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France Updates Travel Restrictions

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No doubt the France figures are higher than they are reporting, but as UK sequence more tests we will find more and numbers will be higher.

Knee jerk reaction maybe, political statement/intentions maybe.

PIA - absolutely, devastating and so hacked off
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@stefoy4me, exactly, if you look for Omicron you will find it. It’s everywhere I don’t doubt it.
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I hereby certify that my reason for travelling is one of the following compelling reasons:
● French citizens, their spouses (married, civil union and cohabiting) and their children.


Sooo, anyone know any French blokes who might want to get married in the next 2-3 weeks? Laughing
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Has anyone been able to find a “review date” for this change?
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@stefoy4me, Strictly, going by the numbers Denmark is ground zero for numbers with Omicron with 90,000 new cases yesterday equalised for UK population. And a very high proportion of Omicron and growing.

Who does most sequencing in Europe, Denmark and UK.
Of countries over 1m people, who does the most testing in Europe, Denmark, Austria and UK.
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Not an expert, but from what I observe, the vast majority of tests here are lateral flow / antigenic done at pharmacies without sequencing. Might explain the strangely low numbers for omicron here ...
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I've just had a call from Crystal about making an amendment I requested, and I asked if they were cancelling my holiday to Andorra which goes via Toulouse.

No, not cancelled.

The advisor said that the only holidays affected at the moment are ones flying into Grenoble Chambery (I think she said Geneva but may have mis-heard).

So, it looks like our holiday on Sunday is still going ahead.
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stefoy4me wrote:
Phantom & handy

No doubt the France figures are higher than they are reporting, but as UK sequence more tests we will find more and numbers will be higher.

Knee jerk reaction maybe, political statement/intentions maybe.

PIA - absolutely, devastating and so hacked off


Oh yes, those Frenchies would never tell the truth about anything --- unlike Johnson rolling eyes

Totally understand your being hacked off but Johnson's 'picture' painted over last 2 days is grim. If you were mainland-based you might objectively see BoJo's 'measured' response being underwhelming by the standards already in place in much of mainland Europe.

Doest make anyone right or wrong.

The fact that UK is unfortunately at the forefront of this damn variant an unfortunate fact.


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We were planning on driving 'through' France to Italy, and the 'Independent' is saying you can transit France if you do it in less than 24hrs. I'm clutching at straws I know. Has anyone seen that anywhere else?
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I've just managed to move my trip to Alpe d'Huez on the 15th Jan back to mid 12th March. Crystal were fine with it as hoped.
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@pinkcharlie28, see my post above.

I'm guessing that transmitting to Andorra is still okay so you may be sound
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@Specialman, transmitting would be a definite No No. transiting may be ok?
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I've just had a call from Crystal about making an amendment I requested, and I asked if they were cancelling my holiday to Andorra which goes via Toulouse.

No, not cancelled.

The advisor said that the only holidays affected at the moment are ones flying into Grenoble Chambery (I think she said Geneva but may have mis-heard).

So, it looks like our holiday on Sunday is still going ahead.


Must be classed as transmitting I guess - would be the only way it's allowed.
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@Specialman, transmitting would be a definite No No. transiting may be ok?

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Well I've cancelled and bizarrely I feel better, the uncertainty was doing my head in. Not happy but not surprised. Might try again in March...... but at the last minute
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@davejsy, @On the rocks, Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

I'm actually a bit shell shocked after the call... I was convinced that we weren't going, although I'm still dubious.
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I haven't done our statement of honour form yet.

Are they still available for travel before midnight tomorrow?
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jafa wrote:
This is the new dec to be signed before crossing with Eurotunnel

• Travellers in transit for less than 24 hours in an international zone.

I suspect that this rule applies to international transfers at airports only and cannot be used for driving through France to other destinations.
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@brianatab,
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Credit confirmation within a couple of hours.

Really?! I've cancelled two BA trips recently. I spoke to them on the 8th and the 13th and still haven't had any email confirmation on either trip.
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@brianatab, was this online manage my booking or did you call them?
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Crystal were very quick off the mark and emailed at 11am to say they have cancelled our holiday for next week and will be sending a full refund. They also sent a code for 10% off if we rebook for this season or next. We were due to fly into Chambery on Tuesday for a week in Serre Chevalier.
I’m gutted.
Half considering booking Austria instead, but will they just follow up with a similar announcement now?
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I thought about changing to Andorra but think just setting us up for more disappointment
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Especially frustrating when there are some real bargains to be had in Austria next week!! rolling eyes


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Susang73 wrote:
I thought about changing to Andorra but think just setting us up for more disappointment


Depending on when you're going, I personally think Andorra could be a good option. You can fly into either France or Spain, which gives you an additional option if one does add further restrictions (and Spain is normally pretty reluctant to block entry anyway). As Specialman has seen you can transit from France currently.

And the snow in Grandvaliria looks pretty good at the moment.
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Such a pain.

We're not due to fly until 14th Jan. Airbnb is free cancellation until 1st Jan, so I think we will end up cancelling the Airbnb and train tickets from the airport, get all our money back, and wait until last minute to decide on the flight. They're in to Geneva, so either go from there to Switzerland, or move to Italy or Austria depending on everyone's entry requirements.

You never know, France might be back on the cards again by then!
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I haven't done our statement of honour form yet.

Are they still available for travel before midnight tomorrow?


Yes, done ours in the last couple of hours.
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you would think there has been enough time to update the gov website by now...if you are not a snowheader and simply go to teh goc website for advice you would know nothing of the new french requirements !
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france
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chocksaway wrote:
Talk about shutting the stable door after the cheval has bolted.

President OMacron is going for the bold optical measure as opposed to making preparations for the wave that is going to engulf France before Christmas. He'll not be getting many votes in the Alps!


Don't think he would have got many, anyway (probably in his calculations prior to new measures!) - but think of all the votes he may pick up from Parisians delighted at empty slopes over the upcoming holidays. Twisted Evil
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Such a pain.

We're not due to fly until 14th Jan. Airbnb is free cancellation until 1st Jan, so I think we will end up cancelling the Airbnb and train tickets from the airport, get all our money back, and wait until last minute to decide on the flight. They're in to Geneva, so either go from there to Switzerland, or move to Italy or Austria depending on everyone's entry requirements.

You never know, France might be back on the cards again by then!


And that is the pain summed up nicely. We're due out in France on the 15th, and I think there is a chance restrictions may be eased by then - but you can't leave it that late without risking a lot of money. So, like most people, I think we could end up cancelling just to see it all open up again.
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Just goes to show.. two vaccines and a booster were a waste of time


Laughing Some perspective needed!


It's difficult to disagree with the original sentiment, at least in the context of travel.

It seems that it's the various world governments that seem to have lost all sense of perspective Sad
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Forgive me for clutching at straws but would UK citizens be allowed to enter via Switzerland - can’t find any time frame etc
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Forgive me for clutching at straws but would UK citizens be allowed to enter via Switzerland - can’t find any time frame etc


hoping to do just that tomorrow
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What concerns me is that Pandemic's of this magnitude last about five years. I genuinely wished I had not moved back to UK from Germany in 2013.


On the bright side, in 9 months time we will be half way through the 5 years.

Every cloud.... rolling eyes Shocked

Roll on ski season 26/27....
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I've seen a couple of posters in this thread who have said they have had refunds authorised by Easyjet, who were flying into Geneva, ahead of a trip to France - Is that the case? I;ve just spoken to them and they've said they wouldn't do it?
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paulo wrote:
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Just goes to show.. two vaccines and a booster were a waste of time


Laughing Some perspective needed!


It's difficult to disagree with the original sentiment, at least in the context of travel.

It seems that it's the various world governments that seem to have lost all sense of perspective Sad



Absolutely, this plays right into the hands of the antivax crew.
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I think Steve's post this afternoon puts things into perspective:-

https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=82612&start=7600
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Rookiescot wrote:
Forgive me for clutching at straws but would UK citizens be allowed to enter via Switzerland - can’t find any time frame etc


If you get to Switzerland you’d have a good chance of getting through the border (some are unmanned) but you’d probably have to claim on the PLF that you’re staying in Switzerland and may also struggle with French accommodation providers etc
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Gov website updated

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/coronavirus
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For those asking about still transiting into France from airports in Switzerland/Italy etc I'd think that's a very risky strategy to try and do. Going to be obvious you're a skiing tourist and not a trucker! Would think French authorities will close that loophole pretty smartish. Can only end badly in some enforced expensive quarantine.


It is risky, you're right. I do wonder whether every single border crossing will have people enforcing rules - i guess that's part of the risk. I'm waiting for official guidance around this still....


I honestly don't think flying into Geneva and driving into France in a rental car with Swiss plates would be risky at all. It doesn't matter if you look like a ski tourist. There are loads of skiers that live in Geneva and head into France every day so you'll just look like one of them. Even in the unlikely event you get stopped they have to ask if you've been in the UK recently.
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I had flights booked with Jet2 for 22nd of Jan, do you think I have any chances of getting a refund from them?

I think you’ll only get a refund if the flight is cancelled, and as it stands, there’s still a chance these restrictions will be lifted.


Thanks for the reply, unfortunately the place where we booked said we can only get 70% of our money back if we cancel before 20th of Dec, and we pretty much decided we will cancel. Sad times..


I'd probably try and argue you're not cancelling, the French government have stopped you from going, you'd go if you were allowed and see where that gets you
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