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Niseko, Japan - Season 09/10

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Mosha Marc wrote:
Ten days.

Ten slow days.

Ten slow, painful days.

Then I'll be there snowHead


Assuming your now there Marc, Where are the reports then????? or have you been buried in light fluffy snow Going green
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rayscoops wrote:
right, that is it, I am heading out to Japan Very Happy ..... when does the season finish ?


First week in May for the resort.

Mid-March for pow.
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kitenski, Check this out http://www.warrensmith-skiacademy.com/japanblog2010/ I've got 3 very good friends on this and they must be like pigs in Sh*t!
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Had my copy of this arrive this afternoon our very own snowHead Spyderjon and Mosher Marc are on this and I am sure they are like pigs in poo Laughing
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Linds, If you are in touch with them, tell them 'Recuperating Knee Boy in Guernsey' says hello to Olly, Big John and Jules I'm sure they will have come across them by now and none of the F*ckers have replied to my texts probably cos they are having too much fun!
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Blimey, that powder looks superb!!!
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The pics and footage on the blog IS NOT THE EXCEPTION snowHead
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We're now back, but I'm absolutely knackered. Full(ish) report to follow when I find where the camera ended up.

Gsyfreerider, Olly, Jules and John were in my group at the WSA; I've got to say we had a ball - never stopped laughing, drinking, taking face shots. You'd have hated it.
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Awesome powder for nine consecutive days.
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spyderjon, Mosha Marc excellent. Glad you had an awesome time. How's Warren?
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Mosha Marc, you poor b*gger being stuck with those muppets for ten days, they are over this weekend for my 40th bash so I'm sure I'll get the lowdown on the trip. From what I saw on the video blogs it looked awful so I'm glad I didn't go, just the nine days of powder, I think I'd be asking for a refund....
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rob@rar, lets just say he's changing his user name to archilles
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Mosha Marc, tendon or fracture?
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rob@rar, I'm afraid it's the tendon. Pesky bushes.
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Mosha Marc wrote:
rob@rar, I'm afraid it's the tendon.

Oh dear! Sad

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Pesky bushes.
Indeed. I got intimate with one earlier this season although not quite with such unfortunate consequences.
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Taking measurements from Niseko Now, as of 01 March 2010 Hirafu is up to 13.1m of snowfall at village level so far this season.

The February snowfall was a decent 2.6m Wink even with a week of no snow at the end of the month.

The 20cm that fell on St David's Day (today, the national day of Wales) could be the start of a massive March in the Niseko Resort Area.

Fingers crossed.
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Taking measurements from Niseko Now, as of 14 March 2010 Hirafu has hit its 'average' with snowfall at village level of 14.1m so far this season.

A metre has fallen in the first two weeks of March, with more forecast.

A 15m winter is a distinct possibility Smile
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Hi Mike,

What days are you going out next year, and where would you recommend staying for the the best deal?

Thanks
George
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Unsure at the moment.

Home in Wales looking after my dad. As long as he's well enough to be at home, then I'll be here.

Take a look here for accommodation

http://www.powderlife.com/niseko-accommodation
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Ok it's been a while!

The snow is still falling! We have had really good conditions the last week or snow, no signs of the spring snow just yet!

A few pictures from the last 7 days or so (quickly ran them through photoshop but some turned out a bit poo); managed to nab some pontoons from a friend for the day, really lovely skis.....










Video from Furano from today.....

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Elliot_Simcock, the condtions look totally amazing. Does it ever stop snowing up there? Do you ever get any sun or is it constant whiteout?
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bobinch, March gets a few more days of sun compared to Dec Jan & Feb, there is never really a whiteout as such (definition on the slope is great 99% of the time), just cloudy and lots of snow.
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a couple more Furano videos...



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Thanks for picking up where Mike Pow left off, great to see some videos too!
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Elliot_Simcock, didn't you see the big "No Skiing" sign when you ducked the ropes under that chair?

Me neither wink
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Thanks for the videos and the photos. Every time I look at this thread I'm on the verge of booking flights. Maybe next season if I can find two or three people to travel out with...

One thing which has struck me in these photos is the relative lack of very steep terrain (a good thing in my book). How does the terrain in Niseko compare to a typical Euro resort? Are there lots of steeps but they don't get into these photos, or is the terrain a bit gentler on average?
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rob@rar, For the 20th or so of January Ben @ Japan Ski Experience made me up a package for £1500 inc flights from Scotland, transfers, accommodation (of a decent standard) and a lift pass. Just so happens that I couldn't make it due to other commitments and other peoples other commitments but I think that is a fantastic deal. If you are looking in to it then I would give him an email (I can dig out the quote etc if you want it).
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rob@rar, the other thing I have noticed is lots of tree's not many big open bowls/faces like you can find in many European resorts for long off piste descents....

I'm not sure one trip to Japan would be better than 2 or 3 trips to Europe (complete guess on costs).......
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kitenski wrote:
rob@rar, the other thing I have noticed is lots of tree's not many big open bowls/faces like you can find in many European resorts for long off piste descents....

Agreed, although I think snow quality would make up for it (assuming typical conditions) the lack of long descents.
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arv, could you PM me the quote? Idle curiosity at the moment, but interesting to look at.
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kitenski wrote:
rob@rar, the other thing I have noticed is lots of tree's not many big open bowls/faces like you can find in many European resorts for long off piste descents....

Agreed, although I think snow quality would make up for it (assuming typical conditions) the lack of long descents.


Playing devils advocate, and IIRC Mike and Elliots reports from the previous years they do get some time with rain/no new snow......
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rob@rar wrote:
Maybe next season if I can find two or three people to travel out with...

One thing which has struck me in these photos is the relative lack of very steep terrain (a good thing in my book). How does the terrain in Niseko compare to a typical Euro resort? Are there lots of steeps but they don't get into these photos, or is the terrain a bit gentler on average?


1) PM Spyderjon who's looking to put a few together wink

2) Loads more mellow offpiste than Euroland, loads more trees too and shorter pitches; but there are open bowls around and quality snow is as surefire as you can get. There are probably steep sections around, but I didn't go hunting for them. Embarassed
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kitenski wrote:
Playing devils advocate, and IIRC Mike and Elliots reports from the previous years they do get some time with rain/no new snow......


Of course. Same with all resorts though. You gratefully accept whatever the snowgods dole out. I think the odds of getting decent snow in Niseko are better than Europe if you look at the snow record, although I agree that past performance is no guarantee of future results.
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Mosha Marc wrote:
Elliot_Simcock, didn't you see the big "No Skiing" sign when you ducked the ropes under that chair?

Me neither wink


didn't duck any ropes, skied off the back of the chair lift. Joys of having a one day lift pass! Little Angel
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rob@rar, terrain is not a steep as Europe in general but there are some steep shorter pitches to be found if you know where to look.

as for flights i fly Cathay Pacific £520 return from Heathrow --> Hong Kong (3hr stop over) --> Sapporo (1hr 20mins from resort).


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Elliot_Simcock, thanks, and please keep posting photos and videos. You've almost got me arranging a trip ... Smile
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Elliot_Simcock wrote:
didn't duck any ropes, skied off the back of the chair lift. Joys of having a one day lift pass! Little Angel


Sorry, it looked like you were under chair "Downhill No 3" in that first vid you posted earlier today.

The parkies were after us there Shocked
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Mosha Marc, it was under the lift that connects the right and left side of Furano, yeah if we had got caught we would have been in a bit of trouble.
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Elliot
Furano looks rubbish Wink


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One thing which has struck me in these photos is the relative lack of very steep terrain (a good thing in my book). How does the terrain in Niseko compare to a typical Euro resort? Are there lots of steeps but they don't get into these photos, or is the terrain a bit gentler on average?


Most of the Hokkaido resorts are comparable to the lower lying Austrian and Bavarian resorts in my experience.

500-800m of vert, mostly treed, up to mid 30s in pitch, with the odd open bowl. There is steeper terrain - even in Niseko - but not for extended vert.

But because the snow is so light you don't need a steep pitch to ski the depth of snow that Hokkaido consistetly gets. In the past 4 winters that I've been living there / watching the season develop, the lowest annual snowfall has been 12.1m

Yes the resorts get rain. More than Vail, not as much as Whistler. But it normally lasts a day and within a couple of days you wouldn't know it had rained.

This season, the longest dry spell since mid-November has been 7 days.

There is more challenging skiing north of Niseko in Kurodake, Asahidake and Tokachidake.


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I'm not sure one trip to Japan would be better than 2 or 3 trips to Europe (complete guess on costs).......


I've skied a little in Europe, S America and NZ and extensively in the fabled powder resorts of Utah, Colorado, Montana, Washington and British Columbia and Hokkaido wins hands down in quality, quantity and consistency.

If you're looking for the best powder then head to Hokkaido.

If you're looking for great powder and steeps, then head to Nagano or Niigata.
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Mike Pow wrote:
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I'm not sure one trip to Japan would be better than 2 or 3 trips to Europe (complete guess on costs).......


I've skied a little in Europe, S America and NZ and extensively in the fabled powder resorts of Utah, Colorado, Montana, Washington and British Columbia and Hokkaido wins hands down in quality, quantity and consistency.

If you're looking for the best powder then head to Hokkaido.

If you're looking for great powder and steeps, then head to Nagano or Niigata.


no, no I am trying to convince myself I really don't need to go Wink
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