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Goto channel 403 freeview, some skiing on there 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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rob@rar, What r u trying to say about Snooker its life on the edge ..... well edge of unconsciousness anyhow.
If the crash never happened I wouldn't wish it to just so that I could feel entertained but ingeneral crashes are very entertaining, especially the guy in the yellow who did about 25 cartwheels down the slope.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Dunny#1 wrote: |
| Goto channel 403 freeview, some skiing on there |
Can't Fiancee has the period drama on now!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I thought it looked horrible, but I loved hearing about the racer's attitude to crashes, it was informative and interesting.
Bode Miller's surfing run was outstanding, to me.
Downhill racing looks like stuff of nightmares, scaring yourself silly, ya know...
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To be honest I didn't think it was too bad. OK so it was hugely over-produced ,as is usual with the BBC these days, and the picture quality of the downhil was appalling but all-in-all beggars can't be choosers and at least there is some skiing on the BBC. Why is, though, that they have to reduce everything on the BBC to "Light entertainment" nowadays? Is it beyond the comprehension of the legions of graduate production teams infesting the BBC these days that there might, actually, be people out there who are interested in a decent "Skiing" programme rather than a celebrity chef doing a snowplough?
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plectrum, Todd Brooker, 1987.
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Dunny#1, I am not saying its down to a right or wrong. Rob doesn't like crashes and I understand and appreciate that. I guess it is a bit like boxing ... very dangerous sport many develop brain damage later in life but I find it entertaining.
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I can't believe I was reading a book throughout all but a few minutes of Ski Sunday! I share the distaste for concentrating on crashes in downhills, but even if you do enjoy that sort of thing, what about all the other competitive skiing that has been going on? Why no coverage of that?
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Crap programme - just not enough skiing. If I want to watch a travelogue there are plenty other channels and programmes- where it's done much better ie Coast The travel programme, African diaries - but why the alps in the summer on a skiing programme. As far as discussion on crashes; Far too much time spent on it. I'd rather have more footage of the racing than the crashing. Just a bit weird, Could be some bright Tristram of a producer is chasing ratings!!
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Caught the last 30 minutes, much better than SS used to be. Might series link it. The title of the programme is "ski sunday" not "ski racing sunday" and isn't there more stuff from the races visible when when you "press the red button"? The crashes are horrendous but they highlight how racers are from a different planet from you and I.
The Siberian segment captured some of the strangeness of skiing/boarding and was good IMHO.
The trouble with a lot of the FIS ski races is that they are just boring to watch. A bit like the difference between watching a mountain stage and a time trial in the TdF. And there isn't even the prospect they will catch the skier behind. Kudos to the BBC for realising this and diversifying.
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You know it makes sense.
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ccl - red buton then blue one - there's a proper ski sunday on there.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Calling it "SKI" Sunday was a bit of a misnomer. If I wanted to watch people hill walking I'd look for a programme about hill walking!!!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Brian T, ccl, Completely agree ... AND contrary to how I am perceived in this thread, I would quite happily of traded all the crash footage for 60 minutes of racing. What about Friday's GS as well as more than 5 riders being featured on the downhill.
Has anyone here actually been in a big resort for a Downhill WC event it looks amazing.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| plectrum wrote: |
| I guess it is a bit like boxing ... very dangerous sport many develop brain damage later in life but I find it entertaining. |
Is it the boxing you like, or the rare occasions when a boxer ends up in a coma because it's all gone terribly wrong? Do you like to watch that in slow motion as well?
Yes, crashing is a part of ski racing and it should be covered by the media as such. But it's not the highlight of the sport. Ski Sunday got it badly wrong in their coverage today and I would rather have seen them forgo it altogether than pander to the lowest common denominator by looping the most horrific crashes they have in their video library. All the more shameful that it was fronted by an ex-racer. Ditto for snowHeads who seem to find it entertaining and think that those people who find it distasteful are wimps of some kind. All IMO of course.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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plectrum,
Yes, at Lake Louise. Glad I went, but not that thrilling as it takes ages and you can only see one part of the course. Lake Louise is a cold place for sitting on your ass for a few hours!!!
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| plectrum wrote: |
| Has anyone here actually been in a big resort for a Downhill WC event it looks amazing. |
Yes, and it is amazing. But a bit sickening when a racer crashes.
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| stoatsbrother wrote: |
The trouble with a lot of the FIS ski races is that they are just boring to watch. A bit like the difference between watching a mountain stage and a time trial in the TdF. And there isn't even the prospect they will catch the skier behind. Kudos to the BBC for realising this and diversifying. |
Depends if you actually like skiing or cycling as most TdF fans find a TT fascinating as they do a Mountain stage it is the flats that are average but French television coverage is always brilliant with a perfect balance between travel/country documentary and edgy race coverage.
The coverage of the Siberain segment was lazy and boring. Where actually was he.... Siberia is a pretty big place? What are the attributes of the mountain, how steep, how high, level of skiing etc? Who cares about seeing him on a train eating an orange!
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rob@rar, Fully agree that I would have preferred no crash coverage and more skiing! It is Eurosport time!
The best fight I have ever watched .... ever .... was Nigel Benn vs Gerald McClellan, a titanic encounter. The otucome though was unfortunate and upsetting. This is the paradox of extreme sports. There is a difference between wanting a ski racer to crash or wanting a boxer to be hurt and enjoying a knock out or a flip tumble and crash, when it happens
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Have they been watching too much Top gear? Celebrity racing, big journeys, Top Gear camera angles and same style music. I think the egos have landed. Graham & Ed "What I did on my holidays" pieces belong elsewhere - why that and not the men's SL or anything of the ladies from Cortina. And all that stuff about the Trans Siberian Express! There is no such thing (ask a Russian). Loads of train lines cross Russia. He got on a train! Big deal. Graham does Michael Palin but I prefer Palin. I'll still watch it tho'.
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plectrum, used to be a time triallist myself actually. Fun to watch out on the road. Less so on TV except for Team TTs. I also used to play Jazz - another activity that is better to take part in than watch 
If you want nothing but details about the resort use Google. This was trying to convey the atmosphere and colour. I think they did well. This is aimed at a generalist audience.
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Bode Swiller, plectrum, rob@rar,
Folks,
How many people in the UK are into ski racing? I guess very few.
How many people in the UK go skiing as a holiday? Loads
Personally, I found this much more entertaing than an hour of blokes in Lyrica going down the same bit of mountain. If I ever go to Kitzbuhel during downhill it will be as much for the atmosphere as for the actual race.
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stoatsbrother, I really like the TT's this year's TdF was no difference and the downhill slips in the rain made it more exciting! More because of how it affected the General Classification rather than for the falls tho....
Also I am not sure it should be for a generalist audience. It is Ski Sunday it should be for avid ski fans! I'll await MOTD2 .... 13 mins of football and 20 mins of the history of Bolton or what Kevin Keegan had for breakfast ... I don't think so!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I don't mind the switch to a Top Gear style given that they have very few broadcast rights for WC racing. It would be nice if it became as entertaining as Top Gear, even if it covered no racing whatsoever. I think it's good to show more than just racing - for that there's Ch 4 and Eurosport.
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johnboy, I'll see you on the slopes in Siberia .... oh and if without googling you can actually remember where in Siberia that resort was at or what it was called I'll buy you a pint.
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You know it makes sense.
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| stoatsbrother wrote: |
The trouble with a lot of the FIS ski races is that they are just boring to watch. A bit like the difference between watching a mountain stage and a time trial in the TdF. And there isn't even the prospect they will catch the skier behind. Kudos to the BBC for realising this and diversifying. |
Disagree - I watch motor-racing to see the best in the world attaining at a level I can only dream of. Exactly the same for skiing. Totally fascinating, the skill levels, bravado and etc these guys have. There was virtually none of that on ski sunday and what little there was had a picture quality that looked like it was all downloaded from youtube.
If they want to diversify, call it 'A general interest programme linked snow-sports, travel and celebrities', and give us back ski sunday proper............ imagine watching MoTD containing nothing but interviews with supporters, linked by the occaisional 2 minutes of matchplay - thats about what we got on ski sunday tonight.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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plectrum,
I don't really care where in Siberia it is. All I want is an hour showing snow and mountains.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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johnboy, But you didnt get that!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Interesting the difference between the overall view on this thread, and the one about the same programme in the AZ... 
johnboy, me too...
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stoatsbrother, Whats the AZ?
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plectrum,
Well, I was still happy with the overall content
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If I wanted to watch a programme about the racing I'd go to Eurosport.
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plectrum, you wouldn't like it. The people are not skiing there.
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cathy, stoatsbrother, johnboy, but you didn't get much snow, mountains and boarding/skiing. It was faff, faff and more faff.
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| stoatsbrother wrote: |
| plectrum, you wouldn't like it. The people are not skiing there. |
Wow so friendly and polite 
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FAQ
I thought the whole hour was very watchable, although I must admit the travelling by train to Siberia went on and on and on.....I wanted to say - just get the plane there for god's sake! 
