@AndreSilva, I’ve got all the Flight Deck Prizm lenses, and I’ve never needed anything darker than the Sapphire, Torch, Jade. At the low light end, I’ve got the Rose, Hi-Pink and Hi-Yellow. I prefer the Hi-Yellow to the Hi-Pink when it’s really snowing, and the Rose for when it’s dull but not snowing. If your going for two lenses, the one of the middle 3, and the Hi-Pink would be my choices, as the Hi-Yellow is painful if there is any sun at all.
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Hmmm... just checking Oakley website, apparently there is a new lens called "Persimmon" that it is even more clear than the Hi Pink.
Have anyone tried that one ?
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PowderAdict wrote:
@AndreSilva, I’ve got all the Flight Deck Prizm lenses, and I’ve never needed anything darker than the Sapphire, Torch, Jade. At the low light end, I’ve got the Rose, Hi-Pink and Hi-Yellow. I prefer the Hi-Yellow to the Hi-Pink when it’s really snowing, and the Rose for when it’s dull but not snowing. If your going for two lenses, the one of the middle 3, and the Hi-Pink would be my choices, as the Hi-Yellow is painful if there is any sun at all.
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Nice that you have them all, so you can adivse us all
Do you see much difference between Sapphire, Torch, Jade ? Which one would u go for the everyday ski ?
@AndreSilva, it's important to remember that everyone's eyes are different. I tried both yellow lenses and rose lenses in flat light, neither did the job. Yet the High Pink are great. Other people swear by yellow lenses for flat light. It really does depend upon how your eyes react to tints etc.
The first pair of goggles I bought were a cheapish pair off Amazon. They got good reviews. They don't fog up. Great in bright light; worse than useless in flat light. So I tried someone's Oakley Rose Prizms in flat light. They just didn't work for me. Yet the owner of the goggles got on great with them.
My advice would be to try other peoples goggles when you are on the slopes in different light conditions then, and only then can you be sure those lenses will work for you.
As others have said, the Sapphire, Torch and Jade are all pretty much the same, and cover most conditions. Just a question of what colour you like.
I have Flight Deck goggles and 3 lenses:
Black: Very bright light — spring, at the top of the mountain
Sapphire — pretty universal, sun, sun/cloud, cloud
Hi Pink — for low light and whiteouts.
I really practiced swapping the lenses in and out of the goggles; but this is *really* tricky even at home, never mind on a mountainside when it's snowing and getting dark.
So my solution is to have 2 goggles and 3 lenses. Thus, in the morning I can look at the forecast, and what's I'm doing that day, and decide what to do. I always have the Sapphire; so it's just a question of putting the Black or the Hi Pink lenses into the 2nd goggles. And I have some simple, thin cotton gloves off eBay to stop them getting all covered in fingerprints when I swap them out.
Then I pop the 2nd goggle into my backpack — but be careful, if you don't watch out, you can break them when sitting on a chair lift and leaning back.
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Does anyone make decent photochromatic lens goggles? I used to have a pair of Bolle nova with a such a lens and they were okay I suppose.... Just wondered if the lens technology had progressed at all?
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Great! Now try to buy a pair....
Indeed... I would love that, but apparently it's not going to be released this year
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Poogle wrote:
Here is a good video from Oakley explaining the difference between the various PRIZM Iridium lenses:
As others have said, the Sapphire, Torch and Jade are all pretty much the same, and cover most conditions. Just a question of what colour you like.
I have Flight Deck goggles and 3 lenses:
Black: Very bright light — spring, at the top of the mountain
Sapphire — pretty universal, sun, sun/cloud, cloud
Hi Pink — for low light and whiteouts.
I really practiced swapping the lenses in and out of the goggles; but this is *really* tricky even at home, never mind on a mountainside when it's snowing and getting dark.
So my solution is to have 2 goggles and 3 lenses. Thus, in the morning I can look at the forecast, and what's I'm doing that day, and decide what to do. I always have the Sapphire; so it's just a question of putting the Black or the Hi Pink lenses into the 2nd goggles. And I have some simple, thin cotton gloves off eBay to stop them getting all covered in fingerprints when I swap them out.
Then I pop the 2nd goggle into my backpack — but be careful, if you don't watch out, you can break them when sitting on a chair lift and leaning back.
Nice video, thanks!
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@AndreSilva, use the search facility for 'Oakley lenses' . There was a detailed thread last year I believe with frim advice for which two lenses.
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I would *not* go for the Black Iridium if you are only going to buy 2 lenses.
As you can see from my post above, I have 3 lenses: Black, Sapphire and Hi Pink. I have only used the Black a few times — when it's been towards spring with the sun high in the ski, midday, and high in the mountains. The rest of the time, the Sapphire is fine. The Hi Pink is very useful towards dusk, low-light and when it's snowing.
Your go-to lenses will be one of: Sapphire, Torch or Jade. You will use one of those say 75% of the time.
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Poogle wrote:
@AndreSilva,
I would *not* go for the Black Iridium if you are only going to buy 2 lenses.
As you can see from my post above, I have 3 lenses: Black, Sapphire and Hi Pink. I have only used the Black a few times — when it's been towards spring with the sun high in the ski, midday, and high in the mountains. The rest of the time, the Sapphire is fine. The Hi Pink is very useful towards dusk, low-light and when it's snowing.
Your go-to lenses will be one of: Sapphire, Torch or Jade. You will use one of those say 75% of the time.
Totally agree with this. I used the Jade in Austria this Feb in blue sky sunny conditions all week (bar the last day), and I never felt I needed the Black, and I have sensitive eyes. The last day was pretty grey and dull, overcast with rain at village level, and the Jade was still fine - could I have done with a Rose or Hi Pink that last day ? Maybe, but I never felt disadvantaged with just the Jade.
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I love the Prizm Black Iridium and use them most of the time. I have sensitive eyes though. Not massively sensitive just a bit. Prizm Rose is the other lens I use when the sun refuses to come out.
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Is anyone potentially interested in buying a pair of brand new, in box, Dragon X2 goggles with a choice of 4 brand new Lumalens lenses?
Well, as the Prizm React is not coming out this season, I decided to go for the flight deck with Saphire Iridium and Persimmon.
I planned to get the Hi Pink instead of the Persimmon, but apparently it has been discontinued and the Persimmon has the same low light target as the Hi Pink.
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Isn't the persimmon the same as the old non-prizm "default low-light" ?
If so, I'd say it was a backward step compared to the hi-pink or prizm rose.
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Not a bad choice as such, I just think it's a bit old school as far as lens colour has evolved.
It shouldn't be to hard to find a pair with hi-pink if that's the colour you want, as its probably the least popular as a single lens .
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Roguevfr wrote:
Not a bad choice as such, I just think it's a bit old school as far as lens colour has evolved.
It shouldn't be to hard to find a pair with hi-pink if that's the colour you want, as its probably the least popular as a single lens .
Yeah... In fact there is only one available at oakley and in major dutch retailers, but tje frame is too pink for me
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AndreSilva wrote:
Roguevfr wrote:
Not a bad choice as such, I just think it's a bit old school as far as lens colour has evolved.
It shouldn't be to hard to find a pair with hi-pink if that's the colour you want, as its probably the least popular as a single lens .
Yeah... In fact there is only one available at oakley and in major dutch retailers, but tje frame is too pink for me
The Prizm Hi-Pink is a great Overcast/Storm lens - but not a good all rounder........The Prizm Rose would be much better in that regard.
If you like a mirror finish - then look at Torch/Sapphire/Jade...also a decent all condition lens, but with a sun bias.
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Plenty on Ebay.co.uk , £139 with hi-pink, xm or original on there.
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AndreSilva wrote:
Roguevfr wrote:
Not a bad choice as such, I just think it's a bit old school as far as lens colour has evolved.
It shouldn't be to hard to find a pair with hi-pink if that's the colour you want, as its probably the least popular as a single lens .
Yeah... In fact there is only one available at oakley and in major dutch retailers, but tje frame is too pink for me
The Prizm Hi-Pink is a great Overcast/Storm lens - but not a good all rounder........The Prizm Rose would be much better in that regard.
If you like a mirror finish - then look at Torch/Sapphire/Jade...also a decent all condition lens, but with a sun bias.
The idea is to get the hi-pink or persimmon AND the sapphire
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AndreSilva wrote:
The idea is to get the hi-pink or persimmon AND the sapphire
Perfect!
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The idea is to get the hi-pink or persimmon AND the sapphire
Yeah, I understand that, but flight decks don't come with 2 lenses, so you're going to have to buy a pair with one lens , and buy the other one you require. If the hi-pink isn't being produced any more, then its presumably going to be harder to get that singly. You'll probably buy a goggle WITH hi-pink installed cheaper than one with the sapphire.
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I bought Oakley goggles for the prism lense quality (which is very good) but changing the lenses is a right pain in the rear...even with practice it is hard to get right (and feels like if you do them too often , they will lose their seating if that makes sense...)
Someone on last years birthday bash had goggles with quick change magnetic lenses and they were much better.
Blister gear raves about Anon goggles which have this system.
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I have the Anon M2 goggles with older lenses - I have a "red sonar" which is a mirrored lens, a lot like the Oakley sapphire, and a yellow lens which is like Oakley's hi-pink. I love my goggles, the magnetic quick change system is easy even one-handed with gloves, and the lenses absolutely never pop out when I don't want them to. The new Anon lenses are made by Zeiss and I believe the optical quality is even better (prices are also a bit higher). I know that the Oakley's are very well-received here, and I haven't compared the two myself, but if I lost my goggles I'd buy the same again.
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I moved from Oakley to Anon; I really like the ability to change the lens quickly.
Can't tell any difference in lens quality either.
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I tried the entire selection at Decathlon & all of them had some restriction of peripheral vision, I stick with my Bolle safety specs from Screwfix, they perform really well, including keeping wind out of my eyes, no restriction of vision and cheap enough to be disposable.
@Mosha Marc, Oakley Flightdeck Prizms take about 15 seconds to change the lens That said I recently bought a second pair of frames with black iridium prizm lens in Snowinn sale, I have hi-pink and also blue sapphire but the foam is a pain when it gets wet (face plant in deep powder), they then steam up so handy for quick swap over if required. Best goggles i've ever had, dont know how folks wear sunnies, eye watering an issue for me when -10C or colder (and also cold face) plus much better peripheral vision in goggles imo.
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@Mosha Marc, Oakley Flightdeck Prizms take about 15 seconds to change the lens That said I recently bought a second pair of frames with black iridium prizm lens in Snowinn sale, I have hi-pink and also blue sapphire but the foam is a pain when it gets wet (face plant in deep powder), they then steam up so handy for quick swap over if required. Best goggles i've ever had, dont know how folks wear sunnies, eye watering an issue for me when -10C or colder (and also cold face) plus much better peripheral vision in goggles imo.
Hmm - 15 seconds ? you must be better than me at changing them... I would say closer to a couple of minutes under no stress in a hotel room... trying to do that on a lift would be nigh on impossible I reckon.
They come off easy - but getting the replacement lense on is not straightforward - getting the edges in correctly takes time.
And by the time you are done - they are covered in fingerprints...
Sunglasses were fine when only wearing these and no helmet. Now with a helmet the air gets 'trapped' in your face area and blows into the eyes way more so goggles all the time for me. (Plus sunglasses and helmets are a no-no obviously.)
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@sheffskibod, I never do it on a lift (involves messing with rucksack etc), always inside a lift station if blowing a hooly or at lunch etc. TBPH not often during the day unless weather really deteriorates quickly, usually can make a decision first thing and stick with it. Seriously really quick - deffo not 2 mins, I'm not over cautious with them, I just rip them open and it's never caused an issue to date.
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I switched from Oakley to Vola and am very happy with them including the ease of changing lenses. They will have a magnetic lens version for this winter too but not tried them.
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@Mosha Marc, Oakley Flightdeck Prizms take about 15 seconds to change the lens That said I recently bought a second pair of frames with black iridium prizm lens in Snowinn sale, I have hi-pink and also blue sapphire but the foam is a pain when it gets wet (face plant in deep powder), they then steam up so handy for quick swap over if required. Best goggles i've ever had, dont know how folks wear sunnies, eye watering an issue for me when -10C or colder (and also cold face) plus much better peripheral vision in goggles imo.
Hi Marky!
is Snowinn legit/reliable ? I saw some nice sales in there, but I never bought anything. Do you recommend it ?
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AndreSilva wrote:
Markymark29 wrote:
@Mosha Marc, Oakley Flightdeck Prizms take about 15 seconds to change the lens That said I recently bought a second pair of frames with black iridium prizm lens in Snowinn sale, I have hi-pink and also blue sapphire but the foam is a pain when it gets wet (face plant in deep powder), they then steam up so handy for quick swap over if required. Best goggles i've ever had, dont know how folks wear sunnies, eye watering an issue for me when -10C or colder (and also cold face) plus much better peripheral vision in goggles imo.
Hi Marky!
is Snowinn legit/reliable ? I saw some nice sales in there, but I never bought anything. Do you recommend it ?
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That said I recently bought a second pair of frames with black iridium prizm lens in Snowinn sale, I have hi-pink and also blue sapphire but the foam is a pain when it gets wet (face plant in deep powder), they then steam up so handy for quick swap over if required. Best goggles i've ever had, dont know how folks wear sunnies, eye watering an issue for me when -10C or colder (and also cold face) plus much better peripheral vision in goggles imo.