Poster: A snowHead
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I currently ski White Dot R98s fitted with Dynafit Radical 2 STs. My boots are the Dynafit TLT 6. I love this setup for touring but I have found that on hard pistes the skis are clattery and it just sort of feels like I need more power/weight through them to make things work. I'm quite light too (65kg) so I wonder if the whole set-up (including me) is a bit light for in-bounds skiing. I also really struggle to get an edge on icy stuff but that's probably more sh't technique than kit
I'm contemplating options, including getting a separate alpine/downhill setup (second set of boots, narrower skis plus bindings) but obviously this is costly. Another idea and maybe a favourite is to switch the bindings from the Rad 2s to the Shifts with Quiver Killers, change the TLT6 for something compatible and still lightweight for touring and get a second pair of stiff alpine boots. This would enable me to ski the 98s hard off the lifts but also leave me with a decent light(ish) touring setup. I could then also grab a second set of skis that are narrower if I feel I need it in the future and thus end up with a hard and soft snow ski with a shared binding.
Any advice or thoughts?
Cheers
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Why not get the skis QK'd for a decent DIN binding, and also QK the Rad2 holes. Then buy a piste boot and you have a tech and DIN set up for the R98. Then if you fancy a skinny piste ski you can add that later and just get it QC'd for the DIN binding which you can share between that and the R98's.
PS are the R98s trad or CL?
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In your shoes I would buy an alpine setup.
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I too have R98s with Radical 2 STs and reasonably stiff boots. I don't find the bindings are a limiting factor. I know what you mean for a day on pistes, the set up is a bit limiting if I want to blast around and maximise amount of descent in a day, I used to have Whitedot Ones (89 under foot) which were a bit better in this respect. However I am happy to compromise in having a single ski with the R98s that does everything well if not the best for on piste. If I was able to spend more time skiing I would get a separate alpine ski and binding, narrow with metal in them for stiffness for piste only days, or at least hire them for a week (if compatible with my Technica Cochise Pro-lite soles)
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Sounds like technique is the limiting factor but if you want to buy some shiny new kit go for it
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@nosiesta, It's the TLT6's that are the weak link as they're 100 flex (at best and no stiffer laterally) but also have a bit a lower cuff so even though you're light they're not going to be great at driving a wider ski.
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midgetbiker wrote: |
Why not get the skis QK'd for a decent DIN binding, and also QK the Rad2 holes. Then buy a piste boot and you have a tech and DIN set up for the R98. Then if you fancy a skinny piste ski you can add that later and just get it QC'd for the DIN binding which you can share between that and the R98's.
PS are the R98s trad or CL? |
Good idea, I honestly didn't know you could drill a ski twice at the same time with QK.
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spyderjon wrote: |
@nosiesta, It's the TLT6's that are the weak link as they're 100 flex (at best and no stiffer laterally) but also have a bit a lower cuff so even though you're light they're not going to be great at driving a wider ski. |
Thanks for this. I love the boot for touring. It would be a trade off replacing it with a stiffer and I suppose heavier boot that'd do both. Perhaps the double QK option is a good one.
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If they fit your feet, I have found Technica Zero G are both fairly light (1.5kg/boot from memory) for touring and stiff enough for downhill.
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@nosiesta, I'm only a few kg heavier than you and the R98/Radical 2 combo works for my weight. I'm not familiar with the TLT 6 but a cheap fix may be to replace the top strap with a powerstrap. It worked on my Technica pro-lights (predecessor of the Zero G but different fit) to increase the stiffness to that of a standard Cochise 120 but still really easy to tour in. Otherwise shop around for the newer light weight freeride / touring boots, may be the cheapest and simplest solution?
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@nosiesta, It's the TLT6's that are the weak link as they're 100 flex (at best and no stiffer laterally) but also have a bit a lower cuff so even though you're light they're not going to be great at driving a wider ski.
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That's what I think.
I gave up on skiing a similar boot for lift served / side country on my R108s because they just didn't offer enough support (particular height but also stiffness).
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You know it makes sense.
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So essentially it’s either a new do-all boot, prob a lightweight freestyle, or an alipine binding and boot with QK on this and the Rad2s. Hmmm. Too many options!
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nosiesta wrote: |
spyderjon wrote: |
@nosiesta, It's the TLT6's that are the weak link as they're 100 flex (at best and no stiffer laterally) but also have a bit a lower cuff so even though you're light they're not going to be great at driving a wider ski. |
Thanks for this. I love the boot for touring. It would be a trade off replacing it with a stiffer and I suppose heavier boot that'd do both. Perhaps the double QK option is a good one. |
Keep the TLT’s for touring and get a decent Freeride Boot for lift served and piste.
And then start building up your quiver with increasingly fat skis
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I would have thought that at 65kg, you're always going to find it hard work to rail a 98mm ski or get an edge on icy pistes - regardless of how magical White Dots are, that's a wide ski for a little person . The binding won't be the weak link though.
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I don't agree at 68 kg on R98s, unweighting then weighting helps, particulary when need to tighten the curve as R98 has quite a long radius
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Kooky is only 52kg and skis well on Whitedot Director carbonlites at 108mm but then she is using a 110 flex alpine boot, with her much softer touring boots it's harder to get a decent edge in. She does much prefer Atomic Access skis for heavier snow or crud as the lighter skis get chucked round a lot. You do need to be quite a good technical skier to carve fat skis well and as said above, they are damned hard work on the legs for long piste runs.
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