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Edge Angles?

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When I have my skis serviced I don't ask about edge angles, I guess the shop just sharpens what is already on the skis or applies a standard angle? Is there ay merit in asking for a particular angle for your ski style or the prevailing conditions? In particular I was wondering if a different edge angle would improve grip of my 112 underfoot Preachers on very icy pistes?
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It is worth having certain edge angles for different conditions and different skis.

I can not recommend anything for the Preachers though as I don't own anything anywhere near that width underfoot, and even though there are some basic rules/guidlines I do not want to suggest something that I have not tried myself.

As a very basic rule more edge angle gives better grip but blunts quicker.
You combine edge angle with base angle. Base angle is lower on slalom and GS style skis and more prominent on SG and DH skis the reason being you want the ski to glide and reduce the risk of an edge catching at high speed, at lower technical speeds you want the edge to bite quicker for faster edge to edge turns typical of slalom.

I would suggest if you want to get into this speak to Spyderjon and maybe book on one of his courses. It is not hard to do your own skis but equally if you do get it wrong then it can take quite a bit of work to correct.
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@On the rocks,

One of the Whitedot guys may pop up and say something on here, so hang fire before you do anything.
But in the mean time have a read of Spyderjon's guide. Really useful.

http://www.jonsskituning.co.uk/content/category/5/14/34/
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I just tend to stick a 3 degree edge on all my skis. You won't notice it in powder and soft snow but it sure seems to help with grip on hard packed pistes if you let the ski run, for side slipping anything as long as it's sharp will do.
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@On the rocks, I think shops just set all angles the same; to whatever their machines set up for.

I chuck 1/3 on everything from SL to powder skis.
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I guess it may depend on the shop and the available equipment. During a moment of idleness, I asked the guys in Scheiber Sports in Obergurgl if I could watch their servicing machine (a Montana) in action. It was all pretty impressive. They dialled in the desired angles (correctly 1/3 in my case), placed the skis in the machine and let it get on with it At the end, they used a buffing wheel to add the finishing touches. They could set different angles, within reason, if requested
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sorry to be dim but what to you mean by 1/3? how does this relates to Scarpa's 3 degrees? Do you mean 0.333 degrees?
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@On the rocks, This link explains it and is a good source for other skiing-related stuff.

edit. Just noticed that the link has already been referenced earlier.
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@jtr, Thanks, perfect
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@On the rocks, I had some preachers and loved them. I keep them at the manufacturer standard which from memory was 1/3. I have to say that if I was skiing on icy pistes although 1/3 would be good angles, preachers would not be my first choice of ski!
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@jbob, Indeed, but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger? I hindsight I should have hired a pair of long super stiff skinny ski for the pre-dump conditions in Val a few weeks ago, especially for the Face Embarassed
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