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France off the cards, where next!?

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So France is now a no go. Due to travel this Sunday (19th). Where is everyone heading now? Started looking across the Atlantic but the prices over Christmas were extortionate!
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Where is everyone heading now?

Probably Hampshire, in my case.
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@jason123, my living room. really mad to even think about going abroad right now
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We were due to go the 27th… 95% sure we won’t but clinging to the 5% hope for a last minute get away if things don’t get as bad as they predict
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andorra ?
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Suspect the Swiss won’t shut the door but I’d get in quickly as the demand’s going to go through the roof after this…
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1st jan was mine - get the feeling this is going to go all over the place for next few months (europe-wise)
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I have a trip booked to Italy in March. We are hoping this still goes ahead
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I'm seriously considering buying a thicker wetsuit and heading surfing in Cornwall/Pembrokeshire this winter. I have already had to cancel 2 trips to France with more likely to go, it's the hope that kills you. I hope you all manage to hit the slopes if you want to.
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Sorry to be THAT guy - are we still allowed to travel to Switzerland? Iv had two jabs + booster. Wife has had 2 jabs. " kids aged 7 and 3 non vaxxed.

We were due to go to avoriaz on monday which is now off but do have alternative accomodation in Thyon in Switzerland if we are able to travel?
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France is doing irreparable damage to its tourism industry IMHO

I won’t be rushing there in the future
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Going to Nendaz on Saturday (hopefully!!) Haven't heard of anything from easyjet / Swiss govt yet so fingers crossed.
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We've got a trip booked to Italy on the 27th, so holding breath... Part of the group we are going with has dropped out due to restrictions, so there MAY be spaces if people are potentially interested.
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Scandanivia - hopefully (unless the dominos have all started fall)
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Heading up to the house in the Highlands and looking at models for it cooling down again, toured last week and it was ace. Have given up on overseas for the moment.
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Maybe March for me but we shall have to see how the chips fall
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@Mike Pow, I’m not a Fan of French skiing and this would have been our first trip there in Jan, for a number of years. I am not rushing back. Macron is not keen on the UK it seems. Switzerland , Italy, and Austria( not now I know), in future.
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@jason123, are you not tempted to get on the Eurotunnel tomorrow and try and find a B&B?
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Mike Pow wrote:
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France is doing irreparable damage to its tourism industry IMHO

I won’t be rushing there in the future


Me neither - always loved France but now inclined to never go again, apart from transiting

Sure their tourist trade will be livid - and let's face it France is in the same situation (or shortly will be)

Moronic as it is, hope UK Gov does the same back
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Very gutted. Looking to rebook for March now, wondering if France is the best idea though.
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All of Europe's resorts will be domestic skiers only pretty soon. To risky to plan or head to somewhere only to be left scrambling to get out as the rules change behind you.

Scotland could get very busier if the weather comes right for it
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I have spotted some amazing deals to Bulgaria. I know the skiing isn’t the same level but for £350 all in (no ski pass) it’s better than being stuck at home. Their travel requirements are easy to understand.

Has anyone travelled that way recently?
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We are booked for Canada in January but not holding my breath... suspect at this rate nowhere will be accepting uk travellers....maybe march ? By the time i get to use my new skis they will be outdated Eh oh! Eh oh! Eh oh!
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100% gutted - Avoriaz on the 26th looks dead in the water - was the only chance this year too. Now I'm gonna go and have a little cry
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if its relevant to anyone, our group now has 3 rooms available in Arraba, Italy going spare for the Christmas NY gap...
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Not for a while, but it was good enough skiing for a very enjoyable for a long weekend in Bansko. Bansko can suffer some horrendous gondola queues at holiday times, but these can be avoided by getting a taxi from town up to the "bottom left on the piste plan" of the lift infrastructure, or by going to Borovets instead.

apres ski food and drink is incredible value for money
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I wouldn't be too hard on the French, their politicians yes, but not your average Pierre or Fluer in the street.

Not sure why the UK has been singled out in this instance, but I am sure our own populist politicians have equally hacked off the French in many ways.
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@twoodwar, French ski resorts have been getting more and more expensive so for me, unless it's an incredible deal, I'm looking first and foremost at Austria and Andorra.
Today's news will sour France for a lot of people I fear
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Gilberts Fridge wrote:
Not sure why the UK has been singled out in this instance
It simply hasn't - but it's an omicron hotbed. The Continent is still fighting off delta and tries to slow down new imports. Omicron *will* become prevalent in France anyway, but they'd like to avoid this happening in the middle of an already difficult situation.
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jason123 wrote:
So France is now a no go. Due to travel this Sunday (19th). Where is everyone heading now? Started looking across the Atlantic but the prices over Christmas were extortionate!


If you're double vaccinated Austria is easy.
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Bulgaria? Just had this from banskoblog.com saying the snow looks good:

"And those of you who have booked for France will have read that non-essential travel is banned there, for UK residents. So far all is fein [sic] for most people to travel to Bulgaria but you'll find the top four reasons why you may not want to book your ski trip this season. There's a lot to talk about today."

with testing on site " I am expecting at least one more testing place in the vicinity of the gondola lift card park. Rapid Flow tests are around 10 lv (about €5)."

But fair play he includes things to be wary of with Bulgaria

"4 Reasons to avoid Bansko this season

If your pre departure test from Bulgaria back to your country is positive, you will be stuck in quarantine for 14 days, at your own expense
Travel rules change so that it is impossible to leave home for Bansko; like we' have just seen for France.
Bansko resort could close lifts due to covid
Bulgarian health care is below expected standard

Whilst I am not an expert, and who want to read about fear porn and corona but I do feel that Bansko may not be for all! And certainly not if you expect others around you to confirm to distancing and mask wearing regulations. "



I have no affilitation at all with this resort or this provider.
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I'm seriously considering buying a thicker wetsuit and heading surfing in Cornwall/Pembrokeshire this winter. I have already had to cancel 2 trips to France with more likely to go, it's the hope that kills you. I hope you all manage to hit the slopes if you want to.


Screw that, go somewhere warm! I just got back last weekend from Sri Lanka. 28°C water, super cheap, delicious food, easy travel (per test + vaccination). They really need tourists/tourist money right now too.

Key is to have the time off but book actual travel at the very last minute depending where is possible there and then.


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Spain would have to be a logical option. They are far more tourist friendly/reliant than the French, so tend to be less draconian with such measures. With the snow as it is at present just another reason to go, and then add in the fact it's generally a lot cheaper than France. Resorts in the Pyrenees are reachable via Barcelona/Madrid/Bilbao giving plenty of flight options, and even getting a ferry to Santander wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility. For those looking more off the beaten track there are also resorts like San Isidro near Oviedo, or even Alto Campoo, which while being no way large ski areas there are amongst some of the most beautiful wilderness in Spain (assuming your skiing is good enough to outrun the wolves and bears Twisted Evil ).
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Spain would have to be a logical option. They are far more tourist friendly/reliant than the French, so tend to be less draconian with such measures. With the snow as it is at present just another reason to go, and then add in the fact it's generally a lot cheaper than France. Resorts in the Pyrenees are reachable via Barcelona/Madrid/Bilbao giving plenty of flight options, and even getting a ferry to Santander wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility. For those looking more off the beaten track there are also resorts like San Isidro near Oviedo, or even Alto Campoo, which while being no way large ski areas there are amongst some of the most beautiful wilderness in Spain (assuming your skiing is good enough to outrun the wolves and bears ).


**edit - neglected to mention the Sierra Nevada of course!
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@Gilberts Fridge, I suspect it may have something to do with the very high covid rates in the UK, lower vaccination rates and lesser measures in place to prevent the spread, but then again other countries, such as Czechia have equally high rates as the UK.
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@Gilberts Fridge, I always thought America was the biggest Island Nation when it came to a lack of understanding of the world. But since returning to the UK I have been very surprised at the anti EU rhetoric in the media, close friends and obviously the right wing politicians. We make it very easy to be singled out by other countries as not been on-board.

I have lived and worked all over the world and I have to say we the English are not as popular as we may think. Once you learn the local language you realise what is actually is been said and the tone of the comments. (Please note I did not say British).
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AH well.

Now to swap the winter tyres off and put the general purpose ones back on the car, put the brand new ski boots and ski trousers into storage, delay repairing the ski gloves (again), start looking at refunds for the money spent on ski passes, look for repurposing pre departure covid test kits and start looking at the routes to Weardale. Hang on - have they got electicity there yet?

BTW I agree with @David B,
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I fear other countries may follow France’s example. I now have serious doubts that the PreBB and BB will happen. If they don’t, I’ll use the money I’d set aside for them to buy a new camera tripod and maybe a star tracker. Every cloud.
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