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gryphea,

Hi ... which ski companies childcare did you use .... thinking of taking and 3yr old and 4 yr old for the 1st time but want recommended ski school/ day care ....

thanks
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dtol,

Well we went with Family ski company who were excellent. Ski school helper made all the difference for our 4 yr old. Childcare was good and both 4 yr old and 2 yr old were very happy with it. Have heard esprit are good too- but I am unhappy about coaches without seatbelts so we have never been with them

Lucy
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notverygoodatskiing, Will be open if its cold enough!
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Well I'm back from La Plagne, great resort, but don't go if you want apres ski.

Conditions were amazing at the beginning of the week, but the sun ruined it at the end of the week, with really bad ice

If you were there last week did you see a guy in a superman outfit?
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Verns,where is the best place for a good pint?glad the resort is good,only a couple of weeks to go and hopefully some fresh snow on the way.
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Well there only seems to be restaurants in Belle Plagne where I stayed, but in Plagne Centre there are loads of pubs, think there is one called scotties thats at the bottom of the night slope in La Plagne and there seems to be lots of english there, if thats your scene.

but apres ski is rubbish, but it was good becuase we made it to the slopes at 9 everyday, well walked out of the front of our hotel and we were on a slope, lol
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vernz1983, Its called Soleil- its run by Mark Warner. DIdnt you go to Saloon? or hte dutch bar?
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im going to belle so thats good for me,not to bothered about late nights really,its good to be out there early,i leave the late nights for summer holidays,was the bobsleigh open?
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vernz1983,

I did see a superman I think (unless I am muddled with year before?) Was that you????

Saw z list celeb in les arcs too!
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gryphea, thanks for the reports. Which chalet did you stay in?
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skanky, we are going on the same week as each other,what are the chances of us getting good conditions?
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notverygoodatskiing, I'd put money on them being better than current (though the weather may not be great all week). Too far to know how much though.
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skanky, something is better than nothing,lets hope for a great week,are the charts/graphs/thing with lines on it still doing the right thing?
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notverygoodatskiing, yeah and it ranges from "better than now" to "superb!". However, we may be skiing in bad weather for a few days....well tish.
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skanky, bad weather being loads of snow?
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notverygoodatskiing, possibly. Or rain. Or just lots of wind and cloud. It's too far for details, but the ensembles are showing a reasonably strong preference for colder, wetter weather. That could change, but it looks very likely that there will have been fresh snow between now and then, which will improve things at least.

This is the latest rainfall/snowfall forecast for the Sunday: http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3124.png and here's the wind: http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn31212.png

Those are far less likely to be right than wrong, but if the general synopsis were to be right it could be similar weather. It's worth noting that on the endemble chart, the operational run is an outlier on that day for precipitation & pressure - so the temperature agreement is probably for the wrong reasons.
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skanky, am i right in thinking it says about 5mm of rain or 5cm's snow for lp area?
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notverygoodatskiing, that's in the previous 6 hours. Ignore that side of it. You'd need to add up the amounts from each chart to get a total, and GFS is not great at getting the actual totals correct at 24 hours, let alone two weeks. It's the presence of it that's important at the moment.

I think this is La Plagne: http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/MS_645_ens.png
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skanky, i can honestly say i dont know what that means,is that a good looking chart
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notverygoodatskiing, the upper set of lines generally below the red line = good. The bottom set of lines generally showing "spikes" = good. Better would be the previous two, but with the lines less spread out and closer to the grey line. See "Beginners guide to GFS" sticky at the top of the forum for more details.
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skanky,

we stayed in Upper David, Family ski company, les coches. Chalet was OK, position fantastic, never quite had such an on the piste location, nice hot tub too

Lucy
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vernz1983, Glad you had a good time matey.

I 'frequented' Saloon Bar in Belle Plagne... oh my god, it was like a French version of Walkabout. Horrendous was the only word to describe!!! The beer was something like €30 for five beers and they wanted to charge us €2 each to drop our coats in!!! We politely told them 'no' and the waved that charge... how nice of them!!!

Went to the one next to the large SPAR (the one lke a little cavern) and that was much better. Saw two dudes playing guitar and flute who were good but one was cocky as hell! Think we offended him when we asked if he was American (he turned out to be Canadian) before we all started chugging away on Gaullioses and Gitanes!!!! The beer was rough (Amstel is my second leat favourite beer behind standard Kronenbourg) but it was a nice atmosphere... albeit a very smokey one - Oooops!

Thought the food optiosn werea bit pants though. Le Clocke did good food (the pasta was awesome), alkthoygh I'm not so sure about pepperoni pizza with a fried egg and bolognese sauce on top!!!

The restaurant near the cable car (where the ESF instructors meet) was well expensive and the menue was a bit devoid of variety. The food was nice though. La Face Nord was okay too (cheapest Fondue in town at €15 each).

Went to Plagne Centre for a few beers and ate in this really nice little place in the shopping centre (the fascia is all wooden and there's more salami inside than furniture!!) before going to Bar Luna (?), which had a clubby atmosphere and wasn't that expensive to drink at (cocktails were €6).

Basically, don't expect 'Magaluf in the Alps' if you go to belle Plagne. It's easy to get around using the cable car and the bus service from Plagne Bellecote to Plagne Centre but get stocked up on crates of Kroney fom the SPAR (26 stubbies for about £Cool and you'll be orted for a wee wee-up on the night in your accomodation.

DON'T, however desperate you are, buy bottles of the cider because you think it's a cheap way to get mashed - there's Casino cider or this stuff called Kerky, both of which taste like melted down cider ice lollies with Meths added to it. It's evil stuff

I could go on forever about my holiday (but I won't) Very Happy I will say that for me as a beginner, it was an awesome place that has well and truly got me hooked on boarding... roll on the end of March when I'm going back snowHead snowHead snowHead
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Specialman, glad you enjoyed yourself,im like a little child at the moment,all excited and annoying everyone at work talking about snow,im out on the 27th and the weather is starting to look good at last,did you try anything such as skiidoing?
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I've done skidooing there. Parapente available for the fearless and for the psychos- mono bob sleigh
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i really want to go on the mono bob,just hope its open,i nearly had a go at skidoing but i broke my arm about an hour before i was meant to be going on,bummer or what,and they kept my money Mad this time im going on what ever i break Smile
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notverygoodatskiing, wanted to do the skidoos and the bobsleigh but forgot to attend the Crystal meeting on the Sunday night - got a bit mashed on the local brew!

We had snow on the Sat and Sun night (from what i can remember!!) but very little through the week so it got a bit icy on some runs, particularly the l'Arpette run into Plagne Centre, which I promptly stacked it on and nearly had the rescue guys coming out to attend! A load of French skiers were quite worried about me but typical British grit and determination (and shame for stacking it) saw me hobble through!!!

Have you been before? If you haven't, there is so much in the way of runs that I honestly couldn't have found time to do anything but board for the seven days! I'm a beginner but managed my first blue run on the first day (the Bellecote run into Belle Plagne) and on day two, did the mogul-infested red run from up above Belle Plagne, which was a bit hairy but fun 'cos of loads of powder. Grab the long Collossus out of Plagne Bellecote and jump on the Mira run into Plagne Centre if you want a nice leisurely run or go up to Roche De Mio and do the tunnel for a bit of fun. It was well busy early afternoon though.

I maybe did about about 1/10th of the blues, one red and no blacks... thank god!!

I don't know your skill level but if you (or any of your group) want a nice bit of learning territory then head to the green run at the beginner's area in Plagne Centre. I spent a day there and it really helped me gain confidence after a few too many coccyx-bruising spills! I got my back bottom spanked by my missus mind... women seem to be a lot more patient than blokes!! Very Happy
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Specialman, was the bossleigh open?didnt know if it was cold enough,thanx for the info,think i'll be spending a day on the greens to get the ski legs going,then on the blues for a while,the mira run sounds good to me
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gryphea, thanks for that. We're staying in a different one - just thought I'd check in case it was the same.
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notverygoodatskiing, yeah and it ranges from "better than now" to "superb!". However, we may be skiing in bad weather for a few days....well tish.


Well GFS is seriously wobbling about that now. Looking warmer for that week. Still very early and still "better than now" but it'll (probably) change a few times between now and then.

Really need to see what happens after Thursday. The models are still having problem with the high pressure.
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fingers crossed,dancing all day/night,any other ideas Laughing
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notverygoodatskiing, yeah, I should refrain from posting about GFS ensembles in FI after a few beers. Embarassed Sorry.


EDIT not sure what happened there.
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Specialman, was the bossleigh open?didnt know if it was cold enough,thanx for the info,think i'll be spending a day on the greens to get the ski legs going,then on the blues for a while,the mira run sounds good to me


Bobsleigh site here http://www.cbls-laplagne.fr/
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skanky, so are we still on for winter weather,im all confused
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boredsurfin, cant really understand that im afraid,does it say its in operation?
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notverygoodatskiing, Well it says today is the Luge Senior World cup race's, so I guess it is in operation!

There's also this page on the Tourist office website http://www.la-plagne.com/en/bobsleigh_fr.phtml
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notverygoodatskiing wrote:
skanky, so are we still on for winter weather,im all confused


Still looking good for Sunday and early next week. After that I was being more certain than it warranted.
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notverygoodatskiing, the Crystal rep was running trips on Thursdays to the bobsleigh track so I take it that it's up and running.

There's a beginner's area at Plagne Bellecote but it's not that big. The one at Plagne Centre is great (about 400 - 500 metres long), although some of the 'tossers' use it as a cut through from the faster runs to the Arpette chair lift. Once you've done that then there are two good options:

You do the les Mines run (blue) from the bottom of the beginner's run. I didn't get a chance but it looks ace. It's a reallyt windy course that runs over the roads on bridges and through tunnels down to just above Plagne 1800, where you can get a lift back to Plagne Centre.

Alternatively (and I seriously recommend this for the buzz), get on the cable car from Plagne Centre up to La Grand Rochette. It takes about 10 minutes and takes you over the snow paerk where there's loads of jumps and grinds that can be done if you come down from the top on the carina run. We did the whole of the Mira run (blue) from the top of La Grande Rochette - it was awesome! You couldn't see more than 20 yards ahead of you going down the first major slope and apart from a few moguls, it was the BEST thing I've ever done. It's a really steep run at first but manageable if you barn door it and once you get further down it's really nice flowing turns, although there are some annoying flats for boarders. I had a major tumble though and kind of lost my confidence towards the end. it was awesome though!!!

There's a great sandwich shop in the shopping area at Plagne Centre right isnide the door. The mahoosive salami sandwiches are nice.
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Specialman, THe Arpette is in Bellecote, you're thinking of the Melezes, its not a cut through- its the only way to get there and you have to "whizz" as its bloody flat!!!!

If you do take the Mine track, be careful, its usually pretty patchy and theres a flat bit at the bottom to the 1800 chair. You'll then need to get another chair to get back to Plagne Centre- I would carry on going down towards Montalbert and get the Coqs lift back up - much more fun.
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Nadenoodlee, I'd agree Les Mines was pretty grim last April and that was with tonnes of snow, also the flat bit towards the lift can be very icy early on: we were in 1800 and the run back involved hooning down mines and then cutting into the trees on the right. The end of the run was used to get to the lift in the morning: hence the ice. The best blues for boarding are probably those over the back of the main ridge and the ones on the glacier: no major flat spots to contend with.
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Nadenoodlee, in my excitement just thinking about it I'm getting all confused!!! Very Happy Very Happy Yes, I was thinking of the Arpette lift that takes you up above Bellecote. That was the last run I did (Mt Jacques) so I could board to my door in Belle Plagne, although I was truly knackered by the end - too much getting bogged down 'off piste' by accident me thinks.

Didn't really hear much about Montalbert from the other Brits we met - is it okay down there? We're heading back to La Plagne at the end of March/start of April so do you reckon that there'll be enough snow to explore that lower area, seeing as its at 1350m? It looks interesting.

On the beginners slope at Plagne Centre there were loads of folk cutting through from the Mira run and joining that Melezes lift to do the Dou du Praz run. It was a bloody pain, especially when there were big groups of beginners being scared witless by boarders and skiers of a high calibre who think that passing within a few inches of someone constitutes giving a wide berth!!! Those coming off the runs in the main area of Plagne Centre can use that second slope that goes around the apartment block on the left (as opposed to under like the green run does) to joining the Melezes lift on the flat bit at the bottom. They have no need to do the majority of the beginner slope.
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