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Ski and board came yesterday, How many Snowheads are featured this Month? I have a feeling at least one letter is from a Snowhead,
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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There's a regular correspondence going on between two snowHeads at the moment in alternate issues.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I guess it's conceivable that the editor, A. Wilson, is A. snowHead. Having known Arnie for about 20 years, and had a huge number of laughs with him (he can be a seriously funny man), it would be nice to feel that he enjoys the warm glow of snowHeads occasionally!
Alternatively, the warm snow of glowHeads.
When I see him next week I won't ask him if he's A. snowHead, as it's his right to pursue a life of innocence and abstinence should he choose.
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David Goldsmith, I think Kramer just answered my question 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Yes, the pro- and anti-alcohol medics' letters have been noted. It's not quite clear whether one of them, John Barcroft, actually feels that skiers should drink no beer at all at lunchtime, which would be quite harsh.
That's not to say that there isn't an issue about excess consumption of booze on mountains.
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I'll have to buy the mag........
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David Goldsmith, - but didn't you demand to know MY true identity a few months ago ? 
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Ah yes you've got him there Scrumpy!
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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It's fair to request ID if a personal attack is being worked up by a pseudonym against a named person, isn't it?
That certainly doesn't apply in Arnie Wilson's case. By 'A. snowHead' I was referring to any pen-name anyone might care to use, which is their right.
Though real names are always welcome - we're not discussing nuclear secrets here.
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David Goldsmith, don't remember scrumpy attacking anyone.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Thanks Tim
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Tim and Scrumpy. You know that's not correct. A direct personal attack was levelled against Snowball, who used to disclose his real name in his snowHeads signature, and has now virtually disappeared from this forum.
GrahamN, that may or may not be true but I doubt if Arnie's job description extends to reading snowHeads! We're a community of 3000, out of a British ski population of 1.2 million, which may or may not be signficant to the editor of a national ski magazine.
I'd agree with you on a general level that the upper echelons of the SCGB would be wise to know what happens here - since we're (to some extent) a renegade community of the Ski Club - but you're being a bit personal to someone who may not wish to register under their name at snowHeads for obviousl reasons.
The general point I'm making is that personal attacks from pseudonyms are particularly unpleasant, IMHO. If people have reasons for adopting pseudonyms for reasons other than launching personal attacks, that's fine as far as I'm concerned.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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The Right Honorable GrahamN, the Ski Club of Great Britain is - under its very commercial agenda - no longer accountable to its members (or British skiers) in the same way that it once was. It is now accountable to its commercial partners: resorts, tour operators, retailers, and its own in-house commercial activities.
I believe this is to the detriment of the Club and its members, but we'll have to see how things pan out.
In theory, websites or other popular communities will take over the 'popular vote' of British skiers - so, in essence, I agree that ski journalists and editors are well-advised to mix with the masses.
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Poster: A snowHead
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[quote="The Abominable snowHead"]Tim and Scrumpy. You know that's not correct. A direct personal attack was levelled against Snowball, who used to disclose his real name in his snowHeads signature, and has now virtually disappeared from this forum.
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Don't remember that. Do you have a link to the bit where scrumpy attacked snowball?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Tim Brown, here's the thread concerned:
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=7553&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Check page 4, in particular:
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Scrumpy
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Location: moving on
Good heavens - what fun - the Ski Club forum arguments that upset one or two people recently had nothing on this lot !
And much of it started off by Snowball having a memory like the proverbial elephant ! Seems to me he's more upset with himself for not taking appropriate action at the time -Surely the holiday was the only time that the problem could have been dealt with to the satisfaction of all parties - with a complaint to the holidays department if the situation had not been changed by the Rep and guides.
IMHO Snowball should have "self censored" by realising that no good can come from dredging up the past in this manner - He comes out of it at least as badly as the couple he is whingeing about.
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As I say, we haven't heard much from Snowball since that time. Is it any wonder?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Very weak Abominable, very weak. Speudonyms are fine then as long as the user doesn't get into heated debate with another poster. Hmm... talk about making the rules up as you go along.
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The Abominable snowHead, the above is not a personal attack.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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The Abominable snowHead, btw, he is more than likely still here but posting under a 'speudonym'.
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I'm beginning to wonder who's the ventriloquist and who's the dummy/scrumpy.
Maybe it's time for the Ski Club of Great Ventriloquists (SCGV)
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David Goldsmith, As I have never met Tim Brown and do not know who Beck Daross is - (nor The Abominable Snowman, Snowball etc. come to that) - I don't know what you are getting at.
The Abominable snowHead,
In my own defence, I do not think that to comment that someone who brings up a grudge that was over 10 years old as if it still had current relevance "[has] a mind like the proverbial elephant" etc. was a personal attack - it was merely my view that this should have been dealt with at the time and not stored up for so long. I actually spoke from personal experience - I had had a very nasty experience on holiday once - so stressful that my hair thinned drastically soon after - and would still be telling people the details of it today if I hadn't complained to the relevant people and dealt with it there and then - the appropriate time !
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You're entitled to that opinion. As a fellow member of the Ski Club I thought Snowball's allegation about a senior officer of the Club serious enough to ask the officer concerned to comment. Snowball felt the experience had negatively affected his holiday.
You chose to attack Snowball (whose true name is known to us) from the cover of a pseudonym, which I thought was inappropriate. It was the last sentence of your posting, quoted above, that seemed hurtful to a fellow member of this community.
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Tim Brown,
"Do you have a link to the bit where scrumpy attacked snowball?"
can I post this little gem on the other forum?!! 
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Sounds like two kittens having a furball. 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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David Goldsmith, the comments related to 10 years earlier - my last sentence stands - people that can't deal with something at the time shouldn't whine on about it so much later. It was a private and personal holiday complaint and why you should have felt any need to follow it up so much later defies belief.
Also - the comment re "self censorship" was made, not just off the top of my head but because the original posting had been censored.
Last edited by snowHeads are a friendly bunch. on Sat 10-12-05 12:09; edited 1 time in total
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Yes, Scrumpy, I think we get the message. In time you'll discover a couple of contextual issues that made Snowball's complaint perfectly topical ...
... in the meantime, Merry Christmas to you and any fellow anonymous apples.
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David Goldsmith, I'm staggered by the total and utter hypocrisy which you display so unashamedly both here and on the SCGB site!
I think it was rather foolish of snowball to place such an old complained into the public domain. More so because it was based on hearsay.
But as you seem to have questioned the accused, maybe you would like to tell use if you were happy with what he said?
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You know it makes sense.
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Anyone getting that feeling of deja-vu?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Tim Brown, Fred Irish has elected not to comment on Snowball's allegation.
Whether Snowball was right to put the comments in the public domain depends partly on how one interprets the Ski Club's role as "an independent spokesbody for British recreational skiers" (1995 mission statement).
If the Club adopts a role as a representative body of British skiers then its officers operate in the public interest, as well as the private interests of a members' club.
That doesn't mean that I necessarily endorse Snowball's action in raising the matter on a public forum, but people in authority obviously have to behave as they would expect those beneath them to behave, don't they?
Snowball's allegation was not based on hearsay - it was his direct observation, as I understood it.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Frosty the Snowman, yes ... <nods off>
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Nice to see a benign four-letter word preceding the word "off".
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Oh, so that's why you're determined to push this 'spokesbody for British recreational skiers' line.
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Who plucked Bungle's Twanger? My suspects include Snowball, Scrumpy and Frost. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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petermillar, Welcome to Snowheads Peter - nice to se you've come across from SCGB to visit
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petermillar, you need to register for snowMedia separately - conventionally people use the same login on snowMedia as they do for snowHeads.
(I don't think my names silly )
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Thanks Ian - and yes, your name's fine! I will do the registering stuff ... 
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