Poster: A snowHead
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Any one got any experience with these 94cm. I have been offered some at a good price but feel they may be a little stiff and heavy for me. I am 90KG and 186cm tall. intermediate/advanced skier. Not expert. Wanting to get some off piste lessons in feb . I have always messed around off piste prefer it to the crowded piste but want to get better. Any advise gratefully recieved.
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I assume you mean the 194cm?
They are a true expert big mountain ski, I think at that point full camber (without rocker) and with a ~40m turn radius.
I would advise against
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@bigtoe, I would still think they will be way more work than most expert offpiste skiers would want these days and definitely not conducive to learning, especially if you end up in any tight spots or tree skiing. They're in the top 5 'most chargey' freeride skis ever made, maybe top 3.
Something like the Rossignol Soul 7 will make life much easier and you should be able to find good deals on previous season's versions.
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@clarky999, excellent many thanks for the advise ill have a scout around for a pair. I assume 190 cm and above or could i get away with sub 190cm would you think ?
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I have a pair of these at the back of my cupboard. Clarky is right- these are not skis to learn on (except that if you can get remotely decent results on them, pretty much any ski will seem easy afterwards!)
If you were already a super-strong skier and wanted something which would allow you to charge all the time, you might give these a go, but even comp skiers ride friendlier skis these days.
I am on OK but not great skier and had some fun days on these but decided my ego was writing cheques my body couldn’t cash and went for something a bit more playful.
All that said, you can have mine for £50 if you really are a masochist
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Rossi Soul 7 is a good shout. There are now lots of lightweight, user friendly off-piste tools around making these ultra-stiff chargers from the recent past obsolete for pretty much everyone and certainly more average skiers. They updated the construction of the Soul 7 both this season and last season too - both with "HD" suffix added. The ones from 2+ years ago (non-HD) were a bit softer and even easier to use. So you might want to look for a pair of those. They were very popular, so no shortage around.
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My local skishop was selling a pair of Stockli Stormrider DP Pros at a knockdown price. Gave them a stroke then told myself not to be so silly
Think I'd feel the same way about Legend Pros.
These days if I was wanting to get into off piste I'd definitely go for a modern shape with twin rocker like the Soul 7.
As @Arno, suggests, even the pros ski easier skis these days - White Dot sponsored the women's freeride wc and she was on Redeemers which are WAY more forgiving and playful than Legend Pros (even I look OK on them!)
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Thanks chaps
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@clarky999, out if interest I agree with legend pros being in the list of most chargey skis so what would be the top 3?.
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@meandrew, by reputation only: whitedot ragnarok (1st gen), Faction 13, Salomon el Dictator? Discuss.
There is a market for these things, it just isn't very big. Dynastar did a rerun on the LP a year or so ago and they seemed to go pretty quickly.
If you took marketing decisions out of the equation, I suspect athletes would revert to chargier skis.
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meandrew wrote: |
@clarky999, out if interest I agree with legend pros being in the list of most chargey skis so what would be the top 3?. |
Interesting question! I was thinking about that too. gorilla already covered most that spring to mind.
In no particular order I'd think:
- Dynastar Legend Pro
- OG Whitedot Ragnarok
- 198 Salomon XW Lab?
- Salomon El Dictator
- Zag H-112?
- Original Head Monsters?
- Faction 13
- Line Mothership?
- Rossi RC112? (I think that's the one I'm thinking of)
- OG 196 Blizzard Bodacious
- Whatever the biggest/fattest Stöckli Stormrider was called - 110 something?
- MOment Garbones/M1
- 196 4FRNT Renegades?
- 198 Völkl Katana
- 202 Down Showdown 105
- Jeremie Heitz's La Liste special edition Scott Scrapper (reliably informed by an ex-Fischer employee that it's stiffer than any GS race ski ever made)
- I'm sure I've read about some of the small US Indies like Igneous (and PM Gear?) making some truly ridiculous skis in their early days too
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You know it makes sense.
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Rossi b squad ? Green flames.
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gorilla wrote: |
If you took marketing decisions out of the equation, I suspect athletes would revert to chargier skis. |
Hmm not so sure these days. Even the FWT guys are getting a lot more flippy-spinny than pure stomping... Seems like most of the Völkl athletes choose to use the Two/Bash 116/Revolt 124 over the Confession for example, and the Faction guys can do what they want but all ride the stock models.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Whatever the biggest/fattest Stöckli Stormrider was called - 110 something?
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DP Pro 201 I'd have thought
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