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Does anybody know if there are any 2 section ski poles (or even 3 section poles) that screw together in the middle (or in 1/3's).
I prefer one piece poles by they are too long for my luggage (54"?).
I have tried some of the variable (telescopic) poles, but the lock holding them together (was not overly strong) meaning I was putting them back to the same length on the lifts nearly every time.
I would call it up to 15 cm of play, sometimes there wasn't any, and they held to the required length.
The manufacture and model name of any would be appreciated. I don't value them too highly though, as don't think they will ever be as good as one piece poles.
The use would be for downhill piste skiing.
Thanks,
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Any decent 3- piece hillwalking poles will do, leki are the biggest name, or black diamond. Get the ones with flicklock fastenings rather than the twist type, I can assure you they'll be absolutely fine, I put mine under way more pressure walking than they ever get skiing.
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BD Flicklocks - bomber.
Ok so I snapped the tip off one after many years' use so maybe light grenade proof.
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Do they not travel with your skis?
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
BD Flicklocks - bomber.
Ok so I snapped the tip off one after many years' use so maybe light grenade proof. |
Agreed. Never had any movement in mine... Or BlackDiamond Compactor 3 part folding poles.
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@alienhead, I don’t think you will find any screw together ski poles because there is no need for them. Current brand name poles either use flick/cam locks or wire and push button systems that are as solid/strong as you could want. About the only downside is that they are slightly heavier than one piece poles, because of the mechanism.
I’ve never had problems with Black Diamond, Leki or G3 adjustable poles, and that includes ski touring which exerts far more load on poles than piste skiing ever will.
As for why you would have them in your luggage rather than your ski bag, I don’t know, and I wouldn’t recommend trying to take them in hand baggage, as some over zealous check in security person will decide that they dangerous and confiscate them.
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Thank you for your answers.
(sugarmoma666) I use the 1 piece poles when travelling with skis, the adjustable poles when travelling with short skis.
I saw the short ski's as more convenient when travelling to the resort, thinking that if used effectively they might provide a good skiing experience (similar to longer ski's).
They do, I like them. I have seen people advise against using poles at all with short ski's, but find they are necessary for balance (leaning back on (this might have caused the reduction in length)), without them, would probably fall over more. I prefer the longer ski experience, but find travel to the resort difficult, all that equipment really weighs a lot. My short ski's perform well even on difficult runs, but for the hardest runs, yes longer ski's are a more stable, more robust option.
(PowderAdict) I think my current adjustable poles use flick locks, the other option, wire and push button systems, sounds like it might be what I want, I will research that more.
Thanks for the other answers, will research them as well.
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I’ve just got some Black Diamond Traverse poles with their flicklock system and there’s no way the pole is moving. You can use the small screw to tighten them if necessary to the point where you can barely close the lock. This system is miles better than the lock on previous touring poles I’ve used.
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FWIW I get through poles at an alarming rate, that said my OH is still using my old Black Diamonds that I bought in 1998, but I've kept them going by using parts from another pair I bought a few years later.
Yesterday on my first tour of the year I ended up using an odd pair as I forgot that on my last tour pre-lock-down I broke one.
So today decided that I'd go on the hunt, and first stop Decathlon to see what they might have, as I'm really impressed with some of their hardware, but alas all sold out!
Then nipped up to Intersport, avoiding the specialist touring shop where I've bought my last three (or was it four) pairs of Komperdell poles and again empty racks, but I opted for some Leki poles, Haute Route which seem to be well engineered.
And back home thought I'd see if there are any reviews etc and from their own website, and this was interesting....
.... In combination with the grip extension, you have full control in every grip position. The adjustable strap can be adjusted to fit your hand size and helps save energy when ascending....
Which is what I've been saying, and @BobinCH about straps in the "Good reason not to use pole straps off-piste" thread
https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=154382
Mind you they have some very expensive poles, if you scroll down!!!
https://www.leki.com/uk/product-area/touring/poles/3374/haute-route/
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Thank you for the last two answers, good advice from those that know.
I spent a couple of hours searching through pole after pole after pole, until I found this:
https://www.outdoors.org/articles/ice-ax-trekking-pole-black-diamond
It was like, that defeats the object, I wanted a nice easy (looking like 3 section folding pole) pole, that's not going to give up on me at the wrong time. The above would be another problem I don't want.
Your advice is good, am I right that your interest is ski touring? Respect due, not an easy thing to do.
I only really want the poles for piste skiing, so will try to find some folding poles that don't look too out of place.
I doubt I will ever ski tour, but the current situation should increase it's interest.
Hopefully, things will improve soon.
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There are very few "folding" poles, except the type used by distance runners, usually carbon fibre , and somewhat fragile. A bog- standard hiking pole, with flicklock type fastenings will be absolutely perfect, without any great need for time to be spent researching. The only real consideration I'd give is the grip, leki have very comfortable well shaped grips, whereas I think this is an area where cost cutting is very apparent. A spare snow basket tends to come with better brands too, rather than the small hiking disc.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| BobinCH wrote: |
| I’ve just got some Black Diamond Traverse poles with their flicklock system and there’s no way the pole is moving. You can use the small screw to tighten them if necessary to the point where you can barely close the lock. This system is miles better than the lock on previous touring poles I’ve used. |
Agree mostly likely user error if using flicklock closure and it’s slipping. I have BD traverse two piece and some BD carbon three piece poles with cork handles that I use for hiking.
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| Roguevfr wrote: |
| There are very few "folding" poles |
Not intentionally at least! 
Another vote for BD Traverse (Pros). Not had any problem with mine.
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You know it makes sense.
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Agree with others i.e. go flick lock and not twist lock (twist lock always seems to slip eventually).
Picked up some Komperdell flick lock 2 piece poles about a year ago. Good price and performance, sturdier than the 3 piece BD poles they replaced. Only downside is that they are longer when fully retracted than the three piece. The additional length might be a problem when ski mountaineering or doing a via ferrata / klettersteig. Big plus for ski touring with the two piece is that the upper section is longer and so a longer grip is possible.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@DB, I should post a picture of all my knackered Komperdell poles along with the spare flick-locks I bought as they too gave up, shop said was a fault on the new pole last year, hence gave me some new flick-locks.
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| Weathercam wrote: |
| @DB, I should post a picture of all my knackered Komperdell poles along with the spare flick-locks I bought as they too gave up, shop said was a fault on the new pole last year, hence gave me some new flick-locks. |
Must admit my Komperdell Ascent Ti 2`s haven't had too much use up to now, only done a handle of ski tours since I bought them in Dec 2019.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| alienhead wrote: |
Thank you for the last two answers, good advice from those that know.
I spent a couple of hours searching through pole after pole after pole, until I found this:
https://www.outdoors.org/articles/ice-ax-trekking-pole-black-diamond
It was like, that defeats the object, I wanted a nice easy (looking like 3 section folding pole) pole, that's not going to give up on me at the wrong time. The above would be another problem I don't want.
Your advice is good, am I right that your interest is ski touring? Respect due, not an easy thing to do.
I only really want the poles for piste skiing, so will try to find some folding poles that don't look too out of place.
I doubt I will ever ski tour, but the current situation should increase it's interest.
Hopefully, things will improve soon. |
I really don't understand this post. The BD Whippet is a very specific form of kit for very specific circumstances and you'd have to be googling very obtusely to find it more readily than the many many BD,Leki, Komperdell etc collapsible ski poles.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I love my Black diamond poles with flicklocks - not had any issues with them slipping. However I did think I'd lost one last season and ordered a pair of cheap no-name poles to see me through the final weeks of the season. Those DID slip, no matter how much I tightened screws, and were very annoying. Fortunately I found the missing BD pole and was quickly back to using my old faithfuls.
If you've only used a cheaper pair with dodgy 'locks', you could be forgiven that slip is inherent in the design and that you need something different, instead of just a good-quality implementation. Buy a BD pair (or other top-rated/recommended brand) and you'll be fine.
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(Dave of the Marmottes), sorry, I had looked at so many without finding what I wanted, I ended up looking at the Whippet, and stopped at that point, as I had probably seen most things available, and know from research what it's uses might be for (not currently mine) maybe the hyperlink shouldn't be one there (unless someone buys one because of it (or the newer version, in that case it's great)).
I have seen you can get various foldable 3 section trekking poles with cork handles, I like them but they are not aimed at skiers. I don't want to be considered a misfit. Most of the Leki Poles look good from their website, I will probably go that route.
Anyway thank you for your answers, I will get some fairly soon.
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I don't want to be the asshole but flicklock style poles are literally available everywhere like
https://www.sportsdirect.com/karrimor-carbon-walking-poles-784002
They won't be the best but they'll be fine for most skiers and the are £35.
And literally no-one cares about what sort of poles someone else had. Most people who do the most skiing will probably have a mismatched pair with one found from a skip or on the mountain in summer etc.
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@alienhead, Just as an aside -- if you really want to, as the thread starter, you can change the thread title.
Just click on the edit button (right hand side, middle button) in your first post ; the 'title' will then be editable
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| alienhead wrote: |
| I use the 1 piece poles when travelling with skis, the adjustable poles when travelling with short skis. |
When you say 'short skis', how short are we talking? If it's blades then you're already going to look like a misfit by using poles with them.
FWIW I'd avoid expensive poles, I had a nice set of Leki Varios which I was given and then broke due to an unfortunate lift incident where I was paying more attention to my 8yo nephew than where my poles were. Subsequently the following day my brother had his poles (and the 20euro ones I'd got as a replacement for my broken ones) nicked from outside a restaurant. Try googling 'ski touring poles' you may not tour but that's going to be the description closest to what you want
And hats off to whoever did the superb photoshop effort in that Amazon link 
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| alienhead wrote: |
Thank you for your answers.
(sugarmoma666) I use the 1 piece poles when travelling with skis, the adjustable poles when travelling with short skis.
I saw the short ski's as more convenient when travelling to the resort, thinking that if used effectively they might provide a good skiing experience (similar to longer ski's).
They do, I like them. I have seen people advise against using poles at all with short ski's, but find they are necessary for balance (leaning back on (this might have caused the reduction in length)), without them, would probably fall over more. I prefer the longer ski experience, but find travel to the resort difficult, all that equipment really weighs a lot. My short ski's perform well even on difficult runs, but for the hardest runs, yes longer ski's are a more stable, more robust option.
(PowderAdict) I think my current adjustable poles use flick locks, the other option, wire and push button systems, sounds like it might be what I want, I will research that more.
Thanks for the other answers, will research them as well.
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why not hire some ski's (and hence poles) in resort if your flying, if being weighed down with equipment is the issue. Unless your driving to a resort / leaving ski's at your own property in resort, hiring ski's makes so much more sense than lugging your own around or skiing on blades.
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