 Poster: A snowHead
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Morning everyone.
I appreciate that it’s an ever changing picture but is anyone aware of a one-stop site where all the Covid rules per country can be seen? I am looking at booking a week first week in Jan somewhere. A key point for me is stress free with Covid hoops as can be. I just want a weeks skiing where I can almost forget about it all. I’ve found it hard going mentally to be honest hence why I want a break from it as best I can.
I’m not sure how the rules are being applied in resorts also. Are lifts being considered public transport and therefore masks required etc? I could understand a cabin but a chair in the open? That kind of thing.
Failing that, any input that might help me pick a resort, operator to go with etc would be very much appreciated. Travel would be 1st Jan by the way. Has to be then, single dad and my lad is with his mum that week!
I’m sure I’m not alone with this type of question. It’s minefield trying to work out what’s going on. Maybe it’s a sign saying leave it for next year! Lol.
Cheers.
Boof.
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Thu 14-10-21 13:57; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The rules have not yet been set just yet in many cases (e.g. here in Switzerland), so you may have to wait awhile. Assuming you’re vaccinated though, you'll probably be ok wherever you go.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Boofont, unless there is a big change due to some completely unexpected happening, if you are fully vaccinated then there is not much of an issue. See https://reopen.europa.eu/en/ for info on entry requirements for each EU/EEA country. There are a couple of exceptions where you need a pre arrival test, eg Italy, but in most cases for travel from the UK, a vaccination certificate is all that is needed.
Most countries now have some sort of requirement for a "green pass" (ie proof of vaccinated or recent test) for entry to bars & restaurants. This is currently a bit of a pain for those with UK vaccination certs as mutual recognition of the NHS & EU certs has not yet been sorted (supposedly by the end of the month) but should be OK (France works already) by the time the snow starts falling. There are issues with 12 -18 year olds but by the sound of it these wont affect your trip.
Rules for using ski lifts are unclear at this moment, clearly masks are currently planned for enclosed lifts in most places, maybe you will need your "green pass" to buy a lift pass but as you will need this anyway it is not a big deal.
There is no reason not to plan on going skiing, probably more of an issue to find a place with availability at a place you like over New Year.
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I'm also interested in the hive mind re what is acceptable as an antigen test. I haven't travelled outside UK since Covid so have let the various cowboy testing ops pass me by. If US opens up I understand I will require an antigen test to travel. I assume an NHS lateral flow is inadequate here but a paid for lateral flow done day before travel will work even though it is exactly the same thing? Is that correct?
Seems a nice little scam for the testing companies given if necessary I could do a LFT in front of a check-in agent?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
I'm also interested in the hive mind re what is acceptable as an antigen test. I haven't travelled outside UK since Covid so have let the various cowboy testing ops pass me by. If US opens up I understand I will require an antigen test to travel. I assume an NHS lateral flow is inadequate here but a paid for lateral flow done day before travel will work even though it is exactly the same thing? Is that correct?
Seems a nice little scam for the testing companies given if necessary I could do a LFT in front of a check-in agent? |
I think it's because you need to be issued with a certificate to show the test was negative. I've got about 100 LFTs downstairs, and it does rankle that they can't be used.
The cheapest I've found is about £25, which isn't too bad when you add it to the price of the trip. You do need to make sure that each particular test is acceptable for the country you are visiting though, as some require very particular accuracy specifications.
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HM Govt website would be a good bet
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Thanks for the comments.
Looked at a few of the sites given. Of course you can work out what's needed if you spend some time reading through it all, and I can obviously do that. Perhaps a little optimistically thinking, I was hoping there might be some more ski related information out there, i.e., France you need to do xyz, Austria xyz, Andorra xyz etc etc.
I'd be very keen to hear some real world experiences from any of you that have recently travelled or live abroad etc.
I'm double jabbed by the way. Got a 5G chip in me, tin hat and everything else! lol
Thanks once again for the input which I really appreciate.
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@Boofont, IMHO I would not trust any website that is not controlled by the government of the country you are travelling to. Earlier on this year I travelled to France and the number of errors you could spot in non-official websites and articles was alarming.
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@Matt1959, Good point. Just trying to navigate through a minefield. I can see me leaving it for a year. Lol
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Anyone know if France (and the Eurostar) require a specific mask to be worn? I know the Austrian ski resorts require specific masks, but I can't find anything for France.
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| Timmycb5 wrote: |
| Anyone know if France (and the Eurostar) require a specific mask to be worn? I know the Austrian ski resorts require specific masks, but I can't find anything for France. |
No...if you are wearing a mask you are good to go. Many french are failing at the "any will do" stage of things....Eurostar may be a little strickter, but non specific
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@Timmycb5, for flights to/from France you must wear a single use medical grade mask, fabric ones aren't accepted. Not sure about Eurostar but as it's govt legislation for flights I suspect it may apply there to.
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The vaccine issue I’m thinking about is travelling with my teenage kids.
UK policy is to offer only 1 dose of the vaccine to young people aged 12-17.
As far as I can see EU countries and CH require both doses of the Pfizer vaccine + 14 days to allow entry with no period of quarantine. 1 dose only for teenagers means they don’t count as vaccinated.
Under 12s with a vaccinated parent will be OK - no quarantine required for them. But there is no way for 12-17 year olds to count as vaccinated.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@ster, Keep an eye on the Swiss news. Entry to the country is one thing. Skiing is another. Ski areas are currently debating with the Federal Council what the rules will be, the most popular being 3G - vaccinated, recovered or tested. The upside of this would be that all other restrictions are abandoned, so no masks in queues or on chairlifts, or in restaurants. There should be news on this in the next few weeks.
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@telford_mike, as far as I made out, @Android2000, was referring to the current rules for travel and not what might happen or might not happen in regard to skiing. These are the current rules for travel, and they if course (as well as rules for skiing) may or may not change.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Android2000 wrote: |
The vaccine issue I’m thinking about is travelling with my teenage kids.
UK policy is to offer only 1 dose of the vaccine to young people aged 12-17.
As far as I can see EU countries and CH require both doses of the Pfizer vaccine + 14 days to allow entry with no period of quarantine. 1 dose only for teenagers means they don’t count as vaccinated.
Under 12s with a vaccinated parent will be OK - no quarantine required for them. But there is no way for 12-17 year olds to count as vaccinated. |
Yes, this is an issue. I’m hoping to take my son in April. UK policy is not helping. Annoying that we have to be different.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I don't think the main problem is getting 12-17s into the country-it is more about how they will be treated if not double jabbed once they are there.
I just wish HMG would let people have the choice of double jabs for teenage children (not mandate them) and then we can all decide what we would like to do from a full range of options.
On the other hand, it may well be that these vaccine passport schemes are temporary just to get through this winter. Doesn't help for this ski season though of course....
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@snowhound, I had the same thoughts ref having the choice. Regarding your comment about the schemes being temporary, I wish I believed that but my feeling is things will creep the other way and get worse. I only found out today about the “green pass” in Italy which is required for any job. But anyway, perhaps not the place to get going on Covid in that sense.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Boofont, Yep, the public health and safety ratchet tends to turn only one way. Still lots of covid theatre going on which makes minimal difference, if any.
I am hoping that once tens of millions of US and EU teenagers are safely double jabbed, that might at least provide the necessary evidence for the UK to follow. It would seem an obvious route but an evidence based (rather than politically driven) approach would be a nice change.
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A bit of a tangent on this thread (sorry), but if we're spending a few days in Switzerland flying in from the UK (all vaccinated bar U16 y/o) and then going on to France, do we need to present a -PCR for the U16 y/o when travelling over the boarder from the Swiss side of Geneva to France?
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@beenative, We're doing something similar, flying to Geneva then self driving over to French Alps. All I've read is that there are no border checks between France and Switzerland and no test needed for kids travelling to Switzerland with parents. Worth noting that if you travel directly to France, vax parents need no test but U18s only need LFT not PCR, if done within certain time of arrival.
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Thanks @snowhound, that's pretty much how I read it. We could do a LFT via Zoom in Switzerland if needed to cross over before hand, also imagine the rules are going to change somewhat between now, see how it pans out I guess
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