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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Try re-naming the thread and posting the link in the reply box 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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"Sorry
We cannot find the page you are looking for."
LOL
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Almost all of those points are first lesson stuff, except the skinning up, funny they are the first points, then the 7th point is how to carry your poles.
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hmmm, their point 9 needs to be combined with the rules (no. 11) 
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Actually thought the poles and skis together carrying thing looked rather clever, can tell im new to all this 
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I think it's a shame that you've posted the link to that. If anyone I was with needed that kind of "advice" I would not want to be within 100 miles of them.
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@andyrew, I think you might have missed the humor somewhere along the line...
For the avoidance of doubt, why would you want to look like anything other than a local when walking around, carry a pimp stick while in a lift queue, and be a good boyfriend when accompanied by one's other half?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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There is also the "heliskier" where the skis are held horizontally at waist height for obvious reasons. This is a habit I have yet to acquire.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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F*** that sh*t. Torygraph has gone Buzzfeed with one uninformative sentence per page for a bollux filler article, Goldsmith must be turning in his yet to reached grave on the decline in ski journalism.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
@andyrew, I think you might have missed the humor somewhere along the line...
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Deary me rob@bar surely I don't have to put everything in tags
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| gorilla wrote: |
| There is also the "heliskier" where the skis are held horizontally at waist height for obvious reasons. This is a habit I have yet to acquire. |
The heliskier wanders slowly somehow maintaining an air of superiority while walking in a crouch and being absolutely terrified, carrying no skis or poles.
His guide drags the skis and poles all tied together in one bunch with a bungie cord.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| gorilla wrote: |
| There is also the "heliskier" where the skis are held horizontally at waist height for obvious reasons. This is a habit I have yet to acquire. |
Actually the "heliskier" holds the tips of the skis or board and drags them across whatever surface it is. That way there's no risk of anything getting airborne.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Just a modern retake on the
"On the Piste" and "Piste again" books.
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Point 12 is something that seems to have gradually become acceptable over the last few years sadly (but still grates with me...) but not that far back would have definitely marked out the 'holiday skier' - the 'cocked wrist holding under the binding ski carry'...(as per the 'right way' image)... just grab the skis above the bindings and deploy a little bit of pinch grip. (and if your hand gets tired then rule #5 from the real rules needs to be applied!)
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Who feckin hikes, skins etc wearing goggles 
And to a lesser extent, helmet....
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| philwig wrote: |
| gorilla wrote: |
| There is also the "heliskier" where the skis are held horizontally at waist height for obvious reasons. This is a habit I have yet to acquire. |
Actually the "heliskier" holds the tips of the skis or board and drags them across whatever surface it is. That way there's no risk of anything getting airborne. |
Yep was about to say same. (Its not like in the films).
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@rob@rar, loved that
My BZK goal for this season is to first understand and second master, the 'Hobo'
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@red 27,
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@offpisteskiing, I have very small hands, which is why I carry skis that way (when they need to be off my shoulder).
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I have very small hands, which is why I carry skis that way (when they need to be off my shoulder
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My hands are not small but they are a bit arthritic and carrying a pair of skis "pinch style" is quite painful. If hooking your hand under the back binding marks me out as a "holiday skier", so be it. I am a holiday skier, after all, even if I have very long holidays.  Fortunately I am not too bothered about my "image" - I think I've grown out of being that self-conscious.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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If hooking your hand under the back binding marks me out as a "holiday skier", so be it.
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+1
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Not sure I've ever mastered the art of carrying ski elegantly. What amazes me is how many people, who really should know better, don't know the 'correct' way to grip a ski pole. I.e. With the strap round the wrist and up through the hand, as per the Telegraph image.
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@offpisteskiing, re point 12: that pinch grip (I think) has evolved away because previously with skinny skis it was easier to grip around the whole ski, which was a whole load less tiring than trying to hold wider current skis by friction alone.
Point 11 totally holds however; clearest signal of someone who's been told the right way versus all the wrong ways.
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You know it makes sense.
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@foxtrotzulu, I never use pole straps.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@offpisteskiing,
Oi! I've been doing that for years:
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Point 12 is something that seems to have gradually become acceptable over the last few years sadly (but still grates with me...) but not that far back would have definitely marked out the 'holiday skier' - the 'cocked wrist holding under the binding ski carry'...(as per the 'right way' image)... just grab the skis above the bindings and deploy a little bit of pinch grip. (and if your hand gets tired then rule #5 from the real rules needs to be applied!)
It's way more efficient than the pinch grip and has the happy consequence that your arm wraps round the skis and keeps them very snugly in to your hip and shoulder which is very public-spirited in ski lift crowds. With the pinch, people tend to wave the skis around or use them as a walking stick which takes up much more room. If I am away from the crowds then they'll be over my shoulder tips down. Beyond your prejudice what is functionally wrong with the under binding hook? I'm all for form following function in skiing and ski carrying
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Poster: A snowHead
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@offpisteskiing, Point 12 has become less useful as bindings are now heavier and mounted further forward so the balance of the skis is wrong and, rather than carrying them naturally at a cool 45 degrees, they are trying to twist more upright and the computer mouse-induced tennis elbow starts screaming due to the extra strain on the wrist.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@jedster (and others), its purely personal prejudice...! 
Mind you the under the toe binding grip doesn't work with Dynafit or Plum...
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Mind you the under the toe binding grip doesn't work with Dynafit or Plum...
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kinda works with beasts, not as well though granted. ranger cls and dynafits are so light it all hardly matters
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I quite like the under-the-binding grip. It’s all personal preference really, I can't see what’s wrong with it. Different grips for different situations for me:
- If it’s a bit of a walk - over the shoulder
- If it’s a short walk, loads of space – pinch grip, with a bit of swing to use it like a cane/pole
- If it’s a short walk, not too much space – under the bindings.
And under the bindings still working fine for me with my Radical 2.0's.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| pam w wrote: |
| @foxtrotzulu, I never use pole straps. |
Whether you use them or not is definitely up to the conscience of the individual churchgoer and I understand that there are valid reasons for not wearing them off-piste. But, I'd argue there are good reasons to wear them (avoid dropping them and to aid poling). The 'correct' way of wearing the straps is probably less prone to dropping and certainly a far better idea when poling because you don't need to grip the handle with any significant force while still able to exert maximum thrust. Still, It's not something I'd lose sleep over.
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I am going to do the opposite (off-piste stuff excluded) of everything the 'Graph is telling me to do in that article, for a whole week next season.
It's like the opposite of Gnar Day.
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valid reasons for not wearing them off-piste
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on piste, I gave up wearing them after a friend hurt her thumb because she was wearing straps the "proper" way. I put my hands on top of the grips for poling, but mostly try to use my legs. Having watched an ESF instructor skate uphill while carrying an enormous bundle of slalom poles I've been trying to improve my technique. I do ski without poles from time to time in order to wield a video camera.
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- If it’s a short walk, loads of space – pinch grip, with a bit of swing to use it like a cane/pole
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Yep - agree with you fix. I think one of the reasons I adopted the under the binding thing years ago is because I had a couple of pairs of K2s that were notorious for delaminating at the tails and a ski tech told me to be careful not to bash them too much. Got out of the habit of the walking cane thing.
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Whether you use them or not is definitely up to the conscience of the individual churchgoer and I understand that there are valid reasons for not wearing them off-piste. But, I'd argue there are good reasons to wear them (avoid dropping them and to aid poling). The 'correct' way of wearing the straps is probably less prone to dropping and certainly a far better idea when poling because you don't need to grip the handle with any significant force while still able to exert maximum thrust. Still, It's not something I'd lose sleep over.
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I generally agree with all that but recently I stopped using straps altogether just because I found I was in the habit of putting them on as I skied away from the top of the lift to the extent that I would find I had forgotten not to put them on when I was offpiste - decided to go cold turkey! In practice I find I don't miss them on piste. You do need to tighten your grasp when you plant but that becomes second nature pretty quickly. I guess also I rarely pole without skating and when you skate efficiently, the poling is more about balance than thrust (vast majority comes from your quads).
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I generally agree with all that but recently I stopped using straps altogether just because I found I was in the habit of putting them on as I skied away from the top of the lift to the extent that I would find I had forgotten not to put them on when I was offpiste - decided to go cold turkey! In practice I find I don't miss them on piste. You do need to tighten your grasp when you plant but that becomes second nature pretty quickly. I guess also I rarely pole without skating and when you skate efficiently, the poling is more about balance than thrust (vast majority comes from your quads).
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Yep, I went cold turkey too - it's not that hard to grip them hard enough to avoid dropping them, and the leather in my gloves seems to be ‘sticky’ enough to grip them easily anyway. I reckon the number of times they've been pulled out of my hands (without then pulling me over) is 2 or 3 : 1 vs me dropping them. Just a guess, I don’t keep track – but I think it’s worth it for me.
(Most recent time one was pulled out of my hands being after getting caught on the barely covered matting approaching a drag lift at Chill Factore )
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