense, without poles, most skiers would be totally shafted 
It has nothing to do with the length of your planks thank you.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Use poles?
I like skiing on 120cm short skis, which the hire shops often suggest you don't need poles for. Personally I like to have the poles for flat ground and general balance. Some might argue that I should learn to skate, but you could say the same for conventional length skis: I have seen people skate with pretty long skis, so if they can use poles as well, why can't bladers / skiboarders?
As for the anti-blade(rs) sentiment, I think whatever you're comfortable and in control on is what you should use. I've never really understood the "only skis over x length are proper skis" argument.
Ant
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Skating isnt difficult though you need to refine it to just walking on edge...... which is exactly what you would do were you needing to hike back up a slope without removing your boards.
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I can skate on my skis (165cm pocket rockets). I can ski without poles (see the video footage I shot when skiing with two poles in one hand and a video camera in the other). On the slopes, I see far more bladers who cause me to worry about their apparent lack of control than I see skiiers or snowboarders (but I do see those as well)
not all of those points are related.
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smallzookeeper.... it is like skating, but when it is too steep to skate. Like a reverse snowplough..... anyone who is anyone will have done it (even if my description is lacking!).
nbt..... i was only pointing out that having longer skis does not make it easier to skate which your post implied! (even though we all know you dont think this!)
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buns, herringbone? walking uphill with an inverse V
But having real skis they will glide further.
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Dunk, yeah, herringbone or duck.
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Yeah that is the one! I appreciate of course longer skis will glide further, but you could also argue that shorter skis make it easier to do 'the duck' in the first place!
Is the whole 'blades vs PROPER skis' not going to end up killing itself? Some of the so called skiboards are longer than some of the shorter skis you can buy..... at which point the only real difference is shape and use of poles....
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buns, some people will never let it die, it would be ego-destroying for them to even try blades, because they would highlight a lot of issues with their skiing technique.
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You know it makes sense.
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nbt..... i was only pointing out that having longer skis does not make it easier to skate which your post implied! (even though we all know you dont think this!)
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Well, personally I do think longer skis skate more effectively than blades (even without poles; I will never forget watching, froma chairlift, a ski instructor skating uphill with a huge armfull of slalom poles; I doubt that even he could have done that on blades!). I enjoy a day on blades, now and then, but they really are not much use on the flat. However, the newer short skis, e.g. Decathlon Wedze, are much easier to skate - best of both worlds?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I've bladed in the past and think it's fun - I just prefer skis. I also think that blades will allow people to go onto pistes that they really shouldn;t be on
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Poster: A snowHead
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I have found I can skate up hill on blades - but then I can skate uphill on my roller blades as well
It is very easy on the flat although I think I would prefer shorter blades for a more flat environment
As far as gliding is concerned - my initial acceleration on flat is well in excess of any other medium I have seen - including long skis and poles 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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skating is a very good skill to have. if your technique is OK its efficient and not very tiring (much better than poling). that said, i see relatively few skiers skating well. never really felt i needed to fitness train for skating
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I can skate on my 177's. I can ski without poles. I'd like to be able to legally shoot bladers.
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I'd like to be legally allowed to shoot small minded people who think that only their long ski's are suitable for use on the mountain !!! 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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provenjohn, if you can ski on short skis, you can ski on long skis and have mnore control. I kid you not, the number of bladers I see who look out of control *really* worries me at times.
Don't "cheat" and do stuff beyond you because you can use a skills compensator - learn the necessary skills (Says NBT who copes fine off piste with his big fat skis  )
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| Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
| herringbone or duck. |
Duck, please, and the foie gras to start.
BTW, I've seen loads of bladers and I don't think that I've ever been inconvenienced by one. Can't say I fancy it, though.
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nbt, I can Ski perfectly well on full length ski's & have done for years, I just happen to enjoy skiing on 97cm snowblades more. 
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I think blades will tend to look more out of control no matter who is using them..... if you saw a bicycle doing 70 on the motorway, you might think it looked out of control compared to the cars....
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| provenjohn wrote: |
| I can Ski perfectly well on full length ski's |
Good for you; you can't punctuate, 'though.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Also the thread is titled "blades - on the flat ground" there are other threads that are more in need of your attention whatever you do on the mountains and flat parts - enjoy it and try and stay safe.
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nothing wrong with that punctutation, richmond. capitalisation, maybe, but not punctuation
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You know it makes sense.
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nbt, ski's (and the lack of a fullstop).
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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thought it might be that you'd picked up on - using apostrophes to clarify the pluralisation od words ending in vowels or the letter "s" is an acceptable practice - as I found out myself recently when I pulled up one of the content editors at work.  but he does have a full stop...
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Poster: A snowHead
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nbt, no, it's not. The apostrophe is there to indicate a missing letter (as in can't) and relects the fact that in an old form of English the genitive (of some words at least) was formed by adding 'es' to the noun, rather like modern German. the droping of the 'e' led to the apostrophe. Plurals don't have an apostrophe; why would they? How would the apostrophe clarify anything; 'skis' could be a plural noun or a verb, but 'ski's' could be a genitive or (according to your system) a plural noun (the context makes it clear that the plural noun is intended in provenjohn's post).
The full stop was missing from my quote, not from provenjohn's post.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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thread hijackers
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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nbt, I'm sure that your ed is wrong. The apostrophe is there to indicate a missing letter (as in can't) and reflects the fact that in an old form of English the genitive (of some nouns at least) was formed by adding 'es' to the noun (or noun stem), rather like modern German. The eventual dropping of the 'e' led to the apostrophe. Plurals don't need an apostrophe.
The apostrophe doesn't clarify anything in provenjohn's post; 'skis' could be a plural noun or a verb, but 'ski's' could be a genitive or (according to your ed's system) a plural noun. The context makes it clear that the plural noun is intended in provenjohn's post. If use of a plural would really cause confusion, the sentence can be rewritten to avoid the confusion. Conceivably you need to do something with, for example, 'dot your is and cross your ts', and an apostrophe may be as good as anything, but such usages are truly exceptional.
The full stop was missing from my quote, not from provenjohn's post.
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provenjohn, LOL.
Do you wear a silly hat?
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| obelix67 wrote: |
| thread hijackers |
Just a brief diversion up a blind alley, that's all.
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richmond, Apparently like trying to get back to Champery through the dumping snow - with very low visibility - earlier today 
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richmond, I'll ask for the reference tomorrow. But since we're writing materials that teachers will use as a reference for lesson planning (and we have a reputation to maintain!) I'm guessing that they'll be right
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While english is one of my less well developed skills, I would tend to agree with richmond. It may of course be accepted, but accepted does not mean it is technically correct!
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I'll admit I was surpised (as I said, I was pulled up for pointing out the same errore). As a qualififed linguist my english ought to be perfect, otherwsie how would I be able to understand other languages? but as I said I'll get the reference
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nbt, we have an american in our French class that doesnt understand why the rules are not the same for all languages - but then again I normally dissolve into giggles when she describes American as English.
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FAQ
- not seen any out of control bladers - seen plenty of out of control skiers and boarders though - each to their own - 
as long as they dont hit me
