| What do you wear on your head whilst skiing/boarding? |
| Wouldn't catch me on the slopes without a helmet |
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63% |
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| I'll wear one when the going gets tough or I need to set an example, but not all the time |
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| Think of me as thix (thixotrophic that is!!). Gel based protection here (or similar) |
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| Beany there and done it - can't beat a warm woolly beany |
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| Real skiers/boarders do it unprotected from the elements - that's me! |
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| I'm thinking about it (while I still have a brain) |
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 Poster: A snowHead
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I think helmets are fine if you're doing some serious off-piste but on piste i feel they just have the effect of making people feel they are safer than they are and skiing more recklessly .. a bit like the fact the 4x4's altho' safer in an accident are actually involved in a higher percentage of accidents.
I was in Saalbach a couple of weekends ago on a steepish, crowded, icy piste and when i was very nearly taken out from behind by a guy skiing way too fast for the conditions .. he had some fast carving skis and was wearing a helmet and all the gear but he was no where near as good as he thought and it was only luck he only caught me a glancing blow instead of a full on impact ... would he have been skiing so dangerously if he didn't think he was so well protected ??
I think he might have been English as he apologised in a decent accent after i chased and him and gave him some abuse ... short guy, wearing dark/black kit with a grey beard .. if you're on here mate .. get some lessons rather than all the kit !!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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RichA, I have to say I have seen this analysis a few times on here (not just from you so this isn't a personal attack!) and I don't really understand it. People don't say the same thing about cyclists or horse-riders who wear helmets. There are prats in every walk of life, those who think they're better than they are, attempt more than they should, or don't bother to try and get to grips with something that would make them better/safer at what they do.
However, I don't get that skiing prats become more dangerous in helmets than they were without. Prats are prats, they're sometimes dangerous. I don't really think helmets have anything to do with that.
I rode horses for about 17 years, and never felt that wearing a hard hat let me ride more dangerously. I was brought up knowing it could at times be a dangerous sport, and therefore a hard hat was worn. Similarly, I don't think my H rides his mountain bike more recklessly now he wears a helmet. He has just assessed that there is at any time a risk of a fall and he wants to take steps to try and limit the harm he might come to.
I don't see why helmet-wearing skiers are any different TBH, it is a choice an individual has made. I don't think that helmet-wearing prats are indicative of a trend of skiers becoming more prattish when they start wearing helmets.
Not a personal attack by the way, I have just read this a few times and have never understood it  .
Happy sliding, with or without a helmet  !
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Voted for no.1 but thats my own personal choice and I would never judge anyone for their decision to use one or not. But now when it comes to the outfit choice ... that's whole different ball game
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thefatcontroller, Isn't the 10 year old a bit big for a backpack?
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thefatcontroller, 
Why oh why does peoples sense of dignity leave them when they hit the slope
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Interesting... we seem to have much higher use than I see on the slopes. Or the non users are just fed up with the topic.
On Saturday, skiing very fast through big trees with sometimes split second decisions on which gaps to go for - found myself thinking .... should I have a helmet on?
PS Didn't get the thixotrophic one...am I thix?
Last edited by After all it is free  on Wed 30-01-08 14:41; edited 3 times in total
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thefatcontroller, firewall has blocked it so will have to see the offending article when i get home. Hope it lives up to expectations 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Dont wear one, Although I'm considering it.
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You know it makes sense.
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Have recently started wearing one after getting into freestyle. If I was just cruising around on-piste I wouldn't bother.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Are the above comments about helmets or all-in-one fartbags?
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Poster: A snowHead
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DB, yes sorry  slight deviation off topic after a comment I made
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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DB, it did read like that didnt it
I blame the FatController for the suit diversion
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Deliaskis, no offence taken and I hope none (about to be) given.
I think you're assuming eveyone is like you and fairly sensible. I'm not saying everyone turns crazy when they don a helmet but there undoubtedly a number out there who do use them as a fashion/cool accessory and think if they're wearing helmets and body armour they must be s*** hot skiers when they're not. I actually know people like this and always make sure they're in front of me. There is also the issue of losing peripheral vision and therefore be coming more dangerous to others.
On a separate note, it'd be interesting to know what percentage of people are hospitalised as a result of skiing accidents have hurt their head .. I've been skiing almost 20 years and don't remember ever hearing of anyone doing so ... are less people hurt these days now that helmets have become fashionable ?? .. I doubt it.
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| RichA wrote: |
On a separate note, it'd be interesting to know what percentage of people are hospitalised as a result of skiing accidents have hurt their head .. I've been skiing almost 20 years and don't remember ever hearing of anyone doing so ... are less people hurt these days now that helmets have become fashionable ?? .. I doubt it. |
I suffered concussion an eye injury and seven stitches when I fell whilst not wearing a helmet.
To quote from ski-injury.com:
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| If you look at the incidence of head injuries on the slopes, most studies show that the overall incidence is about 10-20% of all injuries. Put another way, for every 10,000 people on the slopes on any particular day, no more than three people will sustain a head injury requiring medical attention. Fortunately, of all these people with head injuries, the majority (90%) of the injuries are minor - i.e. cuts, abrasions, and minor bumps. That leaves the remaining 10% having what's known in the business as a Potentially Serious Head Injury - hereafter known as a PSHI. This class of injury includes (suspected) skull fractures, all episodes of unconsciousness and major open head wounds (including penetrating injuries) - all rather nasty. |
The rest of the article is well worth a read.
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Sage, would you have had the same or similar injury wearing a helmet though? I remember talking to a university lad (on my second ever trip) who had a broken cheek bone and black eye caused by a low flying boarder, and when I suggested a helmet might have protected him, his reply was that he had one on at the time he was hit  it is possible the inside/front edge of the helmet acted in a way to catch/deflect/direct the board in to the face whereas without one the board might had just skidded across the face
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Only when tucked up in bed!
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mark_s, I meant the sitting down bit (not the middle of the piste bit), never seen many skiers as chilled as you look
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rayscoops, I've thought about that and I don't think it would have been as bad - if I had been wearing one, the top of the helmet would have hit the snow first instead of my face, my sunglasses caused the cut and eye injury. It might also have helped the concussion.
It was years after that incident that I started wearing a helmet, though.
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You know it makes sense.
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I always wear mine, it's very comfortable. I don't mind what anyone else does really, it's their business - if you really don't like it and it spoils your fun then fine, don't bother! No skin off my nose. I also have a tiny pin-like head so I think I look better with one
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rayscoops, It is also possibl that without the helmet, he would have been hurt even more.
RichA, If you look at the thread titled something likle "please, please wear a helmet" you will find reference to a recent head injury involving hospitalisation of icogskino's son.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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My mum wouldn't let me ski if I didn't wear one.
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| Megamum wrote: |
| B.t.w. I don't think the poll is biased in either direction. There are only 2 answers out of 5 that real hard hat wearers can pick. |
But the wording of those "un-biased" answers are clearly biased.
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| Also, I think the silent majority are voting - there are more votes cast than snowheads who have added to this thread. I would have thought that reverse psycology would apply to the non-helmet wearers and if they read a poll where they were losing that this might encourage them vote - the fact remains that helmet wearing is still the most popular choice amongst Snowheads who have bothered to vote here. |
That's just a load of assumption to justify something that aren't! You "assume" everyone thinks like you ("reverse psychology")? Have you heard of "non-participation"? Maybe the non-helmet wearers don't want to be used as fake data of a pre-conceived study?
I didn't vote because I HATE the implication. I wear one NOT because I believe ANY of your "safety motivations". BTW, I would have voted on the "occasional" (neutral) and wouldn't have added any weight on either side.
Not having any vested interest in the outcome, I still find the poll biased.
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abc, Its hardly a MORI poll is it !!!! I don't think Europe is going to make legistlation from this
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DebbiDoesSnow, it's true it's not a serious poll. But it's clearly biased. Though that is quite fine for snowheads.
But magamum actually believe it's NOT biased. Hence her defense of her choice of answers. I found that a bit self-cerntered.
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abc, I have to agree that the questions didnt cover all the options but it would takes a Fence Sitter to come up with unbiased questions and there ain't many of them on here 
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FAQ
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. I left my helmet at home for the last trip becasue I could not fit it in my bag and neither felt safer nor in more danger without it, if anything I was slightly more cautious in how I approached my riding.
