I'm wanting to get a lightweight pair for the coming season nothing so mad that it's useless on the down as I'm still not going to be doing anything like hut to hut touring.
I'm 172cm tall 65kg.
I currently have some 169 carbon preachers, too wide at the tips to fit in skin tracks, and 190 carbon Rag's, just ridiculous to skin on both quiver killerd with Dynafit Rad 2's will probably use those bindings as I don't want to give up the rotational elasticity.
I quite liked the Blizzard Zero G 95's when I had a quick go on them at an october test a couple of years ago, though they did feel almost too stiff.
Would maybe like something with a slightly tighter radius Dynastar Mythic 97 or Black Crows Camox Freebird any other suggestions?
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Völkl Rise Above 88s get well described and are very popular round here ...
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@under a new name, always forget about Völkl, and looks like they do a 96mm version now.
@DB, would you really suggest going so short? I like my 169 Preachers but I got those when I'd only been skiing a couple of years.
@Old Fartbag, it was quite a few years ago but found the Superguides a little meh, hard to say why and so many ppl seem to like them I should probably try some again.
The latest construction Superguides are different to the ones you tried. The Superguide 95 (1370g) in 170cm or the Superguide 88 (1270g) in 170cm would be exellent. Both will work great with QK'd Rad 2's although you're going to need some narrower heel bases/brakes. The all round performance and durability of the Scott construction for a ski of this weight is class beating.
The Speedguide 89 is a very light hut-to-hut/ski mountaineering beast and are best with a sub 300g binding so aren't suited for your requirements.
And I've got one pair left of 2018 167cm Whitedot R.98 CarbonLites at the right price for a CL but they'd still be a bit dearer than a 21/22 Superguide.
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Daishan wrote:
@DB, would you really suggest going so short? I like my 169 Preachers but I got those when I'd only been skiing a couple of years.
I'm the same height as you and I'd go a bit longer, sounds like you could go longer too.
Have 167cm and 177cm touring skis. The 177cm's can be a challenge while doing kick turns but the increased surface area (they are also wider) is better in powder.
I'll probably go for 170-175cm length and a 95mm waist for my next touring skis.
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Thx that was the kind of length I was thinking, I have managed kick turns on the 190 Rag's but wouldn't fancy it on more exposed terrain as it couldn't be called elegant
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Are you going to use the skis just for touring or for piste skiing too?
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The piste is for getting to better snow
It's not going to be loads of vertical as I'm not fit enough for much more than a couple of hours up per day.
It's partly wanting a touring ski and partly wanting something a little narrower than my Whitedot's.
I've always liked light skis even when not going up, easier to flick around in the tree's.
Thx Jon, I'll have a closer look at those.
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A nice pair of lightly used Ranger r108cl would do.
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@adithorp, but where could I possibly get a pair of those from???
Tbh don't think I want anything with quite such a large radius or as wide 90-98 would be the sweet spot I think with the other skis I have.
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Daishan wrote:
@adithorp, but where could I possibly get a pair of those from???
Tbh don't think I want anything with quite such a large radius or as wide 90-98 would be the sweet spot I think with the other skis I have.
I think I might be able to find a pair and there price might be inversely proportional to the turn radius.
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Volkl Bmt 90s are very good , some weight penalty vs VtA/Rise series but ski sooo good. I’m on 184s , not sur where the shorter numbers go . Scott’s are are also awesome .
Volkl touring kit also very good in Alpine piste environments unless you are at Mach Loony.
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Völkl BMT 90's are available in 163, 170, 177 and 184cm lengths.
They are very expensive approx. €800+ but have an excellent performance to weight ratio (1320g/ski in a 170 length)
@DB, that trip looks very tempting, have you ever done it before?
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Daishan wrote:
@DB, that trip looks very tempting, have you ever done it before?
Yes just once in 2019 (pre-COVID) wanted to go again in 2020 but it was cancelled because of COVID.
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Looks like getting there would be a bit of a pain, no direct flights to Salzburg no shared transfers operating until December :/
Oh well as fun as it would be it's a lot of traveling for just a few days skiing.
@spyderjon, any idea if Völkl will be bringing any skis to Octobertest?
@Daishan,
I’m similar weight to you and sold my much loved 169 Preachers after buying R.98s in 167 with Radical 2 bindings. I now use the R.98s for all my skiing. I don’t find the long radius limits manoeuvrability as they are quicker edge to edge and bend when you need them to. The long radius is particularly comforting when traversing steep icy slopes.
I see that Whitedot’s website still has some non carbon R.98 167 for sale at Euro 499.
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Daishan wrote:
.........@spyderjon, any idea if Völkl will be bringing any skis to Octobertest?
Yep, Volkl will be there as will Whitedot, Blizzard, Noridca, Whitedot, Dynastar, K2 and Line. Not sure what touring offering as covid has affected what demo skis are available - but I'll know nearer the time. Unfortunately Scott won't be there as they didn't bring in any demo's in to the UK at all.
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@Daishan,........I see that Whitedot’s website still has some non carbon R.98 167 for sale at Euro 499.
Yep, they're sitting in my shop along with the last pair of CL's
@Daishan, from what I saw in the summer think that many a shop will be keen to offload the stock they bought in for last season when we had no lifts in France and everyone was taking to touring, so you could probably try a few before buying.
And yes you can't go wrong with Superguides, my 105's are my do-everything ski, so much so that I hardly used my 89's, or my Blackcrows Atris in 50 odd sorties last season.
I just find that they can tackle any snow-pack you might encounter enabling you to still have the confidence to still charge 10cm built-in polystyrene crust, through to heavy spring sludge etc and are still light enough to do big days on.
Might look nice but I can assure you it was very technical to ski.
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That's a great pic!
Did you jump in the transition? I don't see the tracks...or was it so frozen that you didn't leave any during the transition?
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@horizon, I'm not too sure though could be hard-pack before and I skied over it?
If I'd been on lighter skis I would not have had the confidence to charge.
Think I skied up there four days in a week and every day the snowpack was different, that's why ski choice can be the difference, we all ski-tour on 105+ now inc my OH.
This video pretty well sums up technical skiing, at times might look good if I grabbed a still but you can see from my tracks how bad the crust etc was, think my OH was reduced to nigh on snow-ploughing down, just look how far back she ends up
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@Daishan, from what I saw in the summer think that many a shop will be keen to offload the stock they bought in for last season when we had no lifts in France and everyone was taking to touring, so you could probably try a few before buying.
And yes you can't go wrong with Superguides, my 105's are my do-everything ski, so much so that I hardly used my 89's, or my Blackcrows Atris in 50 odd sorties last season.
I just find that they can tackle any snow-pack you might encounter enabling you to still have the confidence to still charge 10cm built-in polystyrene crust, through to heavy spring sludge etc and are still light enough to do big days on.
Might look nice but I can assure you it was very technical to ski.
Literally gaping!
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.......Literally gaping!
That's because every turn at that speed you think is about to turn into an "Oh shite moment" as per the video above
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Literally gaping!
Phhhr you call that gaping, you should look at this blast from the past in similar snow conditions (2013 vintage, dynafit titan ski-touring boots, dynafit rad 1 baltoro bindings & Kästle TX87 i.e. 87mm waist width, touring skis)
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both quiver killerd with Dynafit Rad 2's will probably use those bindings as I don't want to give up the rotational elasticity.
