 Poster: A snowHead
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tricky snowheads also recognises sh 1 t as a naughty word
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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"The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about."
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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HD - I'm really impressed that you can carve blacks at any speed - in that case recommend you get a pair of 27m radius professional race department giant slalom skis.
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I have a pair of blizzard 192 factories for sale, marker comp 20 binding.... dunno where the mount point is though...
FIS reg is 35m now though
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Indeed Dulcamara but as the pros can't do a pure carve on 35m radius on a black run suggest OP starts off on 27m radius race dept ski.
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dulcamara, sorry, not sure what you mean by plastic old guard (plastic race rat? I was, but not for about 10 years and at a crap level) but I have little doubt that you are a better skier than I am 
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DB, I was the kid 
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| Raceplate wrote: |
lynseyf,
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| So how does this fit in with the idea of mounting women's skis forward because of different COM? |
perfectly well. The woman's ski is mounted further forward relative to the unisex variant of the same ski, therefore French women's skis' variants are further forward than German women's skis' variants. Quid pro quo.
Might explain why some men like skiing on women's skis though. If their previous skis were German and they've never experienced a more forward mounting it could be a revelation - they think it's because it's a woman's ski but they could get the same benefit from a French unisex ski. |
That wasn't really what I meant, I'm not sure you can really generalise like that. I have a pair of women's Volks and men's Rossis here, both supposed to be 177cm but the Volkls are a good few cm longer, the Volkls also have the mounting position further back but then they are flat while the Rossis are really rockered. I would imagine the mount point is more ski type specific rather than brand?
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lynseyf, you've got to compare like with like. You can't compare a flat ski with a rockered ski because the effective running lengths are not the same.
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| Raceplate wrote: |
DB,
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| Yes I saw him dropping hints, didn't know you had helped him off-line but didn't see you commenting on the recent improvements he's made. |
What improvements? He's looking more comfortable and balanced and can now control his speed. But that's it. He's basically moved up from dangerous idiot to vaguely competent on-piste punter level.
His stance has improved because I highlighted ankle flex to him as the number one priority he should focus on in a very lengthy post way back on page 11 of that thread - over 50 pages ago. That post took me nearly 3 hours to write what with analysing, freeze-framing, cutting and pasting his video. Has anyone else spent that much time helping him? That was just one post. The PMs I sent him (in response to requests for help from him) were similarly time consuming. I sent him links to Darren Turner's videos explaining in depth how they related to his own skiing. He asked me for a one-to-one lesson in the UK which I agreed to if he covered my petrol and lift pass (nothing for my time) but he didn't want to pay anything. Sorry, but there's only so much philanthropy I can give and it's run out.
But he still wants to take BASI exams this spring. If he passes BASI (even L1) this spring it won't be because he's worked really hard and done really well, it'll be because BASI have lost the plot. I've got no problem with his ambition and good luck to him but (I think) he's now done 8 weeks on snow. It's not enough. The reality of his skiing is he still can't do a basic parallel turn on the gentlest of gradients, over-rotates and leads with his shoulders on anything steeper, has no pole plant, can't carve and can't ski variable terrain without spending 2 hours looking for his ski. Would you want to be taught by him at his current level? Would you want someone with those faults accredited as an Instructor, even at the most basic level? IMO, he's badge chasing when he should be focussing on constructive time on snow.
I haven't commented on his latest videos because there's only so many times you can repeat yourself and I'm aware that my comments are no longer being perceived as constructive by some. I'm trying to save him from making a fool of himself on the BASI course because I know how demoralising that can be but as his signature says, "you can't teach a fool" so I've basically given up on him. Point him to this post if you want but as they say on the telly, "I'm out." |
But Mate
Dosen't the above qualify as a "comment"
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franzClammer, yes, but despite the goading I didn't want to put you down on your own thread. Unfortunately, I've risen to someone else's goading here so more fool me. No hard feelings I hope and I wish you all the best in achieving your dream.
And those skis you've just bought were friggin' cheap!! Hope to see you do them justice one day.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Really, It's not a problem, we all get carried away some times.
I am grateful for the help, you know that.
Hope the knees good
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I'm 90kg, 5'11" and would probably say I've got a similar level of experience as the OP (and have carved the odd black, when freshly bashed and empty). I bought the Head Titans in 170 this year and love them. I'm certainly not as fit as I once was but find them a great 'advanced' ski. They replaced a pair of Head Cyber WC Slaloms (170) and Atomic Beta Race Carv 9,20s (also 170).
I don't find them too demanding (like the Atomics!!) but if I feel like 'turning it on' they're fabulous. They're not bad on the odd foray off piste or through accumulated on piste powder either. If you can try a pair, I'd recommend putting them on the list.
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You know it makes sense.
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So the upshot of this thread is the ONLY person who can carve a black is either an Olympic Gold Medal skier or God, or am I missing something.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Pretty much, yes.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Timbobaggins, I've done it from time to time, so the thread's wrong. Mind you, I ski in Italy quite a lot.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Raceplate wrote: |
And those skis you've just bought were friggin' cheap!! Hope to see you do them justice one day. |
+1 (to both parts)
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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homers double, I am the best skier on the mountain and currently am thrilled to bits with my new Völkl RTM 81s. Great on piste and, what I have seen so far, great in European off piste ( i.e heavy powder & sludge & broken crud ). The kipper's knickers in fact. Try some.
PS. I would have posted some video of me skiing but the GoPro couldn't handle the G forces. I need a stronger camera.
PPS. I have no idea where the bindings are mounted. Somewhere in the middle I think.
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Steilhang, Excellent post.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I'm sure all expertish skiers have carved blacks under helpful conditions (empty, wide, good snow). But there is a big difference between that and saying "I carve blacks" which suggests to me that you generally ski black runs in a sequence of linked carved turns. I've not met anyone who really does that.
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and definitely not on undersized 1080s!
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and I don't really understand how an expertish piste skier is not more confident/competent off-piste. The technique is really very similar these days
But I think there have been some very good suggestions on the types of skis - particularly from raceplate
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Raceplate, Don't feed the troll
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| Timbobaggins, I've done it from time to time, so the thread's wrong. Mind you, I ski in Italy quite a lot. |
I get it now,
Last year I skiid La Rosiere, whilst on the French side I was snow plough turning for Great Britain, when I got to La Thuile, I skiid like Bode Miller.
This year I went to Montgenevre and skiid like a tw++t
Soon as I got to Claviere, I was a ski god.
Spooky
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And if you're referring to that idiot geeo, it's obvious from all his other posts that he's just a troll who likes to wind people up; I'm not rising to it. If you view that as backing down, fine but I view it as being the bigger man.
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Lol
still being a knobjockey I see
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| jedster wrote: |
| I'm sure all expertish skiers have carved blacks under helpful conditions (empty, wide, good snow). But there is a big difference between that and saying "I carve blacks" which suggests to me that you generally ski black runs in a sequence of linked carved turns. I've not met anyone who really does that. |
Who really does what? Link turns on a black run?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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kitenski, can carving be something else then this? Well I guess for majority of people I see on slopes nowadays, and who think today's skis make perfect arcs all by themself as soon as you put them to edge, carving actually means something else, as everyone are "perfect carvers" with these "new" skis. But other other then this, this is pretty much only real carving, and I still don't see where you guys got idea it's not possible to do it on black runs, unless you are World cup skier.
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You know it makes sense.
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To me carving on steep terrain is like drawing a perfect circle time and time again. I don't think anyone carves perfectly all the time esp on steep terrain and what people accept as carving differs. You only have do a quick search on "carving steep" in youtube to see what some people believe carving is.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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jogi, if you just tip your ski on edge on a black run you won't be carving, well you may be for a small part of the turn.....
Not many folk are "perfect carvers"
So that's why I think most folk (me included) won't be able to carve on a black run...as DB says it's two perfect clean lines, with no skid in between turn after turn after turn on a black run.
That video is my definition of carving on a black run, just tipping your skis on edge, smearing the turn, rotating at the start, skidding at the end even if some part of the turn is on edge are not carving. But that's my personal opinion!
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Poster: A snowHead
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FWIW this is what I would define as carving on a red/black
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That terrain looks like a particularly blue shade of red/black!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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kitenski, obviously I wasn't sarcastic enough. Most of people think, putting skis on edge is all you need to do, and you are making perfect carving turns already. In reality things look a little bit different. Just putting ski on edge basically doesn't do a shi*t, and as soon as it's not really flat, you end up skidding, just like with old skis. And 90% of people are everything else but carving. I know pretty good what it takes to make normal carving turns when slopes get steep.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Does getting your hand down count?
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P.s wine means I can't really be cant be arsed typing a full response.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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FWIW this is what I would define as carving on a red/black
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That terrain looks like a particularly blue shade of red/black! |
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kitenski,
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That video is my definition of carving on a black run
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If that's a black run that video is my definition of a very badly graded piste.
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| swiftoid wrote: |
kitenski,
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That video is my definition of carving on a black run
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If that's a black run that video is my definition of a very badly graded piste. |
Looking at the video that looks like a classic Glacier A frame T bar off to the right. It's not the Kaserer I drag on Hintertux is it?
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homers double,
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Who really does what? Link turns on a black run?
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I see you cunningly removed the important "carved" from my point 
I don't see any skiers routinely skiiing blackruns in a smooth sequence of linked carves (i.e., no steering skidding between the turns). But as I said in my post, I'd have thought most good skiers do ski occasional sections of black runs doing exactly that.
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That was my post, not a copied quite.
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