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FWIW I have yet to try a pair of women's skis that had any really decent performance. However my Zag Rouge's are targeted at smaller, lighter skiers (not women specific) and I've had plates put on them to stiffen them up a bit and also the bindings mounted 1cm further forward than the centre line. the difference is dramatic. OTOH my Fischer WC SCs are regular skis and I'm dead on centre with no problems. It seems to me that most women's skis are designed for people who want to ski gentle turns on gentle pistes and as soon as you put any pressure on them they cave. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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easiski, That's probably true. If you're a much stronger skier than average, then men's skis are more likely to be better suited. I just had a look at the ski stiffness chart Comprex linked to in an earlier thread and if you overlay the women's v men's equivalent models you can see there's a big difference. More advanced skis of the same type also tend to be stiffer too.
This one:-
http://www.friflyt.no/files/SFI_2008.pdf
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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easiski, next time I come to LDA, I'll give you my Volkls to try - would be interested to see if they change your opinion!
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Found the website for ski hire place I'm going to and it doesn't look as though they have chicks skis in my size so I'll be sticking to the unisex variety. Sounds like the best bet judging by comments on this thread. Thanks everyone...
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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When I looked at skihire in Oz-en-oisans they had Salomon X-wing tornados in best package(recommended on another thread) but in womans ski category they only had beginner and intermediate skis. I am 1.65m and 60 kgs and would have liked to try advanced allmountain womans skis , will still have a look when I get there, but for now booking mens skis.
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easiski, Try the Movement Black Rose on the next nice snowy day. Take which ever length you fancy trying. Not all womens skis are designed to disappoint.
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snowbunny, I don't think any women's skis are designed to disappoint. They're just designed for the average woman in the same way that men's skis are designed for the average man. The Black Rose is designed for advanced/expert women, so it shouldn't be much of a surprise if they enjoy it  But a 6' 5" 18 stone expert woman might just prefer the men's version of that ski.
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snowbunny, I don't think any women's skis are designed to disappoint. They're just designed for the average woman in the same way that men's skis are designed for the average man. The Black Rose is designed for advanced/expert women, so it shouldn't be much of a surprise if they enjoy it But a 6' 5" 18 stone expert woman might just prefer the men's version of that ski.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Interesting piece from the Volkl newsletter about the design of skis for women.
Apologies to Dr Eichhorn, I have just copied and pasted his 'letter' to fellow winter sports fans from the newsletter:
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Men are from Mars, women from Venus, or so the book claims. One thing is certain: when it comes to skiing, there are big differences between the sexes. But please don't misunderstand me: I'm not talking about who can ski better, but rather how the female anatomy responds more sensitively to specific stresses. One example: One out of two skiing injuries to women involve the knee joint. For men that figure is 'only' one in four. My experience as a doctor has only confirmed this point for me [Ed. note: Dr. Eichhorn performs more than 600 cruciate ligament reconstructions each year, as well as 1200 arthroscopic operations on the knee joint.]
In light of this, the question arises: is it possible to build a ski that helps prevent knee injuries - without compromising in athletic performance? Yes we can! Together with the designers at Völkl and the ladies from the Attiva team, we used computer simulations and extensive on-snow testing to develop the BIO-LOGIC CONCEPT: three technologies that provide world-class skiing fun and athleticism yet which at the same time dampen peak stresses. The strain on the knee joint is noticeably reduced through a more balanced and even loading of the leg musculature.
Precisely how the BIO LOGIC technologies work and the effects they have on the body can be seen in the article about the new ATTIVA models included below. But I will say this much now: you should look forward to winter 2009/10. |
The new Attiva range website included some interesting info on how and why the new skis for women have been designed how they have.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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skisimon, that's a load of marketing blurb. Show me an independent review which reaches the same conclusion after extensive testing and I might just about consider taking it seriously.
Meanwhile, I will stick to my 'unisex' skis, thanks.
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"The stiffness profile of the ski has been carefully harmonized with the features of Bio-Logic Geometry and Stance to create an energy-saving yet athletically high performance ski. The new flex characterist. "
That's marketing speak for "we've made it a bit softer". Still a valid thing to do for a lighter skier though, despite the BS
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You know it makes sense.
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Just food for thought people.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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skisimon, joking aside I believe there is some real science under the marketing talk. My wife really would not like my skis in the slightest. They'd be miles too stiff for her weight. If there were no women's skis she'd have to resort to a noodle soft beginner ski.
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