 Poster: A snowHead
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Can there be any space left on the Moral high ground ? 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I've got some space left for religious and/or political commentary.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Alexandra wrote: |
| It really does surprise me that most of you believe the "ignorant greedy froggies" to be the basis of your economic woes. |
Maybe I'm being dumb, but I can't see a lot of blame being aimed at "ignorant greedy froggies". Just a number of people describing how they are going to respond to the relative increase in prices of about 30% because of a lower value £ to the €. Can't see there much need to turn the discussion into nationality bashing.
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rob@rar,
I thought exactly the same!
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| Alexandra wrote: |
| It really does surprise me that most of you believe the "ignorant greedy froggies" to be the basis of your economic woes. |
Maybe I'm being dumb, but I can't see a lot of blame being aimed at "ignorant greedy froggies". Just a number of people describing how they are going to respond to the relative increase in prices of about 30% because of a lower value £ to the €. Can't see there much need to turn the discussion into nationality bashing. |
Really? I read quite a few "oh they'll have to drop their prices for us poor boohoo brits, it's not fair" At one point I closed my eyes and I was quite sure I could hear the sound of tiny fists beating upon the ground.
Edit: I'm British but thankfully have lived abroad long enough to be able to make sweeping statements which completely engulf the usual levels of ignorance shown by the British populus. I hope this helps clarify the matter.
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Alexandra, can you point that out? I see a lot of people saying, me included, that 'it will be more expensive this year, so this is what I'm going to do'. More matter of fact that blaming greedy tourist industry.
If you can hear tiny fists being beaten on the ground I suggest you have a look outside the window to see if there are naughty children out there 
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Alexandra,
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I'm British but thankfully have lived abroad long enough to be able to make sweeping statements which completely engulf the usual levels of ignorance shown by the British populus. I hope this helps clarify the matter.
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Your attitude is crystal clear, thanks.
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| Alexandra wrote: |
It really does surprise me that most of you believe the "ignorant greedy froggies" to be the basis of your economic woes. The French, Germans, Dutch, Austrians et al who ski les trois vallees this winter won't give a flying eff about your sterling. I for one get paid in europe, prices are slightly higher than normal - but I'm LOVING shopping in the UK. Thanks. 
Sterling is WEAK - why are the British so quick to blame outside influences? |
How many "Europes" are there to the pound?
Austrians in the ski industry are bothered about sterling as it affects their business. As France draws a much higher percentage of its ski business from the UK I'd say the French ski industry is also concerned.
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| PS - This is going to seem like nonsense to many, but did you know it's actually physically possible NOT to get blotted every night of your holiday and/or your every day life? That going 7 days without alcohol won't actually kill you? |
OK if we stop drinking will your lot stop going on strike every five minutes?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I been to Espace Killy before, and even though i earn my moneys in euros, I found the prices insane. Now there would be some justice if only they also offered quality, but no... clean lavatories... no. Lavatories from the 20th century... no. FREE lavatories for paying guests... no!
At those prices and quality I find picknicking in a "teleski dificile" (oh so very difficult poma) quite comfortable and pleasant 
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Will I be spending more £'s when I go to France this year (food/drink)? Maybe a little, but I'll pretty much stick to my original budget and just drink / eat more modestly, probably spend more time in the chalet and less in the bars.
Will the local bars/restaurants be getting less €'s from me ? Yes, almost certainly.
So I lose out on a bit of over indulgence and the locals will lose out in the pocket. There are no winners.
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| Alexandra wrote: |
| rob@rar wrote: |
| Alexandra wrote: |
| It really does surprise me that most of you believe the "ignorant greedy froggies" to be the basis of your economic woes. |
Maybe I'm being dumb, but I can't see a lot of blame being aimed at "ignorant greedy froggies". Just a number of people describing how they are going to respond to the relative increase in prices of about 30% because of a lower value £ to the €. Can't see there much need to turn the discussion into nationality bashing. |
Really? I read quite a few "oh they'll have to drop their prices for us poor boohoo brits, it's not fair" At one point I closed my eyes and I was quite sure I could hear the sound of tiny fists beating upon the ground.
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Perhaps you could point out even one of those "quite a few" then?
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Edit: I'm British but thankfully have lived abroad long enough to be able to make sweeping statements which completely engulf the usual levels of ignorance shown by the British populus. I hope this helps clarify the matter. |
I suspect that first sentence does not say what you actually intended to say.
But it does seem to be correct 
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You know it makes sense.
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stop getting so pished
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But then I'll realise what I've just paid for a meal  When I've had a few I just assume the bill is in Francs and divide by 10 like I always used to and come out feeling happy at how cheap it was.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Normally we are a group of 6ish, so all do a couple of meals each as a pair. i always stuff my luggage full of curry sauces, tacho kits etc so we can cook up a storm when in resorts so only need to buy the basics. Also do a big shop down in the Valley on the way up, its always way cheaper down there where the real people live!
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Alexandra wrote: |
| Edit: I'm British but thankfully have lived abroad long enough to be able to make sweeping statements which completely engulf the usual levels of ignorance shown by the British populus. |
I doubt you're missed...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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>> taking probably sugar, flour
Isn't that going over the top a bit? I don't know what it costs to drive a kilo of flour 1,000 miles, but I'd guess it's not nothing.
Likewise the coke; why not drink aqua tap?
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Lizzard, have you ever tried shopping in somewhere like Tignes - its outrageous.
PS nothing wrong with cooking kits - better than alot of awful french food you get in resort.
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nothing wrong with cooking kits
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Apart from the salt and fat levels, the chemical garbage and the price you mean?
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better than alot of awful french food you get in resort.
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You are a loony.
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I like salt and fat when I am skiing, need to replenish after a long day in the backcountry 
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The tourist industry in the Tarentaise mega resorts need a lesson. Euros or £, the prices are now insulting.
This frenchman says : hit them and hit them hard.
Now, cutting off the booze would be sensible too.
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philippeR, true. I did point out earlier that there is really no need to frequent the most expensive resorts you can find.
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Certainly when driving we always stop at Albertville to shop rather than in resort. If time, we also pop into Tesco's in Calais for a wine box or 6
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pam w,
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We buy rounds of drinks so cheaply in our sailing club that pub prices are always a shock
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I'm with you there...we can afford to be generous at the sailing club and buy large rounds...in a pub it's enough to make your eyes water.
Just out of interest and entirely off topic..which sailing club? I wonder if it's the same one...we're at ESSC.
With regards to spending less in the resort...I'm trying to be phelgmatic....at least I won't have to bash the brain cells trying to work out how much everything costs in pounds...a 1:1 exchange makes everything so much easier
I'm on holiday...I'm not going to winge about the cost of everything...if I was really worried I'd never get over the couple of k on a weeks holiday anyway...not when I compare it to what I could be spending it on....refurbing the house/boat/ or any number of things that will go on much longer than my week on the snow. But what price fun?
Hang the cost for tomorrow we may die.
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| Lizzard wrote: |
| philippeR, true. I did point out earlier that there is really no need to frequent the most expensive resorts you can find. |
So we're a bunch of middle-class moaners, unless we in in the mega-French resorts in which case we're justified in our complaints because we're getting ripped off? Just trying to work out when I should moan.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Its very simple if you are watching the pennies just eat and drink 30% less than last year
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| riverman wrote: |
| Its very simple if you are watching the pennies just eat and drink 30% less than last year |
That's right. No need for blame. If restauranteurs have massive margins they'll trim them a bit to maintain their customers, if not they will lose a bit of business. Isn't that the way the world works?
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You know it makes sense.
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| Its very simple if you are watching the pennies just eat and drink 30% less than last year |
Does this mean
a) only 13 pints a night or
b) only get totally bladdered 5 from 7 nights?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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DB, your Choice, or you could just make the total reduction in food intake and drink the same
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Poster: A snowHead
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I wonder if it's the same one...we're at ESSC.
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Snap.....
There are plenty of problems for French cafés and restaurants at the moment. They are certainly not coining it in. Many resort establishments are open for less than half the year (because there are no customers there the rest of the time). I now know, personally, the people who run two restaurants and one small shop in our resort - and they're struggling, though their prices are not fancy by any means. The shops generally have done badly for the last couple of seasons, it seems - there have been plenty of skiers (lift pass sales are up) but they are spending a lot less. Most - I'd guess over 90% of visitors to the resort - are French.
The fact that Brits have less to spend will obviously have more impact on the hyper Brit-infested resorts but it's a more general problem than that. Personally I hope that businesses in the resorts make enough profit to keep going; we'd all be stuffed without them.
And, as mentioned somewhere above, anyone who can afford to go on a ski holiday shouldn't moan too much. And I have zero sympathy with people whose idea of hardship is not being able to get off their faces at bar prices every night.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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pam w,
so I probably know you......perhaps we should wear some snowhead clothing next time in the bar to identify one another.....
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Alexandra wrote: |
| but did you know it's actually physically possible NOT to get blotted every night of your holiday and/or your every day life? That going 7 days without alcohol won't actually kill you? |
I find that comment a little offensive. Dont presume that all Brits' are like that on their holidays. I for one drink very little. Perhaps a bottle or two of wine a week at home and maybe a few Guiness on the odd night out.
I drink very little alcohol when away skiing anyway. I cant hack the hangovers. I wait a long 12 months each year for my week to the snow and wont risk lossing one day because Ive over done it on the drink the night before.
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Renry, you're in a minority there, I'm afraid.
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snowlamb, a ski helmet with a snowheads label? That should do the trick.
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| Lizzard wrote: |
| Renry, you're in a minority there, I'm afraid. |
Not that small a minority I'd say.
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| pam w wrote: |
| I hope that businesses in the resorts make enough profit to keep going; we'd all be stuffed without them. |
Nah, we'd be hungry without them
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Not all of us go away and get bladdered every night. We enjoy an aperitif , a bottle of wine with the meal, and maybe a digestif.. Not the case when we go away with a bunch of SnowHeads , drinks consumption definitley increases many times over
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I just don't like the sea france ferry over to Calais, 1.10 for a packet of crisps  .
My mum evan thinks that super markets are a bit expensive at the moment compared with British prices
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pam w,
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a ski helmet with a snowheads label? That should do the trick.
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Jenny already suspects my sanity...this would make up her mind for definate.
What boat do you have?
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