 Poster: A snowHead
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| fatbob wrote: |
My view is that there is no real need to wear "punter kit" if for the same price you can buy decent stuff. I have a Patagucci jacket for walking & commuting that cost under £50 and recently have seen very respectable Marmot kit in TKmaxx for around the same price.
Nothing wrong with Regatta, dare2be etc but looking at design quality & you needn't necessarily pay much more for something that functions better. Besides if I was going to buy their kit I'd just as soon buy better designed Decathlon stuff for the same price. |
Which is totally the point I was making until the 'Millet Muppets' piled in. 
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Arno,  obvious which camp you're in then...
So then, in summary. blokes like 'technical' kit cos they're nerds, and girls like either pretty colours or practicality depanding on whether they're Princess Di or Princess Anne.
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red 27, generally I only care about what I am wearing, although I reserve the right to laugh at people in 80s f@rtbags, novelty hats, inappropriate catsuits and things with too much fur 
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| Arno wrote: |
| red 27, generally I only care about what I am wearing, although I reserve the right to laugh at people in 80s f@rtbags, novelty hats, inappropriate catsuits and things with too much fur |
Absolutely! Generally I don't even notice what make jacket other people are wearing. Sometimes I'll spot what looks like a well-made jacket (a woman in my group last year had a Kjus jacket which did look eye-wateringly expensive) but otherwise as long as I'm warm, it's all good.
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This is just such a larf. The OP just asked for advice about a really cheap jacket which would keep him warm in normal sort of mountain conditions, not hard core.
It's lovable, really, how people think that merely buying the "right" jacket qualifies them to think of themselves as NAP (Not a Punter). They're helping to keep the economy afloat, so it can't be all bad.
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Are punters not allowed to wear the "right" jacket? Or to understand what the differences are between different types of jacket? Or to prefer jackets which happen to be expensive just because they're not hardcore skiers?
Maybe I should eBay my ski wardrobe and pay a visit to TKMaxx... 
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| pam w wrote: |
| This is just such a larf. |
No flies on you 
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| pam w wrote: |
It's lovable, really, how people think that merely buying the "right" jacket qualifies them to think of themselves as NAP (Not a Punter). |
Yeah, I always think like that 
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Don't forget the easiest way to be NAP is to cover whatever you have with copious duct tape -if it covers the logo so much the better "it's cos the stiching was letting in water dude". Oh & stick a whistle on your zip
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You know it makes sense.
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My view is that there is no real need to wear "punter kit" if for the same price you can buy decent stuff.
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I rest my case. I didn't suggest that everyone thinks like that.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| pam w wrote: |
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My view is that there is no real need to wear "punter kit" if for the same price you can buy decent stuff.
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I rest my case. I didn't suggest that everyone thinks like that. |
I think we may be at x purposes... I had simply adopted the prevailing vernacular. Ultimately no-one gives a stuff what anyone else wears unless its an amusing fartbag, but you can have a fair stab at whether someone will be a semi respectable skier by checking out what they are wearing, notably newness and shininess above brand. If they spend a reasonable amount on kit or are adept at picking out good stuff on the cheap & wear it hard chances are they are more than a 6 days a year holiday skier. Much like the carrying skis thread a while back. You might not like the stereotyping aspect based on something as trivial as gear but everyone does it all the tme in all areas of life.
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What a bunch of tossers the lot of you. Pity the poor OPer who only wanted a bit of advice about a jacket
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but you can have a fair stab at whether someone will be a semi respectable skier by checking out what they are wearing, notably newness and shininess above brand.
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F'in load o shoite 
IMV it's only the brits and yanks who are obsessive about gear. Next time you're in a gondola, on a chair, in a lift queue, take a look at the other european nations wearing brands that most of the Brits have never heard of (I'll wager). Do they look cold, wet, sweaty just coz it's not Spyder, Schoffel, or other over-priced "technical" kak.
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So as I said before do I confound the argument here, only able to afford the cheap brands yet, skiing this season in a top brand outfit that I was gifted?
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Megamum, Can't say I've ever noticed what anyone's wearing, perhaps with the exception of someone I saw in Vallandry last year wearing a black bin bag, apparently they don't breath too well .
No, Thats cool.
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Megamum, we get it your received a gift!!! Tend to buy what I like the look of, if it says Dare2Be on it, I just don't like how it looks
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| halfhand wrote: |
IMV it's only the brits and yanks who are obsessive about gear.......... |
Not skied in Italy then?.
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| halfhand wrote: |
What a bunch of tossers the lot of you. Pity the poor OPer who only wanted a bit of advice about a jacket
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but you can have a fair stab at whether someone will be a semi respectable skier by checking out what they are wearing, notably newness and shininess above brand.
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F'in load o shoite
IMV it's only the brits and yanks who are obsessive about gear. Next time you're in a gondola, on a chair, in a lift queue, take a look at the other european nations wearing brands that most of the Brits have never heard of (I'll wager). Do they look cold, wet, sweaty just coz it's not Spyder, Schoffel, or other over-priced "technical" kak. |
That's a load of stereotyping old shoite too.
Best advice I've heard for the OP is to look out for heavily discounted quality brands. Despite the wave of reverse snobbery, much of the "over-priced technical kak" is actually very efficient and very durable. One tip is that mountaineering jackets are often cheaper, tougher and technically better than equivalent "ski" jackets.
Or you could take the alternative advice of buying any random cheap old tat and pretend it's just as good.
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I'm not sure what's fueling this debate? Are there a few 'hand grenade throwers' here that wish that they were currently in Greece. It can't be boarders, they love a label or two.
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wow, I've not been on here over the weekend and my post seems to have taken off quite a bit in the mean time! Thanks for all the advice (inbetween all the arguments!). I think I'll be heading to TKMaxx when I'm back in the UK and get a jacket with a good fit and with the best tech. spec. that is within my price range (regardless of whether it's dare2b or whatever other label )
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I buy everything I own on eBay. (virtually!). But I do not touch branded goods on eBay. There are so many fakes around - and even second hand, unless it comes with the original receipt from Snow & rock (or wherever) it's probably fake too.
TKMaxx is the place to go, but you might have to go several times. I picked up a pair of goretex ski trousers v. cheaply the other week - beat my waterproof leggings that I've worn the last couple of years.
The only thing IMO a jacket needs to be (apart from obviously waterproof) is breathable. Was bought a D2B non-breathable one for my first skiing trip by g/f, and it reminded me of non-breathable cagoules I had as a child. Ugh, ugh, ugh ugh ugh.... She bought herself an equivalent breathable one which she was very pleased with, and she's a ski-snob.
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You know it makes sense.
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| the ice perv wrote: |
| Am I a "Millet Muppet" as well? I do hope so. |
MilletS. Millet is a French (?) skiwear company that is not in the budget category.
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horizon, Thanks for that... May I enquire what brand of tape is popular with the cognesenti in Verbs this season? As I recall from last year I don't think TK-Max had a branch yet
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horizon, My recently retired jacket (bought at Super Soccer Sports the emporium of all that is chavtastic) was ultimately more duct tape than original fabric in certain areas - it was only the zips going that finally did for it. I prefer to think that it made me look not a punter - more like a vagrant.
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red 27, don't know but I can tell you that the black one supplied by Parlor fell off, whereas my highly visible silver one is still hanging on.
the Incog-non-sentient 
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red 27
I for one would not buy cheap "gaffer" tape.
You need top quality "Duct" tape, at least 12 mils of adhesive, three layers and around 58 pounds per square inch tensile strength.
tux
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i saw some dare2be jackets in TK Maxx.
Now, i am not totally concerned with logo's usually.. but Dare2be just look cr@p .... the jacked was fine and prob would have got if there was no logo, the name is just a naff name IMO .
I got a different brown jacket that i cannot even remember the make right now.
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There is an alternative - get matey with an importer of a 'quality' brand, and get loads of kit off him for the price of a few beers....
So far 2 pairs of K2 ski's with Marker bindings (including 1x pair of Dukes), Couple of pairs of Marmot Bibs, plus assorted gillets, midlayers, etc etc. Estimated retail value? Certainly in excess of a grand - cost to me? Considerably less than that (about £200)
I look like Jack the frickin' biscuit when I go out
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I think all the people getting uptight on here should, as punishment, have to read the "Tall-T" thread on TGR from start to finish
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Arno, Punishment? Any thread that spawns a tshirt has to be a good one.... right?!
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arv, that's as maybe but the t-shirt concerned:
1. was cotton so *gasp* would not wick efficiently
2. was knee length so *shudder* would restrict movement
3. possibly cost more than one available at TK Maxx and
4. WAS WORN WITH THE EXPRESS INTENTION OF LOOKING COOL
thereby potentially p155ing off almost everyone on this thread!! 
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Arno,
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FAQ
I have provoked a fatwa! A vendetta! The hardcore brethren are after me! Help fellow punters, help!
Am I a "Millet Muppet" as well? I do hope so. Or maybe a "TK Maxx Tw@t"? Or a "Blacks B'stard"? 
