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The end of the bacon sandwich on the drive to the alps

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The poster shared by @Claude B is interesting especially for the * text. A list of non-EU countries where you're specifically allowed to bring a bacon sandwich or similar for the journey. A deal should include adding the UK to that list of countries. Unfortunately our leader seems more interested in revoking fishing quotas that have been bought by EU residents than in getting a deal that allows easy trade and travel between Great Britain and the EU.

If Johnson doesn't agree a deal, then presumably you'll still be able to complete a customs declaration for your bacon sandwich.
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the additional countries with a * are basically the EEA countries and the microstates
we could join the EEA and still honour the exact wording of the referendum Wink

either way, don't blame the EU for punishing us. the blame lies fair and square with those that voted for this, and those that lied on TV for 40 years.
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don't blame the EU for punishing us

I dont think they are trying to punish us. I think they are simply saying "this is what you wanted".

The whole fiasco does appear to be hotting up with the East Coast fishing communities suddenly realising that they will face tarrifs exporting their seafood. The real winners in this whole affair will be the fish and lobsters. With British gun boats keeping French and Belgian boats from their tradditional waters and British fishermen being unable to sell their product the fish will be left to happily swim about and procreate.
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@andy, the EU isn’t “punishing” anyone. The UK is getting all that it asked for.

Rejoice in your new found sovereignty.

Isn’t it blissful?
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@johnE, “procreate”?

Yikes! Is that what fish do in it?

No wonder I only drink beer.
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@Hells Bells, I think you can take up to 2kg of unopened specialist pet food if it doesn't need to be refrigerated. That would hopefully get over the first day or so.

https://ec.europa.eu/food/animals/animalproducts/personal_imports_en
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@Mr.Egg, I will do if I can find somewhere suitable. Not something I need to think about just yet though.
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@munich_irish, what if the ham is best Spanish iberico and the cheese is French still banned ?
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@vipul, yes, because you would still be importing meat products into the EU. It's not banned, you just need to go through the necessary customs procedures, which is annoying red tape for a lorry full of iberico or brie, and just not worth it for a bacon roll. These are the checks that have caused the government to build a site in Kent that can hold 10,000 lorries while they are processing their paperwork.
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You can actually take 20kg of fish; and wave it out the window as you drive past the protesting French fishermen Laughing
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Take vegan bacon.
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@sno trax, it's the unopened bit and the 2kg limit that is the problem. A 3kg bag is the smallest available.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/11/dutch-officials-seize-ham-sandwiches-from-british-drivers Madeye-Smiley
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It's crazy! As I said before (I think) take sandwich makings - sealed French bread, sealed German ham and Danish butter - then construct your sandwich once in the EU.

I realise this is ludicrous - it is what it is... UK asked for it to be this way.
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So I can take smoked salmon, but can I take bread? and no doubt I can't take butter on the bread.
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Scamper wrote:
It's crazy! As I said before (I think) take sandwich makings - sealed French bread, sealed German ham and Danish butter - then construct your sandwich once in the EU.

I realise this is ludicrous - it is what it is... UK asked for it to be this way.


Careful now, you may need special paperwork for your re-imports (in triplicate and different colours)
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ster wrote:
Scamper wrote:
It's crazy! As I said before (I think) take sandwich makings - sealed French bread, sealed German ham and Danish butter - then construct your sandwich once in the EU.

I realise this is ludicrous - it is what it is... UK asked for it to be this way.


Careful now, you may need special paperwork for your re-imports (in triplicate and different colours)



Ha, ha, can you see me running away and screaming!! Confused
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I presume the same confiscation of ham and cheese sandwiches will occur for drivers of vehicles from England, Wales and Scotland travelling to Northern Ireland, since under BoJo's deal Northern Ireland is maintaining EU food controls? Toofy Grin
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Anyone for prawn vol au vents?
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When we've collected food from flexiplus service it's appeared to originate in Europe for both direction of travel in the past, although it's French side of customs post at UK terminal, so could still be technically French Very Happy
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Scamper wrote:
It's crazy! As I said before (I think) take sandwich makings - sealed French bread, sealed German ham and Danish butter - then construct your sandwich once in the EU.

I realise this is ludicrous - it is what it is... UK asked for it to be this way.

Has anyone tested this? It may be logical, but I can't see any exemption based on origin. You are simply not allowed to take any meat or dairy products across the EU border (other than the few exemptions mentioned) without the relevant paperwork.

Bread is acceptable - but I would rather buy it fresh in France!
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Can't wait to see Nigel Farage, who's now resorted to those crappy vlogs, standing on the White Cliffs of Dover with the great British bacon sandwich and pint in hand.......
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Scamper wrote:
It's crazy! As I said before (I think) take sandwich makings - sealed French bread, sealed German ham and Danish butter - then construct your sandwich once in the EU.

I realise this is ludicrous - it is what it is... UK asked for it to be this way.


exactly
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In the USA I bought a bag of cherries in Nevada & had to declare them at a crossing. Handed them back to me & said that I was not supposed to bring fruit into California.

a bag of cherries is going to do very little harm to the California economy, just like a slice of curd pork would do little ham to the EU economy.
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Mr.Egg wrote:
... just like a slice of curd pork would do little ham to the EU economy.


That's the whey to do it. Toofy Grin
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I always take a fair bit of cheddar (as I get it free/cheap from work) with me for our SC trips for cooking purposes, and big bags of cheap pasta etc. I do wonder if I had a few blocks wrapped in my Ski Jacket in my bag deep in the boot with everyone else's bags packed round it whether it would avoid detection!!
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@Mr.Egg, The rules have to start somewhere. Don't like them don't go there.
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@dunc999, just wait till the EU customs get trained sniffer dogs to sniff out cheddar, stilton or Melton Mowbray pork pies! Wink
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dunc999 wrote:
I always take a fair bit of cheddar (as I get it free/cheap from work) with me for our SC trips for cooking purposes, and big bags of cheap pasta etc. I do wonder if I had a few blocks wrapped in my Ski Jacket in my bag deep in the boot with everyone else's bags packed round it whether it would avoid detection!!


I would recommend trimming it into blocks that will fit inside your boots. That way the cheesy smell will not raise suspicions. HTH
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dunc999 wrote:
I always take a fair bit of cheddar (as I get it free/cheap from work) with me for our SC trips for cooking purposes, and big bags of cheap pasta etc. I do wonder if I had a few blocks wrapped in my Ski Jacket in my bag deep in the boot with everyone else's bags packed round it whether it would avoid detection!!


I would recommend trimming it into blocks that will fit inside your boots. That way the cheesy smell will not raise suspicions. HTH


And the cheese may even increase in aroma.... Madeye-Smiley
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I'd accepted the tax on importing goods, I'd made peace with the weakened position of trade, but this is beyond the pale. No more taking real bacon on skiing trips?!!


http://youtube.com/v/XvuM3DjvYf0?t=74
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Mr.Egg wrote:


In the USA I bought a bag of cherries in Nevada & had to declare them at a crossing. Handed them back to me & said that I was not supposed to bring fruit into California.

a bag of cherries is going to do very little harm to the California economy, just like a slice of curd pork would do little ham to the EU economy.

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Mr.Egg wrote:
Scamper wrote:
It's crazy! As I said before (I think) take sandwich makings - sealed French bread, sealed German ham and Danish butter - then construct your sandwich once in the EU.

I realise this is ludicrous - it is what it is... UK asked for it to be this way.


exactly
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In the USA I bought a bag of cherries in Nevada & had to declare them at a crossing. Handed them back to me & said that I was not supposed to bring fruit into California.

a bag of cherries is going to do very little harm to the California economy, just like a slice of curd pork would do little ham to the EU economy.


This is not an apple to apple comparison. Try flying to the US from the UK and bring any meat/dairy/fruits. They will be confiscated immediately. State to state transport is comparable to intra EU state transport.

In fact, if one brings these items and don’t declare them, they’ll revoke the Global Entry trusted membership (if you have one), gives you a fine and the passport is flagged for secondary inspection in the future. There are plenty of public accessible data on their gov website whenever they revoke memberships for not declaring food. Same with Canada.

Within EEA, everyone needs to meet the same bio regulations so there’s no need to screen food coming from the EEA. It’s a whole different ballgame being outside.

Another problem with pork product is that pork diseases tend to spread so quickly and destroy the entire industry that authorities cannot do anything about it. Thus, Taiwan will deny entry and fine travellers for bringing any pork product for fear of African swine fever.


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DJL wrote:
dunc999 wrote:
I always take a fair bit of cheddar (as I get it free/cheap from work) with me for our SC trips for cooking purposes, and big bags of cheap pasta etc. I do wonder if I had a few blocks wrapped in my Ski Jacket in my bag deep in the boot with everyone else's bags packed round it whether it would avoid detection!!


I would recommend trimming it into blocks that will fit inside your boots. That way the cheesy smell will not raise suspicions. HTH


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They could operate a Ham-nesty system at point of entry, exchanging ham for euro based, pork based product Very Happy

Wonder if we'd achieve parity in pork exchange, or maybe get more pork if we paid in Danish rashers Toofy Grin
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Mr.Egg wrote:

exactly
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That argument is as dumb as a bag of spanners. Most countries have prohibitions on the personal import of certain things, meat and dairy products being pretty frequent. The UK has a number of such restrictions. As Mr.Egg reports, in the USA there are even restrictions at the state level. So this is not EU bureaucracy, this is the way many countries operate their borders.

Except. Except, except, except. The EU have swept away this bureaucracy for EU members, which as a former member we used to benefit from. And now we don't because we decided to be a Third Country, with all the bureaucracy that goes with it.

So, dumb as a bag of spanners, as usual.
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Mr.Egg wrote:

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In the USA I bought a bag of cherries in Nevada & had to declare them at a crossing. Handed them back to me & said that I was not supposed to bring fruit into California.


That's typical of the EU, meddling with the restrictions on crossing state lines in the US
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rob@rar wrote:
... this is not EU bureaucracy, this is the way many countries operate their borders.
... The EU have swept away this bureaucracy for EU members, which as a former member we used to benefit from. ..

The UK voted to leave the EU's strong and secure borders to set up their own area with different "sovereign" rules.
That was the whole point of the anti-EU campaign.

Yet now the anti-EU people don't like what they themselves voted for?

Wait until the GDP hit starts to really bite.
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Have your bacon roll on the ferry or the airplane if you must - but i'd rather have a coffee and fresh croissant, or filled baguette at the first stop once across the channel. C'est la vie!
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rob@rar wrote:
... As Mr.Egg reports, in the USA there are even restrictions at the state level. So this is not EU bureaucracy, this is the way many countries operate their borders...
Just remembered that the UK also has internal restriction on the movement of some goods GB -> NI as a result of us leaving the EU, but that these rules do not apply NI -> EU.

Dumb as a bag of spanners.
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