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France Updates Travel Restrictions

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brownie wrote:
You could take a spare LF test in case it’s needed at any point? I’ve bought an extra one in case it’s needed or some new rules come in when I am out there


That’s a good call.
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chrisjshort wrote:
But the Swiss rules state that if you've been in the UK in previous 10 (or did it say 14) days you need to do the test. I think!!!


I think that’s specifically for air/coach passengers - in the unlikely event of you being stopped at the border you’ll be in a car.
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@philipb, I have checked certificates from tests done at home and tests done in a clinic and there is no material difference between them - it doesn't state who or where the test was administered. 'Home test' or 'self administered' refers to you doing the test yourself and NOT having a certificate to prove that you have done it. So, the NHS tests are not acceptable. A test that is sent to your home, you do the test, take the photo, send it off, is acceptable. My children have used these to enter France, Austria and Spain in the last six months.
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Thanks. Really appreciate this. I've been so anxious what with first Austria going into lockdown, then Omicron, changes to coming back to UK, Switzerland potentially stopping me going from Tignes to Austria for the 13th then French travel conditions. I'm driving to Folkestone on Sunday! I feel I'm sorted having got a couple fit to fly lateral flow tests.

Thanks for the input.
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Assuming Austria is open for business we are driving across France to Austria on Boxing day (covid test on Christmas day 1pm valid for 48hrs ), then on the 2nd Jan driving to Aussois in France for a few weeks.

On current regulations would we need to take a Covid test prior to travel from Austria to France ?? by Jan 2nd would have been out of UK for 8 days.
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My c19 testing lateral flows arrived today - planning to take with us as spares in case restrictions change.

Sort of tempted to book PCRs rather than lateral flow for the outbound as then we'll definitely be ok if Spain changes its rules for entry. Just trying to figure out is my peace of mind worth the £60 each difference in price Eh oh!
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So for clarity:

1) I need a LF/PCR to go from the UK to France; and

2) I need a day 2 PCR to go from France to the UK?

Children 11 and over need a LF/PCR to go to France and everyone needs a day 2 PCR to come home.

is that the long and the short of it?
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@rachelharrisonsmith, thanks for that, mich appreciated. My daughter is going on her uni trip at the end of next week so we're keen to get it right!
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FrediKanoute wrote:
So for clarity:

1) I need a LF/PCR to go from the UK to France; and

2) I need a day 2 PCR to go from France to the UK?

Children 11 and over need a LF/PCR to go to France and everyone needs a day 2 PCR to come home.

is that the long and the short of it?


2) the PCR is required when you get home, not preflight, but yes, that’s it.
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I’ve just done a Swiss Travel Check for a trip via GVA to France, coming home a week later.

I think we all understand the requirements going out (ie both CH and F require a 48hr LF test) - but I also completed it for the way home, ie entering CH from F but having been in UK in previous 10 days. And it asked for another 48hr test.

Now whether you’ll actually be asked is pretty unlikely, but for the sake of twenty quid I think I’ll take a spare as suggested.
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Does anyone know if any of the points of departure (tunnel, airports etc) are setting up convenient test points? When we travelled over on the North Sea ferry via Rotterdam in September, at a point when Holland required a test certificate, P&O set up a testing site on the dockside.
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@chrisjshort, @philipb, I think that these „online self tests“ that you can get in the UK don‘t exist in France. At least, they don‘t exist in Switzerland and I just asked a colleague in France who says he‘s never heard of them either. The type of tests we have here are:
1) PCR, done with a long swab far up the nose + a swab to back of throat in a pharmacy/clinic/hospital. Results take 8 hours or so. You can get a certificate with the result for travel.
2) Antigen, done with a long swab far up the nose (I think this also now needs a swab to back of throat) in a pharmacy/clinic/hospital. Results in 15 minutes. You can get a certificate with the result for travel.
3) Antigen, done with a sort of short cotton bud like swab that only goes a little way up your nose which you can do at home. Results in 15 minutes. You cannot get a certificate.

I suspect the French are basically saying that they want (1) or (2), and have little or no idea that the British option 3b exists. However in practice, as long as you have a certificate with a negative result, I don‘t think they have anyway of knowing how you got it and so British „special“ 3b will be fine.
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When I have done a home LFT test and uploaded my results to the GOV site, I subsequently receive an email from the NHS informing me of my test result. Would the French/Swiss authorities find a paper copy of that email as proof of test ??? :: Just a thought !
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albob wrote:
When I have done a home LFT test and uploaded my results to the GOV site, I subsequently receive an email from the NHS informing me of my test result. Would the French/Swiss authorities find a paper copy of that email as proof of test ??? :: Just a thought !


The thing it’s not the Swiss/French you need to convince, it’s an Easyjet gate agent. For the sake of twenty quid I wouldn’t risk it tbh.
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albob wrote:
When I have done a home LFT test and uploaded my results to the GOV site, I subsequently receive an email from the NHS informing me of my test result. Would the French/Swiss authorities find a paper copy of that email as proof of test ??? :: Just a thought !


Doubt it, I'm sure I've seem references the test results must be from a recognised test lab, not Joe Blog's kitchen.

Also plenty of evidence (online video footage) where french health minister says from 4 Dec you will need a test to enter France even if vaccinated so even if it not on got website now don't assume that by Saturday that won't be the cae
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@dsoutar, you are probably correct -- daft suggestion from me......! ( I do indeed do the test in my Kitchen.. Wink )
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So in laymans terms to enter France via Geneva for a week on the piste you need:

- a test 48 hours before you depart
- complete a French passenger locator form
- complete a British passenger locator from
- a 2 day test once you have returned


Do you need to complete a Swiss passenger locator form?
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48 hours if a LFT or 72 hours if a PCR.
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scoman wrote:
So in laymans terms to enter France via Geneva for a week on the piste you need:

- a test 48 hours before you depart
- complete a French passenger locator form
- complete a British passenger locator from
- a 2 day test once you have returned


Do you need to complete a Swiss passenger locator form?


Yes to the Swiss PLF
Not sure there is a French PLF, but you do need to complete the 'Sworn Undertaking' for France.
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The Swiss Form can only be done no earlier than 48 hours before entry.
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Has the French testing been officially announced or is it just rumour mongering?
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@NE1, it was announced in a press conference yesterday
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albob wrote:
When I have done a home LFT test and uploaded my results to the GOV site, I subsequently receive an email from the NHS informing me of my test result. Would the French/Swiss authorities find a paper copy of that email as proof of test ??? :: Just a thought !


Unfortunately not you need to have the signed certificate that you get with the commercial ones. You will definitely get turned away and not allowed to board your plane with an NHS result.
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NE1 wrote:
Has the French testing been officially announced or is it just rumour mongering?


Several links to the decree upthread but here it is again:

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/JORFTEXT000044394836
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So for clarity:

1) I need a LF/PCR to go from the UK to France; and

2) I need a day 2 PCR to go from France to the UK?

Children 11 and over need a LF/PCR to go to France and everyone needs a day 2 PCR to come home.

is that the long and the short of it?


12 and over for children I think?
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@andy from embsay,

Really good point about the second LFT to return to Switzerland. Thank you.
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Do we think there will be any issue in arriving Geneva, driving to France, then 4 days later driving to Geneva to pick up family and driving back ? I guess another lat flow test ? Is there anything else needed to enter Swiss from france?
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so is the consensus you can do a self administered antigen test? and the certification is no different if you do a self or clinic one in the eyes of the French boarder guards
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@Mother hucker, yes. The certificate (certainly the C19 ones) doesn’t mention where the test was done. As explained upthread the French and Swiss don’t really have the same concept of a test done at home but producing a certificate.
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Mother hucker wrote:
so is the consensus you can do a self administered antigen test? and the certification is no different if you do a self or clinic one in the eyes of the French boarder guards
if it’s one that you pay for and are issued with a QR code, then I think the consensus is yes.
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This morning ( 2 dec ) Eurotunnel website was saying lat flow or PCR test required within 24 hrs for travel UK to France. By this evening information now saying no test required for fully vaccinated or under 12's
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I have Covid now (despite 3 jabs) and I'm due to visit to France via GVA on Jan 9th, my understanding is any subsequent LF or PCR test will still show positive for up to 90 days following an infection.

Has anyone seen anything about using a letter proving the infection and date being accepted by the French authorities instead of a LR/PCR test?
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Another spanner in the works

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/france-adds-negative-test-travel-rules-b1967674.html
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What I usually do is arrive at GVA, pick up a car from the French side, then drive through central Geneva and back into France (towards Evian).

So, I go UK -> Switzerland -> France -> Switzerland -> France, all in a couple of hours.

Anyone know if this is still OK?!
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@Mr_frosty, A PCR may show +ve for a while, but a LFT should be fine once you are no longer infectious.
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andy from embsay wrote:
NE1 wrote:
Has the French testing been officially announced or is it just rumour mongering?


Several links to the decree upthread but here it is again:

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/JORFTEXT000044394836


Ah, OK, I will tell my friends (non-skiers but heading to France next week). There is nothing on the BBC that they could find, so I wasn’t sure if it’s was official, and they don’t believe me
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Mr_frosty wrote:
I have Covid now (despite 3 jabs) and I'm due to visit to France via GVA on Jan 9th, my understanding is any subsequent LF or PCR test will still show positive for up to 90 days following an infection.

Has anyone seen anything about using a letter proving the infection and date being accepted by the French authorities instead of a LR/PCR test?


That’s not right. Up to 3 months after catching covid you are slightly more likely to get a false positive with a PCR test. Not so with a lateral flow.
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Timmycb5 wrote:
Mr_frosty wrote:
I have Covid now (despite 3 jabs) and I'm due to visit to France via GVA on Jan 9th, my understanding is any subsequent LF or PCR test will still show positive for up to 90 days following an infection.

Has anyone seen anything about using a letter proving the infection and date being accepted by the French authorities instead of a LR/PCR test?


That’s not right. Up to 3 months after catching covid you are slightly more likely to get a false positive with a PCR test. Not so with a lateral flow.


Yep, I had covid in mid-late October and had 4xPCRs last week (I was in hospital and they test every 2 days) - all neggo.
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Another spanner in the works

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/france-adds-negative-test-travel-rules-b1967674.html


Isn’t that what most of this thread is about?
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