 Poster: A snowHead
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Looking for advice for how my helmet should fit. From what I can gather it should fit ‘snugly’ although I’m finding mixed guidance with regards to the adjustable fit systems and how this ties into the helmets function. I have a Salomon helmet which when worn without using any fit adjusters I wouldn’t describe as being snug, however it isn’t by any means loose and really doesn’t move much when I moderately shake my head. If I use the adjustment system the helmet fits nice and tight, however I’m not sure it this affects the safety in any way. Any guidance?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Tight for safety
Loose for comfort.
If the latter, then a beanie hat might be better
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@dohara, welcome to SnowHeads!
There’s a lot of helmet threads on here…
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The basics:
1. Fit not fashion, as in “The black one fitted better, but I wanted blue".
2. The chin strap is there to hold the helmet on after the first impact. It’s not the primary method of holding the helmet on.
3. When trying on, put on head, adjust any retaining devices, but do not do up the chin strap. Shake head vigorously, if it moves adjust further, if it still moves after adjustment, it’s the wrong helmet. Complete the test by touching your toes while shaking head, it should still stay on.
4. If the helmet passed step 3, do up chin strap so that you can feel the strap when you talk, ie. Probably adjusted, then try pulling the helmet off your head. If you can’t, you’ve found a properly fitted helmet, if you can either readjust, or try a different helmet.
5. Final test, wear the helmet properly adjusted for a minimum of 30 mins, ideally an hour, to test that it doesn’t become uncomfortable.
Also test with goggles, a buff or balaclava etc, to make sure it still fits. The same process should also apply when fitting helmets to your children.
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Thanks for your responses! The helmet passes all of those tests, however I feel as if it is the adjustment system holding the helmet on my head more so than the friction of the lining to my head. Is this okay?
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Does the size of the helmet match the circumference of your head ie. The measurement around your head just above your eyebrows and ears, roughly in the middle of your forehead?
The basic size should fit reasonably snugly, without being tight....but shouldn't move if you gently shake your head. The adjustment is there to fine tune. The helmet shouldn't move while you are skiing and shouldn't be so tight as to give you a headache. ie. you barely notice it's there.
If you ever wear a balaclava or beanie under the helmet, make sure there is enough room for that.
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If you ever wear a balaclava or beanie under the helmet, DON'T
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Fixed that for you. Based on what I've read online helmets are NOT designed to be worn over something like that, the beanie offers too much compression and means the helmet will not do it's job properly. You might be ok with a thin layer, but slapping a helmet on top of a bobble hat will likely mean you might as well not wear the helmet at all
https://www.peterglenn.com/blog/peter-glenn-staff/why-you-shouldnt-wear-beanie-under-your-helmet
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| nbt wrote: |
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If you ever wear a balaclava or beanie under the helmet, DON'T
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Fixed that for you. Based on what I've read online helmets are NOT designed to be worn over something like that, the beanie offers too much compression and means the helmet will not do it's job properly. You might be ok with a thin layer, but slapping a helmet on top of a bobble hat will likely mean you might as well not wear the helmet at all
https://www.peterglenn.com/blog/peter-glenn-staff/why-you-shouldnt-wear-beanie-under-your-helmet |
Sorry, I wasn't clear....I was talking about a very thin neoprene balaclava, or scull cap. ie. Something like this: https://radicalrider.co.uk/collections/neoprene-headwear/products/nrs-hydroskin-0-5-helmet-liner
From your linked article, which mentions what I was referring to: If you need that extra bit of warmth, it's recommended to opt for a specific thin beanie or balaclava designed to be worn under helmets. These are made from technical materials that are moisture-wicking and can provide added warmth without compromising the helmet's fit.
Beanie was misleading without clarification...and I was certainly not referring to a bobble hat.
Apologies for the confusion.
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Oooooh have we found the 2023/4 season helmet thread schism? The Buffs, Beanies and Balaclavas Boyz vs. the Puritan Pate Posse!
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| Richard_Sideways wrote: |
| Oooooh have we found the 2023/4 season helmet thread schism? The Buffs, Beanies and Balaclavas Boyz vs. the Puritan Pate Posse! |
(Top marks for alliteration!)
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Your helmet should not be able to twist round on your head nor rock forwards to touch your nose. The chinstrap should be tight enough not to be able to slip it over your chin without undoing it. If in doubt, get advice in the shop.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I’m thinking then my helmet is likely too big. Difficulty is my head measured 57cm, which puts me in the medium category, however I bought both a M and L, and the M was uncomfortably small. The L is, I suspect from responses, too large given I have to tighten the adjusters a lot to get it to fit snug. Shame though as I really like the look, but safety first…
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Try with a thin beanie; vaguely more important is mitigating the gap from the lip and the top of your goggles - always try both on at the same time. THE most important of all however is never be tempted to wear sunnies with a helmet irrespective of what ANY other helmet head on here might say . . .its the law, trust me 
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You know it makes sense.
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@Belch,  Like this?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@nbt,
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If you ever wear a balaclava or beanie under the helmet, DON'T
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But that's what snowHead buffs are for! Apart, of course, from tying to one's helmet or rucksack for recognition purposes. Not, in event, as a neck-warmer - personally I need something thicker for that purpose.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Hurtle, a nice thin layer like a buff is acceptable - it evens help slightly as a "slip" layer, but perhaps not a knitted beanie....
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@nbt, fair enough
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Gordyjh, No need for a helmet in 15degree soft stuff and no other skiers in sight - point proven!
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@Belch, that wasn’t your point.
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I bought a Kasp helmet, they don't have any sort of adjustments (other than you can adjust the chin strap), your head fits or choose another size or brand if none of them suit. The best fit you'll get if you have a head shape that fits their pattern. Very happy with it.
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Just big enough to be tight but still slide in and out as required.
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@Gordyjh, Franz def a personal hero - and my skiing technique is closer to his than Bodes the majority of the time; however he is Da Kaiser and can wear what he likes - unfortunately this does not apply to mere mortals . . .
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@Belch, I don’t ski anything like either, sadly!
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@Gordyjh, Not claiming I'm anywhere near the mighty Klammer - do ski narrow stance skarving most of the time however but refuse to wear a sunnies and helmet combo - its just not right 
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| Belch wrote: |
| @Gordyjh, refuse to wear a sunnies and helmet combo - its just not right |
Absolutely. Ditch the helmet.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You know it makes sense.
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Headband? Seriously? They were SO uncool in the 70s, let alone now! Even Bjorn Borg struggled to get away with one!
Nothing “wrong” with helmet/shades. NEVER ski without a helmet if you value the inside of your head.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Belch, the only people who ever thought headbands were cool were Hooray Henries. As stated, even Bjorn Borg struggled to carry it off!
I prefer shades unless it’s snowing, I don’t care about (a) or (bj & I’ve never had a problem with (cj
I am none of (a), (b) or (c) - I need no excuses…
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Gordyjh, You need to check out the 80's Hot Dogger vids - flowing locks / headband & shades - extreme out of control sort of bump skiing . . .the personification of cool and nothing to do with wannabe hoorays!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I asked the same question in a shop, their advice was: tight enough so when you try to move it it feels like it's also pushing your scalp/skin but not uncomfortably tight and definitely not tight that you have imprints after wearing it.
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@Belch, seriously uncool…
Next you’ll be telling me you’re a fan of Hansi Hinterseer!
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Hotdog Hans is wearing a helmet, seriously uncool baggy pants & has his skis flapping all over the shop in a somewhat uncool manner…
He might be trendy but not cool - he’s American.
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@Gordyjh, ??? He sports jeans / an 80s Columbia Jacket / A beanie and shades!
He is indeed American so get your point on that one . . . 
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Jeans not good, but in the video I saw he wears a helmet & he was going upside down in some pants with the crotch near his knees…
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@Gordyjh, Click the first vid in the link above - Hotdoggin Hans
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