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Not Eating And Drinking In France?

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Anybody else out there horrified at the prospect of the cost of food and drink in the French Alps this winter, following the collapse of the £?

Things were always a bit pricey before this season anyway - but the current state of stirling just takes the biscuit.

We are off to the 3 valleys for new year and are already considering supermarket picnics in gondolas and thermos flasks of coffee - as opposed to simple (but extortionately priced) lunches in mountain retstaurants. £10 for soup and a coffee anyone?

And we daren't even think about alcohol when the £7 pint beckons... Shocked Looks like we could well be paying nearly £25 a head for a pizza and a pint....

Anyway, my point is whether or not other snowHead are thinking the same as me... And just how far will you all go before you say enough is enough? Are you drawing the line at £7 a pint?

Surely the current state of the pound will hit sales dramatically in places invaded by Brits and perhaps (wishful thinking) the greedy g**s who have screwed us for years may have to reconsider their pricing policy.

Then again a planned boycott may be just what we need!
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John Crawford, are you going catered or self-catering? I don't find the cost of self-catering too expensive, but eating out every meal would be prohibitive across the whole season.
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rob@rar, absolutely, and our trips out have been even more reduced now, as our two sons have decided they are coming with us rolling eyes .
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John Crawford wrote:
Are you drawing the line at £7 a pint?

Singapore, Norway - paid more than that for a beer.

Make sure you sip it Razz
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John Crawford wrote:
Are you drawing the line at £7 a pint?


Drink Leffee. You won't want a 2nd Confused
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Try paying for everything in AU$. You poms have had it good for to long wink
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Glad I am going catered and paid for, but lunch will be a much cheaper affair of picnic (and hoping for good weather to eat it). The problem with a near 1:1 exchange rate is that you do not have to try and work out the Sterling price, it is printed right in front of you, so you compare back to home. I will use the credit card and bury my head in the snow.....
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supermarket picnics in gondolas and thermos flasks of coffee


Yep seems good. Time spent in moutain restaurants is time lost skiing.
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More from the breakfast buffet and less for lunch for me.
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John Crawford, yes the inflated costs are on my mind to the point I'm planning to picnic lunches. I don't think you're alone on this one. Evil or Very Mad
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RobW wrote:

supermarket picnics in gondolas and thermos flasks of coffee


Yep seems good. Time spent in moutain restaurants is time lost skiing.
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John Crawford, Absolutely, I always used to frown when Europeans (i.e. not Brits if you know what i mean) pulled up to their apartment and have brought everything but the kitchen sink, but this year this will be me. I am having 10 days in Valloire over New Year and due to BA pulling the route I was to fly on I have decided to drive and I am now glad of it.

Mondeo Estate ski rack on the roof positioned to one one side with a borrowed skinny roof box on the other, I have stocked up on everything and I will have a large plug in chiller box in the boot full of fresh meats, dairy product's etc. Also taking stuff like cans of Coca Cola ( 25p at Tesco !!) and a few bottles of spirits, everything that I know is expensive in resort.

Yes we will of course be eating out probably every other night and will be having a few beers in the evening, but I will not be paying £100+ for lunch for the 4 of us out on the mountain, when we are virtually ski in/out. As mentioned above I always used to frown at this, as I believe that you should spend your money locally, but not this year. Things have gone too far, last year when I was in ADH on my boys trip I was paying 7euro a pint and it is exclusively the British who pay these prices. This year I cannot see that people will pay this, certainly not me anyway. As a consequence I will probably be in a better state to enjoy my skiing more, which is the only reason why I go in the first place.

I believe Valloire is much cheaper than my usual destinations 3V, Tignes etc, so I'll just see what it's like when I get there, but I am prepared.

BTW Can't wait


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I've always baulked at 3V prices - which is why I ski Austria!
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Kel,

about 30% cheaper than the 3Vs, usually 4.50 to 5 euro for a pint and 12 - 15 euro for lunch on the mountain.
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JimSearle wrote:
Kel,

about 30% cheaper than the 3Vs, usually 4.50 to 5 euro for a pint and 12 - 15 euro for lunch on the mountain.


Which makes it more or less the same price as 3V was last year, very pricey when you're paying for 4. Can't remember ever paying a fiver a pint in the UK. The major resort's will see till receipt's well down, they need to come into line, but I feel they are probably too stubborn that they won't.
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What about all night happy hour, that should do the trick Razz Razz
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Good timing for my first real holiday in the (French) Alps rolling eyes

Not in to long lunches (all about the skiing) so packing something in the morning will be the way I'm going. Extra hours skiing every day will do me the world of good, over the week it is pretty much a whole extra day if yu don't stop!
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When we stay in Val Thorens we usually return to the resort for lunch from one of the bakeries, and sit eating it in the appartment - much more civilised and cheaper than the mountain restaurants.
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Once again we'll be taking wine, coca cola, and English cheese with us as well as 2 cool boxes full of other essential Christmas items and for the first time ever it will be back to Montalbert for Lunch or take a picnic with us Confused
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Oh, do stop whinging you lot. Yes the pound has bombed - live with it.

Tips:
- stop going to the most expensive resorts you can find. It's more than possible to get pizza and beer for way less than 25€ a head.
- stop getting so pished - your body will thank you for it. Everyone else thinks your drinking behaviour is disgusting anyway.
- eat a big breakfast and take a sandwich. Be honest, it wouldn't do you any harm to eat less.

You are, for the most part, in work and able to splash money on blatant luxuries like ski holidays. There are certainly people out there who are seriously feeling the pinch and have reason to complain, but you are not amongst them. Not being able to afford to stuff yourself with tartiflette at a mountain restaurant does not constitute hardship.

*cue attack of the moaning middle classes* Laughing Laughing
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Lizzard, You wouldn't begrudge hard working mortgaged up to the hilt school fee paying pony food buying expensive car driving Chamonix experts their holiday now would you? Surely not Toofy Grin

OR all of the above Except we could follow the Prime Ministers lead and spend spend spend as normal and get into far deeper debt than before and for much longer. Madeye-Smiley
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Excellent post Lizzard
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Lizzard wrote:
being able to afford to stuff yourself with tartiflette at a mountain restaurant does not constitute hardship.

*cue attack of the moaning middle classes* Laughing Laughing


So True
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Lizzard, my behaviour won't change as a result of the pound bombing; I'll self-cater as I've done for a few years. Skiing 70-80 days a season it has never been sensible to eat out at tourist prices for every meal, even if I was visiting a cheaper resort than Les Arcs. Not that I'm complaining, but f restaurants in the Paradiski want to see more of my business they will need to offer more reasonably priced options amongst their menu items.

*cue attack of the customer is always right brigade* Wink
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I will use the credit card and bury my head in the snow.....

chrisb, you will find it takes ages to dig a big enough hole. Have you tried an avalanche shovel?

We've never spent much on meals and drinks out on the mountain or in bars in the evenings; they've always seemed expensive to me. Drinks at pub prices seem extortionate to me in the UK, too. We buy rounds of drinks so cheaply in our sailing club that pub prices are always a shock. But I'm certainly taking more groceries with me this year - including, for the first time ever, ground coffee. BOGOF in Tesco now far cheaper than the Géant. Some resorts have a picnic room where you can eat your sandwiches - they'll probably be full of British families this year. But picnicking in high winds and huge wind chill? No thanks. I'll just have a few mini Mars bars. I find if I have a big breakfast they'll get me through to tea-time.
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rob@rar, indeed. Though people who complain that restaurant prices are 'unreasonable' should consider the cost of rent, the expense involved in getting staff and supplies to the premises and the four-month season. They do not, for the most part, know what they are talking about. Laughing
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Lizzard, agreed. Equally restauranteurs should consider whether their prices are affordable for their regular clientele. The cost of getting a happy balance wrong is much more significant to the restauranteur.
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Lizzard, Whilst aggreeing with you , my arguement is shot down when resort prices (with clear roads daily deliveries etc) are similar to 'on mountain' prices with no roads food hauled up once or twice a week etc.
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It really does surprise me that most of you believe the "ignorant greedy froggies" to be the basis of your economic woes. The French, Germans, Dutch, Austrians et al who ski les trois vallees this winter won't give a flying eff about your sterling. I for one get paid in europe, prices are slightly higher than normal - but I'm LOVING shopping in the UK. Thanks. Razz

Sterling is WEAK - why are the British so quick to blame outside influences?

Edit: I think someone has made the schoolboy error of ordering a Leffe Bruin and not a Leffe Blonde.

PS - This is going to seem like nonsense to many, but did you know it's actually physically possible NOT to get blotted every night of your holiday and/or your every day life? That going 7 days without alcohol won't actually kill you?
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I'm hoping Italy in March won't be quite as expensive but I'll definitely have to curb any spending habits this season. Luckily I'm going catered so I can probably go without expensive mountain restaurant lunch, plus we get free wine with the meal so that will have to do for my alcohol consumpton. Other than that I'm taking €100 and that's it. No more. I'll be skiing and that's all that matters to me...
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Alexandra, hear hear. Cheap Christmas this year for me, so long as I use UK websites Wink

Certainly bars etc. that specialise mainly in a British clientele will lose out this year, but across the rest of the mountain, any drop in takings will be more because of a reduced number of people going skiing/boarding than because of people cutting back. Especially in those resorts where you can't conveniently ski back to your self catering apartment to cook a bowl of soup.
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I'll be buying my wine and food (where possible) down the valley this year. the cost of general items has certainly sneaked up in the resort Spar shops. Will use them for essentials that i run out of. The tow french resorts i am going to this year are not exactly wild apres, so will probably scurry back to apartment like the locals after a swift couple.
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Kel, you might wanrt to check what meat products etc your allowed to take over there before you buy it and stuff the chiller
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It is normally perfecltly ok to take meat products with you when travelling between EU countries for personal consumption according to Defra. Different if there was still a foot and mouth outbreak of course.
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However, despite a plug-in chiller, I will not be doing so, as I can't gurantee it to be kept at a proper temperature throughout the journey. I don't want food poisoning ruining my ski holiday.
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Bear in mind that any food that goes in the hold on a flight will freeze. I think it's about -30º in an aircraft hold. I took a big block of Red Leicester cheese to Sri Lanka and it took 2 days to defrost at tropical temperatures!!
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Went to Portugal 3 weeks ago and it was cheaper to drink in the Uk! My wallet got hit big time Crying or Very sad . Stock up with what you can and take it over with you, I have a funny feeling many people will be doing this.
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Self-catering has been our modus operandi for a number of years, and so it's easy to plan to have a biggish breakfast, a quick snack on the mountain (packed lunch is fine) and then drink and eat in most nights. When we're with a group, we quite often have as much 'craic' on nights in as we do on nights out.

The year I had a pre-booked Christmas ski trip and then no job for Oct-Jan, we took sandwiches up the mountain for lunch, and just stopped for a hot drink after lunch on cold days. We were blessed with good weather so it was fine, although we had to be careful not to dehydrate as fewer stops meant fewer drinks so we then carried drinks up with us too. It was fine and by no means affected our enjoyment of the holiday (noooo, but the DH fracturing his spine did though!).

This year we will probably eat out (at either lunch or dinner) about 4 times in a week, so on the odd really cold snowy days, we will eat in a mountain restaurant for lunch, and then have dinner in the apartment. If it's sunny all week, we will probably have our 'out' meals in the evenings.

FWIW, the prices I see reported from the big French resorts seem to be quite ridiculous. I've never paid that kind of price on our trips. A lot of the Austrian resorts are also real towns that people live and work in (and have done since before skiing came along) so prices in the supermarkets are no more expensive than anywhere else in the country.

Also agree with pam w that UK pub prices seem pretty expensive sometimes as well.

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I will be taking spices, coffee, tea, probably sugar, flour and other dried stuffs, which should considerably cut down on the shopping bill, and possibley some of the cleaning materials too.
I usually leave these available for my paying guests to use too, after all, who wants to cart all that stuff by plane, or buy a jar of herbs just to use a teaspoonful.
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Alexandra wrote:
......did you know it's actually physically possible NOT to get blotted every night of your holiday and/or your every day life? That going 7 days without alcohol won't actually kill you?


Have you checked your facts carefully? Shocked
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