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Hi, does anyone know of this is valid instead of having to provide daily tests in France?
Hoping to take my kids away (12 & 17) first week in Jan and they've both had Covid in the past couple of months so was wondering if this could be used instead of having to test every day?
If so, how do I go about getting them?
Thanks in advance... And best of luck to everyone trying to get out to the mountains!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Hi, sorry to jump on your thread but I have a similar question.
Daughter, 15 is single jabbed and is currently isolating with covid (until Thursday) so don't think we can get her double jabbed before departure on 26/12. As I understand it, the fact she will have recently had covid should be good news but not sure what "proof of recovery" entails?
Good luck all and look forward to any enlightenment!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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You can pay for one privately in the UK at some private clinics. You need to submit a copy of the positive PCR email and a the passport.
The difficulty will be persuading a pharmacie to issue a QR code, based on that letter, than is scannable by TAC Verif, as the letter itself won't scan (as I understand it).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Have a look for the 'taking teenagers skiing this winter' thread.
Short version is there is no confirmed way yet of providing adequate proof for 12 - 15 year olds to avoid daily testing in France. Some pharmacy's are saying they will issue a code with written evidence most are saying they won't / can't for UK residents.
We're not going at Christmas so have the luxury of waiting to see how it pans out. We have made provisional plans to go to Austria instead as they accept written evidence of prior infection. I understand Andorra also has a more flexible approach.
Re: lateral flows for recently infected. For both our children, whose infections were picked up by lateral flows as no symptoms, we started testing them daily at day 7 of isolation and it was positive day 7, day 8, day 9 (very, very faint positive line) then day 10 negative.
Try and see what result you get now.
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It's PCR tests that has the increased risk of a false positive within 90 days of testing positive.
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@Timmycb5, the LFT potential positive was news to me so I looked it up. Heard it this morning from Jason Leitch on radio Scotland so looked it up and the reference I quoted backs it up. I'll look into the core research article.
Off course, PCR is more sensitive and if just done as a top-out reaction can give a small positive on legacy fragments.
However, I would assume the labs have a proper protocol to determine a true infection. Eg standard mastermix, precise number of cycles eg 22 rather than 50.
For a dirty genotype PCR I used 27 cycles and I could tell if my patients biopsy was high or low copy-number by eye and not done in any quantitative way.
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| GlasgowCyclops wrote: |
@Timmycb5, the LFT potential positive was news to me so I looked it up. Heard it this morning from Jason Leitch on radio Scotland so looked it up and the reference I quoted backs it up. I'll look into the core research article.
Off course, PCR is more sensitive and if just done as a top-out reaction can give a small positive on legacy fragments.
However, I would assume the labs have a proper protocol to determine a true infection. Eg standard mastermix, precise number of cycles eg 22 rather than 50.
For a dirty genotype PCR I used 27 cycles and I could tell if my patients biopsy was high or low copy-number by eye and not done in any quantitative way. |
Blimey. I hope the incidence is low 
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@Timmycb5, Seems like there is some off info on this. Dept of health days potential for a false positive LFT is there but there is no data with it to suggest if it is higher than a normal LFT false +ve rate. From my reading it seems that, "since it is unlikely you can be reinfected within 90 days (again no data link on their pdf) then there is no benefit in using a LFT because of the "potential" of a false +ve. Again they don't say why. Having reread my earlier post I should have used the word presumably in front of "(because of false +ves)" but it was what Prof Leitch said.
I'll do more digging while having this cup of tea.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Joeninetee1 wrote: |
https://www.skipass-lesmenuires.com/en/mesures-sanitaires
This page got me wondering, first paragraph, it does say if you can prove proof of recovery it is as good as proof of vaccine.
But this is Les Menuires, maybe other resorts are different...? |
If other resorts will accept a paper copy (with no QR) then I'll defo be doing that if to Gov doesn't pull their finger out and allow access to vaccination data for under 15s
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You know it makes sense.
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It does seem like things are improving... But it's still all clear as mud though isn't it?
It does seem that whatever you show the inspectors will have to be QR readable though.
. I doubt they have the time to check people's paperwork.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Hey everyone, I've since spoke with my eldest and he's downloaded the NHS app on his phone with his covid history (proof of recovery from being infected back in August).
We've since downloaded the French equivalent and transferred the certificate over successfully.
This app is now saying we are OK and that he is OK to travel into France as to all intents in purposes he's carrying antigens so is in effect vaccinated.
We followed the instructions on the 3Valleys website and according to their rules at the moment... We should be OK.
Just need to get the youngest sorted out now, should be the same process.
Fingers crossed the measures don't get even stricter.
Hope this helps.
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Poster: A snowHead
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So I don't think you need an expensive test from a private clinic, the NHS app and the QR code can be transferred to the French app.
No expensive daily tests and no expensive UK based clinic tests either.
Still have to do fit to fly tho... 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| GlasgowCyclops wrote: |
@Timmycb5, Seems like there is some off info on this. Dept of health days potential for a false positive LFT is there but there is no data with it to suggest if it is higher than a normal LFT false +ve rate. From my reading it seems that, "since it is unlikely you can be reinfected within 90 days (again no data link on their pdf) then there is no benefit in using a LFT because of the "potential" of a false +ve. Again they don't say why. Having reread my earlier post I should have used the word presumably in front of "(because of false +ves)" but it was what Prof Leitch said.
I'll do more digging while having this cup of tea. |
Hi, thanks for your input. Any more thoughts/ advice on how we should be testing on the basis 2 out of 4 of us were tested positive on PCR very recently?
I’d assume that proof of recovery would alleviate the need to test at all but I can’t find anything that says this is the case.
Appreciate everyone’s help, thank you.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Still have to do the fit to fly tests there and back and also the day 2 release tests back home.
Proof of vaccination /recovery from covid saves you having to queue and test every day of the holiday.
I think...
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Thanks. We are driving but guess still have to do the pre travel tests...?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Joeninetee1 wrote: |
Hey everyone, I've since spoke with my eldest and he's downloaded the NHS app on his phone with his covid history (proof of recovery from being infected back in August).
We've since downloaded the French equivalent and transferred the certificate over successfully.
This app is now saying we are OK and that he is OK to travel into France as to all intents in purposes he's carrying antigens so is in effect vaccinated.
We followed the instructions on the 3Valleys website and according to their rules at the moment... We should be OK.
Just need to get the youngest sorted out now, should be the same process.
Fingers crossed the measures don't get even stricter.
Hope this helps. |
Is the proof of recovery automatically generated in the app or does one have to do another PCR to prove negative?
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From what I have read, the current rules state, you have to provide proof of vaccination, proof of recovery, or a valid test showing the all clear less than 24hrs old.
The daily testing is for people who have neither been jabbed or had Covid.
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Ozboy... Yes. We have downloaded the French covid app and transferred the QR code across just to make sure.
But from what I have read, the UK NHS QR code is equally valid.
All we will do is set it up as a lock screen on our phones and present when required.
Let's hope the rules don't change again
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17 year old Should be fine to get proof on the app.
As far as as I know can’t get proof as of yet for the 12yr old. Government working on it but I’m not hopeful for Christmas for us. I’m planning for daily testing and hoping otherwise!
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