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Electric charging points in France - Driving from UK to Alpes D'Huez

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@BobinCH, how do you get a reduced rate at Ionity , my Taycan is due to turn up in 3 weeks time and that seems to be a heavily discounted rate ? Im currently signing up to all the providers , grisdserve electrocity etc etc
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Taycan owners get 3 years subscription to Ionity (rate £0.30p).

https://www.porsche.com/uk/aboutporsche/e-performance/charging-bev/#road~open
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@gwatts10 don’t use the app use the my Porsche website to sign up, your dealer should help.
If you’ve not looked yet there is a UK Taycan Facebook page that can be useful for information.
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We have a model 3 and an ID4. The ID4 is a brilliant car, lovely to drive but I wouldn’t take it on a trip to the Alps. It’s a total faff charging a non Tesla away from home. I did take the Tesla to Serre Chevalier 19 months ago. From the Dundee area. First day we left at 7am and got to St Omer at about 8pm. Next day left about 8am and got to SC at c7pm. It was a total breeze. We were a couple of mid 50’s guys, not in too much of a rush, we only waited on the car charging once. Every other time it was up to 80% and we were still peeing or having a coffee. The BIG advantage the Tesla has is the Tesla planner will tell you how many chargers are available at each station, more or less in real time, so you know what you’re going to. Plus there is no registration required whatsoever, just plug in the charger and walk away. The low temps barely affected the range, surprisingly. We went over Le Grave in a blizzard and 4WD took us straight up and down whilst others were struggling and fitting chains etc. Granted chargers will be busier nearly 2 years on and if you have 4 guys, lots of kit, maybe a roof box the range will drop, perhaps alarmingly. Not taking it these year as the big trip is to the states but I would happily drive again, in fact if going for a long week, leave Friday back the following Sunday, it would be my preferred option. I don’t particularly like flying, airports, hanging about etc and we found it interesting and relaxing.
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Do you want to borrow my diesel suv Laughing - one tank of gas each way
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Fifespud wrote:
We have a model 3 and an ID4. The ID4 is a brilliant car, lovely to drive but I wouldn’t take it on a trip to the Alps. It’s a total faff charging a non Tesla away from home. I did take the Tesla to Serre Chevalier 19 months ago. From the Dundee area. First day we left at 7am and got to St Omer at about 8pm. Next day left about 8am and got to SC at c7pm. It was a total breeze. We were a couple of mid 50’s guys, not in too much of a rush, we only waited on the car charging once. Every other time it was up to 80% and we were still peeing or having a coffee. The BIG advantage the Tesla has is the Tesla planner will tell you how many chargers are available at each station, more or less in real time, so you know what you’re going to. Plus there is no registration required whatsoever, just plug in the charger and walk away. The low temps barely affected the range, surprisingly. We went over Le Grave in a blizzard and 4WD took us straight up and down whilst others were struggling and fitting chains etc. Granted chargers will be busier nearly 2 years on and if you have 4 guys, lots of kit, maybe a roof box the range will drop, perhaps alarmingly. Not taking it these year as the big trip is to the states but I would happily drive again, in fact if going for a long week, leave Friday back the following Sunday, it would be my preferred option. I don’t particularly like flying, airports, hanging about etc and we found it interesting and relaxing.



We are in your neck of the woods in Angus - interesting to read your experiences - we have a standard tesla Model 3 and a diesel audi. Just debating between an i-pace, EV6, ID4 and extended range model 3 to replace our Audi. Primary consideration whether we can drive it over to the Alps in a reasonable time frame with our two kids. Think your post has swung it in favour of a second Tesla, could I ask if you have any experience of crossing at Dover vs Newcastle? We drove to dover over the summer ( would not let us board at newcastle due to dutch restrictions) - it was quite a good run but the return leg in the North of England was painful and slow.
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@Rookiescot, I do East Lothian to Folkestone regularly (not in an EV) and it's not too bad - something like 8 hrs driving plus stops. Cross the channel & stop the the night near Calais. The trick is to work out how to miss rush hour at Newcastle and/or London. Trouble is being in Angus you've got another 2 hours to go....
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@Rookiescot, rumours are that the Y order book might open up soon in the UK! I do agree the Tesla charging network is very advantageous, but others like Instavolt are coming on strong!



Also noticed this for frequent EV travellers https://insideevs.com/news/538946/ionity-passport-charging-network-subscription/
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After quick google - Twsla has 600 sites in Europe, Ionity has 400.

Tesla is also supposed to open their supercharger network to non-teslas
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Rookiescot wrote:
Fifespud wrote:
We have a model 3 and an ID4. The ID4 is a brilliant car, lovely to drive but I wouldn’t take it on a trip to the Alps. It’s a total faff charging a non Tesla away from home. I did take the Tesla to Serre Chevalier 19 months ago. From the Dundee area. First day we left at 7am and got to St Omer at about 8pm. Next day left about 8am and got to SC at c7pm. It was a total breeze. We were a couple of mid 50’s guys, not in too much of a rush, we only waited on the car charging once. Every other time it was up to 80% and we were still peeing or having a coffee. The BIG advantage the Tesla has is the Tesla planner will tell you how many chargers are available at each station, more or less in real time, so you know what you’re going to. Plus there is no registration required whatsoever, just plug in the charger and walk away. The low temps barely affected the range, surprisingly. We went over Le Grave in a blizzard and 4WD took us straight up and down whilst others were struggling and fitting chains etc. Granted chargers will be busier nearly 2 years on and if you have 4 guys, lots of kit, maybe a roof box the range will drop, perhaps alarmingly. Not taking it these year as the big trip is to the states but I would happily drive again, in fact if going for a long week, leave Friday back the following Sunday, it would be my preferred option. I don’t particularly like flying, airports, hanging about etc and we found it interesting and relaxing.



We are in your neck of the woods in Angus - interesting to read your experiences - we have a standard tesla Model 3 and a diesel audi. Just debating between an i-pace, EV6, ID4 and extended range model 3 to replace our Audi. Primary consideration whether we can drive it over to the Alps in a reasonable time frame with our two kids. Think your post has swung it in favour of a second Tesla, could I ask if you have any experience of crossing at Dover vs Newcastle? We drove to dover over the summer ( would not let us board at newcastle due to dutch restrictions) - it was quite a good run but the return leg in the North of England was painful and slow.


We went through the tunnel - no experience of Newcastle. On the way down we stopped at Penrith, Grantham then charged at Eurotunnel. All Superchargers. It was pushing it a bit. We missed the Grantham charger and after turning back we arrived with a SOC of 3% - wasn’t that scary though. You know the charger is working and there are vacant slots. We then headed to near Lille that night and stayed at a hotel with a destination charger. We stopped more frequently through France but we only waited once on the car reaching the required SOC, funnily enough at the first stop at Penrith. There were only 2 of us in the car but we weren’t driving slowly. I really enjoyed the journey as I said.
The ID4 is a great car, extremely comfortable and we needed a car to transport our dogs - couldn’t wait any longer for a Y. However charging in the wild on non Tesla chargers only is pretty scary. Charge Place Scotland is very hit and miss. You can see when you pull into a supercharger station there are maybe 12 bays and maybe only 2 non SC chargers, 1 of which is broken. It’s probs better in Europe, I don’t know, and chargers are getting more numerous all the time, but so many folks are buying ID’s, Hyundai’s and Kia’s etc - not quickly enough IMO. There hardly any 150KW out there, never mind 350KW. Plus you need a wallet full of plastic cards to work the damn things. Should all be contactless.
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@kitenski....must have a look, I though it had been kicked into the long grass for now.... tempted by the 7 seat option for all the kids rugby/hockey/footie pickups thanks
@fifespud thanks for the info.


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@Fifespud, do you use any of the apps like Zap-Map to check current usage, if working etc of charge stations?
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kitenski wrote:
@Fifespud, do you use any of the apps like Zap-Map to check current usage, if working etc of charge stations?


@kitenski I do look at Zap-Map and Chargemap but they are reliant on EV drivers logging in and reporting operating status. The original cohort of EV owners, the early adopters, were more likely to do this in my experience. My wife, for example, wouldn’t know, or even want to know, how to do all that. It would be fairly simple to get the API from the charge place providers and map it all in real time, as Tesla do but to my knowledge nobody is doing it. Getting to a charger and finding the 150 KW is down, then having to wait half an hour for the 50 KW to come free is pretty frustrating when you’ve got your channel crossing booked.
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You know it makes sense.
Haha, range anxiety. Exactly why I don't own an EV.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
skimachine wrote:
Haha, range anxiety. Exactly why I don't own an EV.


I prefer to call it charging anxiety.

I'm 100% for EVs, but the public charging infrastructure is a little spotty right now. If you lived in the Netherlands, you're laughing, as there are more than 60k public charging points vs 24k in the whole of the UK. And Greece only has 300 public points...

On the plus side, there's a clear market for public charging now, so more companies like Allego and ChargePoint are going to be investing millions in fast charging, i.e. above 100 kw. And once you get used to Ionity or Supercharger charge times you won't stand for less. At the same time, the BPs and Totals are going to have to put in lots of charge points at their motorway stations.

Bottom line is we plan on waiting until after 2025 to go electric, at least for a car we'd use for road trips.
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