France returns to lockdown

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Well said. Certain posters (and even Admin, I recall) seem to assume that only Guardianista political opinions are acceptable.

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Thanks mitcva .Many Brits frequent these messageboards, and have had to read about how bad its been to leave the beloved EU even after the majority of UK voted to leave.

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The UK early response led us to from a .country with relatively few cases to having the highest rate in Europe.
Whilst Europe had locked down, the Cheltneham Festicaland and Crufts took place - Cummings citing herd immunity etc.

We 've done well with the vaccine as.Oxford led the way.
Let's not forget that tha manority of Scientific research in Oxford iver the past 20 years has beem funded by the EU.

Covid, lockdown and it's management over Christmas was totally about releasing information and directives so as to provide the biggest possible smokecreen to smother the Brexit deal release and protect Boris from his own ERG back stabbers.
The whole things has been a national disgrace

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@saintnickle, have you joined just to spout this dangly bits? There are many here fighting that cause already, in many cases far more intelligently than your initial efforts. All you're doing atm is reinforcing views that the average Brexiteer has a pitifully low IQ.

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@cameronphillips2000, that.

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And the Remainers wonder why they lost...

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So, what about lockdown in France?

After all it is free

Just got a missive from Peak Retreats for next season. Tempting. But at what point this year will we know if France will be open for the 2021/2 season?

@holidayloverxx, exactly. No changes since those announced a couple of days ago. It's hard wink

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@saintnickle, you are welcome to spout whatever tripe you want about Brexit. You will not be the only one. But it would be courteous not to spread it over irrelevant threads. This thread is about lockdown in France, oddly enough.

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You know it makes sense.

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Can I suggest a new candidate for a crevasse visit if the mods are awake this evening?

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This Forum is fast being ruined by a recent influx of trolls. I fear that unless the mods start acting soon, old timers will start to leave.

Please excuse the thread drift!

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@achilles, that. Well said.

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Is there some change to the French travel regulations coming? Verbier was crawling with French (and Germans and Italians) today.

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My apologies, since I am one of those who responded above to discussion points on this thread without noticing how big the drift had become.

But I do value it continuing to do what it says on the label. Some of us optimists continue trying to read the entrails not just for what we might be allowed to do at the UK end, but whether there is a compensating relaxation feasible at the French end. This thread has provided important information from people on the ground in various resorts, and is valued for that.

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https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/was-this-the-reason-macron-avoided-ordering-a-third-covid-lockdown-

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Definitely more people around this week judging by the various parking areas using those as a barometer.

Also seems to be many a group of students out and about walking around in groups of 10+ or so, so they must be staying in apartments/Gites etc

I think the next four weeks we'll see a lot of people visiting.

From the Connexion

Holidays will so far be possible across France this February - despite Covid - as there are currently no restrictions on movement between regions, although this “may still change”, ministers have said.

February holidays for schools in Zone A begin this weekend. Zone B will begin on February 20, and Zone C on February 13.

Junior Tourism Minister Jean-Baptiste Lemoyne told news channel BFMTV: “Today, going on holiday is possible. Today, there are no restrictions on movement between regions.”

This morning, delegate minister for housing Emmanuelle Wargon said: “For the moment, there are no restrictions on movement. Holidays can take place.”

Yet, ministers have been clear that the rules on travel may change in the near-future due to the constantly-changing health situation.

Ms Wargon said: “ Of course, our decisions change every few days, as the virus changes. Today, we have announced no restrictions for the school holidays, but as usual, things can always change.”

Mr Lemoyne said: “We are monitoring the health situation every day. The numbers will dictate what happens next. We will be extremely vigilant. If there is another lockdown, naturally everyone will need to stay at home.”

He called on the public to be responsible.

He said: “During this period, responsibility is in the hands of each person. The government has acted with confidence in collective responsibility [in not imposing a third lockdown yet].”

During previous lockdowns, restrictions have included not being able to travel further than 100km around your home. There has been no confirmation of whether this rule would be re-imposed on the country in the event of another lockdown.

So far, France has not chosen to impose a third lockdown, although the Health Minister Olivier Veran has said that the country will “not wait” to impose stricter measures if the health data demands it.

The government is set to hold a defence council meeting tomorrow, with the possibility of a third lockdown expected to be one of the topics of discussion.

And Macron has called a Conseil de défense Sanitaire - a meeting where top ministers, including the president, discuss coronavirus-related matters - for Wednesday (February 3).

It will be a brave move to introduce travel restrictions so late in the day, but you can't help thinking that's what should be done, but for the French, they just have to take their holidays regardless of the outcome, I presume no worse than the staycation back in the UK, but February Half Term is not just a big deal in the UK unlike here.

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Lots of inferences in that, "yet, today, at the moment, will not wait........"
We'll see later
If he's going to impose a 3rd lockdown, he should've done it a week ago to give the tourists a chance to sort their holidays out...........
Cue anarchy

Thought I'd share this as some may not be aware of the actual figures, as you can see the trend is going up (22k Jan 1 26k Feb 1), with more daily cases than the UK now, so you can understand why people are questioning the strategy, all very familiar etc etc

You know it makes sense.

love the way that that they clearly struggle to report sundays numbers, you would expect a small drop but not 80%

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To support Weathercam's report I have been informed of a booking for my chalet for the 20th Feb.
It would seem the French are looking for a change of scenery even if the lifts are not open.

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@BergenBergen, 12.00 - 14.00 ??? have they cut their lunches to just two hours due to covid? Laughing

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@ajc2260626, you're forgetting that shops have to close early now due to the curfew, but that still doesn't stop them closing for lunch for two hours rolling eyes

And if the snow-gods played ball by bringing the forecast 5-6hrs earlier on Saturday then the potential for snowmageddon would ensure some form of lock-down Laughing

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Anyone in Morzine, what's it like? Is there border hopping to Morgins and the like? That little pass would be very easy to police.

I have residency and a property to use out there so I'm allowed over if I want, by the current rules. Will cost a bomb, though, and French-side lifts are obviously all shut. 6pm curfew sounds horrendous, as well.

Would you guys go if you could?

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Nice @Weathercam, though from a UK perspective France have done pretty well following that scare at the end of October. By contrast the UK controlled their lesser surge around the same time with a lockdown then immediately took off the brakes (especially in London, where hospitality re-opened) and cases rocketed four-fold in a month. Keeping it down to just a gentle increase when the weather is likely to favour transmission suggests they have done well.

The apparent weekend drop is at least a cause for gentle humour (thanks @BergenBergen) but I assume 7-day averaging generates more representative trands. (The same happens with UK death data; having learnt about death certification dealing with my mother it seems normal in hospitals for initial certificates to be reviewed by a second doctor before issue, and that counts as an administrative task to be done in regular weekday hours).

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Well back to my favourite subject, just to get @WindOfChange, going Laughing

Was out and about yesterday, and I'd guesstimate that 2 out of 3 cars, of which there were many on the road were from outside the area, and that was a Thursday and saw this in the Weather thread which might explain the influx.

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