 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi Guys
My first post here but I understand there are some gurus on the Forum. I am looking to buy a pair of All Mountain skis, but they have a 122mm waist. I have a pair of touring skis but it would be great to set my new pair up so as to be able to use off piste also. The question is does anyone know of a hybrid binding that has a 125mm crampon?? I thought I'd found the perfect match in the Salomon Shift S/Lab but the widest crampon they have is 120!!
Any advice much appreciated
Kind regards
Sean
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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can't help
would you really want to be touring on skis that wide if conditions were icy? Would have thought they were early season powder touring rather than spring/neve conditions?
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I suspect the 120 shift crampons will fit. If you look on The Piste Office website Jon says they measure 125/126mm. I have some 100mm Shift crampons that fit my 102 underfoot skis.
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| MyKeg wrote: |
| I suspect the 120 shift crampons will fit. If you look on The Piste Office website Jon says they measure 125/126mm. I have some 100mm Shift crampons that fit my 102 underfoot skis. |
Yeah, I'd expect there to be a bit of clearance there. Should be enough to work for you but probably best to ask Jon. He'll probably be along soon.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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122 is pretty generous for an 'all mountain' ski by anyone's measure!
I had a pair of BnD ski crampons from Spyderjon/The Piste Office to fit the Dynafits on my old 120mm Lotus 120s; maybe they have a version for the Shift too. But honestly it's gotta be really really rare to go skinning in conditions you'll need ski crampons with 120mm skis! At least I never did again after the first time 
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^^^^^ +1
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| Tom Doc wrote: |
| MyKeg wrote: |
| I suspect the 120 shift crampons will fit. If you look on The Piste Office website Jon says they measure 125/126mm. I have some 100mm Shift crampons that fit my 102 underfoot skis. |
Yeah, I'd expect there to be a bit of clearance there. Should be enough to work for you but probably best to ask Jon. He'll probably be along soon. |
Thanks - I will check the Piste Office site
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can't you bend most ski crampons wider anyway?
Have seen that so they can be packed more compactly one inside the other
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| SBP wrote: |
| can't you bend most ski crampons wider anyway? Have seen that so they can be packed more compactly one inside the other |
Nope as they're heat treated ir anodized so are harder than a hard thing on a hard day. And if you do actually get them to bend they'll likely crack. If positioned spikes to spikes and slightly offset then crampons will lock in to each other for compact enough storage in their bag.
Wall thickness on the stiffening webs on the inside of the legs is usually sufficient to allow for dremmeling off half a mm each side if a tad more clearance is required.
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@Seancurtis, https://www.thepisteoffice.com/index.php/the-piste-office-store/alpine-touring-bindings/salomon/shift-crampon-120mm-detail.html
Ski dimensions are often fairly nominal, especially if the manufacturer is keeping the radius the same across the different lengths of the ski - meaning that the width underfoot will change with length etc. If however the radius of the ski changes with length then that usually means that the width underfoot is the same on each length as they rarely change the tip &/or tail dims. So do your homework.
Another factor as to whether a crampon will fit is its fore/aft position on the ski (which is boot sole length dependent) relative to the waist location of the ski. And the shorter the radius of the ski and the longer the bsl the more this comes in to play, especially on a more central mount position often found on rockered tail ski. A wide ski would usually have a long radius but not always, ie DPS combine width and short radii on many of their models.
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| spyderjon wrote: |
| SBP wrote: |
| can't you bend most ski crampons wider anyway? Have seen that so they can be packed more compactly one inside the other |
Nope as they're heat treated ir anodized so are harder than a hard thing on a hard day. And if you do actually get them to bend they'll likely crack. If positioned spikes to spikes and slightly offset then crampons will lock in to each other for compact enough storage in their bag.
Wall thickness on the stiffening webs on the inside of the legs is usually sufficient to allow for dremmeling off half a mm each side if a tad more clearance is required. |
Whoops...... 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@spyderjon Thank you so much and apologies for the delay in thanking you.
Right, with that puzzle solved, the next question is I am thinking about buying the Dynafit speed turn 2.0 for my Scott Missions, the only concern I have is whether the 10 DIN max is too low, I'm a 92kg charger who tours for the down rather than the up. They are a really good price (circa £200) and not a lot of competition as far as I can see (perhaps the Marker alipinist 12 being closest at about £260)
Really interested to know what would any of you about my weight go for?
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You know it makes sense.
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@Seancurtis, The Speed Turn 2.0 is very reliable but is old tech, ie high delta angle and lack of longitudinal elasticity. I'd go Alpinist every time compared to the Turn 2.0.
However, I assume that your Missions have existing mounting holes in them? If so then your choice of potential bindings is going to dependent upon which make/model won't clash with the existing holes. A retailer specialising in this type of kit () can advise what'll work but will need to know the make/model of binding that the existing mount was for, the boot sole length it was mounted for and the boot sole length the new binding will be mounted for (if different).
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Ha ha Jon - well put! I'll dig them out today and then try and work out a day in jan when i could get up to you 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Hi Jon - Fritschi Experience set for a Salomon 29, but hoping to snare some Scarpa's depending on fit, they may be 28.5
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Need the existing boot sole length in mm not the mondo size. And need to know what frame length the Experience is. And a Scarpa is 28.5 would be a 29 in any other brand as just to awkward Scarpa change shell on the half size.
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