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@Maireadoconnor, excellent news. Are you out of the cast? Weight bearing?
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Yep, out of the cast, building up to fully weight bearing. Time to start physio!
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@Maireadoconnor, YAY! do you have a good one lined up?
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@holidayloverxx, maybe. Had a recommendation for someone who has worked with pro footballers, but he's in Watford. There's someone in St Albans that I've had recommended too. it'll be far, far easier to see someone in St Albans. We don't have a car, so going to Watford is £20 taxi each way. I'm leaning towards the not-so-elite guy who's nearer to home.
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@Maireadoconnor, hope it goes well. I just had a great session tonight, first really good one since my meniscus flared up then I had a hurty chest after car accident - feel I am back on track after 3 months of losing fitness and all that lovely muscle Very Happy
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@holidayloverxx, maybe. Had a recommendation for someone who has worked with pro footballers, but he's in Watford. There's someone in St Albans that I've had recommended too. it'll be far, far easier to see someone in St Albans. We don't have a car, so going to Watford is £20 taxi each way. I'm leaning towards the not-so-elite guy who's nearer to home.


Physio;

Number one problem with physio is lack of compliance Ie you dont attend or you dont do the program.

Seeing a physio who works in elite sport is likely to be more of a problem if their sport is not the one you are trying to get back to or if they are unfamiliar with your injury. There are some fantastic football physios but their daily bread is acute sprains of knee , ankle along with calf , hamstring and groin pain.

Failure to see a physio who largely deals with elite athletes is way down the list as a cause for failed physio. and i would suggest that seeing a physio who largely deals with elite athletes can be a reason to fail.

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i would suggest that seeing a physio who largely deals with elite athletes can be a reason to fail

I guess it could make you feel pretty flabby and wimpy compared to their usual clients. wink My guy specialises in sailors - used to do the Olympic team - but he also treats plenty of the elderly and/or infirm at our sailing club and he doesn't make me feel too past it! I haven't been to the gym the last few days - partly because of heavy cold and partly because after injections for Morton's neuroma the doctor told me to keep off the foot as much as possible for a couple of weeks.

However, it's my right foot and my bad knee is the left one, so I have been doing some rather weedy one-legged squats. It's amazing how quickly you lose form and fitness at a more advanced age - it goes a lot quicker than it comes. Sad
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Thanks Jonathan - that's made my decision a lot easier. I'll go with the guy nearby so that I can more easily fit the physio into my life.
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@Maireadoconnor, you must be really keen to get moving after all your enforced sitting around. Good luck with it all. snowHead
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@pam w, damn right! Thanks Happy
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First physio today!

Plenty of good news, for a change. My mobility is coming back nicely. With some hard work, and a bit of luck, I may even be able to ski in January. They said no soft snow (so my brand new whitedot directors will have to stay home) but some smooth and gentle skiing on groomed runs could be ok.

I'll go back in a couple of weeks and see how how I get on.

I'm feeling pretty good Very Happy
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@Maireadoconnor, good news! Keep working at it.
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@Maireadoconnor, fantastic news! I'm sending you a PM re possibly meeting up for some gentle piste skiing in St Foy.
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@Maireadoconnor, Wow! excellent news! work hard....
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Thanks!

It's good to have motivation, isn't it? wink

@Pedantica, that would be lovely.
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Today's major breakthrough: I can now walk short distances with only one crutch, and therefore I'm able to carry a cup of tea over to my desk! First time in months!
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@Maireadoconnor, having celebrated that milestone after a much shorter time on crutches than you have had, I can imagine how good that feels!
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@Maireadoconnor, great news, well done, onwards and upwards snowHead L2 before you know it wink
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@Maireadoconnor, great stuff..the end is in sight. I invested in a sort of flask cup that I could put in the bag round my neck!
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I went swimming today for the first time in about eight years. I'd convinced myself I don't like swimming, but I was wrong; I really enjoyed it. It helps that St Albans has a brand new swimming pool which has massive windows looking out over the park to the Cathedral. It's quite lovely.

I did some walking, gentle swimming, some hopping and jumping around. It felt good and helpful. I'm going to go back tomorrow and hopefully a couple of nights in the week.

I'm walking ok with one cane for a reasonable distance, and I can now take a few steps unaided!

No L2 this year, but maybe next year. If I am skiing in Jan it will need to be very gentle, so an ideal opportunity to work on my Central Theme.
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@Maireadoconnor, managed to miss this update...more good news Very Happy
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One month out of plaster; time for another X-ray. It's healing nicely now. A good strong callus has formed, so I can weight bear well now. I'm routinely onto one crutch outdoors and no crutch indoors (although I still need two for commuting into London because I need the weaponry).

I've seen the NHS physio and also a sports physio, twice each so far. I thought it was perhaps a bit cheeky to do both, but they have actually been very different, complementary experiences. The NHS guy has given me lots of exercises to do, whereas the other guy has done more massage and manipulation of the stiff ankle. Both were delighted, perhaps even astonished, when I saw them for the second time after two weeks and had shown dramatic progress. Like @Jonathan Bell said, they told me so many people just don't do the exercises they are told to. I don't understand that. Do they just decided to put up with a limp forever?

The physios are both cautiously saying 'maybe' I can ski, and the doctor says best not until April. Hilariously, the doctor suggested I took up cross-country skiing for Jan as it's "not a twisting movement." I'm guessing he doesn't know much about either type of skiing! I am certain I would fall more and be taking a much bigger risk if I tried cross-country.

But, I think I've decided I shouldn't ski in Ste Foy. I've worked through all the stages of grief (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance) to reach a point where I realise it's better to focus on my long term health. I've never 'sacrificed' a day of skiing to do any other mountain activities, so I guess now is the time to do some snow shoeing and winter walking. I'm sure it will be nice.
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@Maireadoconnor, a wise decision I think. Better to heal properly than risk anything else happening before you are fit enough.
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@Hells Bells, +1
@Maireadoconnor, It's amazing what people will accept. My UK consultant's aim was simply that I would not have a stiff knee!
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@holidayloverxx, yes, the NHS physio will discharge me next week now that I can basically walk again. Whereas Daryl has a plan for getting me back to how I was before.

I find it hilarious when the medical staff refer to me as 'an athlete' Laughing
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@Maireadoconnor, excellent, getting the right physio is so important. I had my first ski of the season in Val d'isere and only skied 3 days, partly because of the poor conditions, only the glacier open but mainly because my knee had swelled up and stiffened ( I had to lay of the training for a few months because of a meniscus flare up then a car accident ..and it showed!). Physio sorted me out this week much better than if I had just gone to the gym on my own. I reckon Jon has a job for life as it won't get any better
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well you probably are, compared to the average run of idle fat couch potatoes they see. wink I cycled into QA hospital in Portsmouth for my bone scan - I was greeted at reception like some kind of Olympic hopeful. Laughing I think your decision is wise, too - you had a very serious injury, after all and won't have been able to be active for long. All your muscles will have lost a lot of tone. Be a bit careful of the snowshoeing, especially in deep snow - it can end up being quite "twisty" sometimes. Make sure you lock your heels down whenever the going is uneven/deep - you'll be more stable. And use long (like cross country) sticks. I also agree that cross country skiing is probably not ideal - I certainly fell quite frequently, though because you are only tenuously attached to the skis (which is why you fall in the first place) there is less scope for nasty twisty injuries. The only person I met who had been injured XC skiing had broken her collar bone - I met her in the waiting room in the medical centre and she was in a lot of pain but had not lost her sense of humour, having taken up XC skiing because she felt downhill was too likely to end up with injuries.
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@Juddernaut, I also fractured my left ankle some years ago (both tibia and fibula). It was a nasty, open fracture - when you described your "dangling" foot, it brought back the memories of mine being held in place only by flesh, resembling a leaf in high winds.

A plate, seven pins and several years later, it's ok now. It's strong (I've been squatting 405 lb for 10 reps). The range of motion is somewhat shorter than normal but does not impede me in normal life. However, like yours, my left ankle is grotesquely larger than the right. A boot fitter measured the circumference, and the difference was 2"!!! He also said there was nothing he could do.

So next year I'm supposed to have a surgery to remove the metalwork in order to have my boots fitted.
But you're scaring me now!
So even with the metalwork removed, your repaired ankle is still swollen to the point that makes it impossible to have tour boots fitted properly? Sad
That is disheartening and it makes me question my decision to have the plate removed, as there may not be point in doing that at all Sad
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@snowglider, it might be worth getting a "second opinion" from a specialist bootfitter. Talk to Colin (CEM here) at Solutions4feet in Bicester. He might well be able to help and if he can't he'll probably know somebody who can. He sent a friend of mine, with very high arches who had never been able to cope with normal ski boots without a lot of pain, to have specially-measured ones.
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Been in Ste Foy for a week, got another week before I go home.

The leg has been... Ok. I haven't skied but I've been out on snow shoes. It's not terribly easy. My own feeling is that I would have been safer on skis than on snow shoes but the doctor said no to skiing and yes to walking. I'm not sure they really knew what they were suggesting, but hey. Anyway, at least I'm getting out.

My leg aches when I've been out a lot, but it's tolerable.
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@Maireadoconnor, glad you are getting out. I think snow shoes would be pretty hard work as you'll have quite a bit of muscle defecit and weakness at the moment. My UK consultant had no idea about skiing...and said so.. and left it to the physio to decide.
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@Maireadoconnor, I started show-shoeing when I wasn't skiing because my knee was too unstable &, like you, discovered it wasn't necessarily the easy option! We were over in Plan Peisey at the time & ESF run daily organised show-shoe walks which I started going on, after a couple of times on my own which included my snowdrift incident! I found them really helpful with advise as to when to raise the heel & when to secure it, and routes & techniques too. I'd thoroughly recommend going on a couple if they have them over in St Foy. If not, maybe take a lesson. I'm glad you are out & about and enjoying the mountains, anyway Very Happy
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Nearly regardless of age, Maireadoconnor needs to take it slow. Injury such as this needs complete time to fully mend. I know a guy who broke his leg when he was 13 years of age and due to post fracture complication had to have the leg rebroken. Yes, rebroken. Cute. He was in a full leg cast for a total of ten months and not without crutches for essentially 14 months from the day he broke his leg. He was not back to normal for roughly 17 to 18 months aftwards but would eventually return to his primary sport - hockey (he has always skied for fun) - and later in life make the US Olympic hockey team. Yes, he made that cut. He told me about how he simply accepted his need for patient recovery and however difficult, he gave it time. I'd say it paid off. I can more than assume with absolute confidence he would tell Maireadoconnor to take it easy and allow for full recovery.
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Thanks guys. My muscles are actually in remarkably good nick, considering. It must be because I was in very good shape beforehand, so even with a lot of muscle loss I still have quite a lot there. I'm sticking with roads, bashed paths, or pistes, even. Basically, I'm snow showing on terrain that normally you really wouldn't need them for. I'd thought about going on guided walks like @genepi suggests, but even that sounds like a big deal. I'm mostly fine, but if I was to slip and fall that would be pretty bad. It's been freeze/thaw here so it's worse than normal.

I'm treating this as a lazy trip away from home rather than a ski trip, and I'll make up for it another time.
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Another X-ray today. Things are looking good. There is good callus and the leg is strong. However there's still a noticeable line in the X-ray where the break was. So, whilst I had hoped to do a bit of skiing in March, I've been advised not to. Therefore my only skiing this year will be the EoSB. Let's hope it's a good one.
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@Maireadoconnor, fingers crossed, look forward to meeting you again in Val Thorens! Smile
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@Maireadoconnor, Let's hope we get the best kind of snow for your recovering leg! snowHead
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@Maireadoconnor, plenty of time before the Eosb. ...Good luck with the continued rehab
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Another X-ray today. Things are looking good. There is good callus and the leg is strong. However there's still a noticeable line in the X-ray where the break was. So, whilst I had hoped to do a bit of skiing in March, I've been advised not to. Therefore my only skiing this year will be the EoSB. Let's hope it's a good one.


Pleased to hear you are getting there
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When I broke my leg (spiral fracture of fibula) in November 2013 I had been planning to ski in January '14 and I probably could have were it not for the continued swelling in the lower leg which would have made wearing a ski boot virtually impossible and agony if at all possible. I was warned the leg might swell for up to a year and that is what happened although I was able to do a little skiing in April. It has now been fine for several months, I walk a lot with my dogs and apart from the occasional ache the leg is great and I dont anticipate any further problems vis a vis ski boots or skiing. So the moral in this story is that it isnt always the obvious aspects of the injury which prevent the skiing.
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