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Why is off piste skiing such a testosterone dominated activity?

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pam w this...

davidof wrote:
DB wrote:
Zero_G,
So these Ladies Ski weeks that ski resorts offer, who are the target customers ?


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What "opportunities" do you think you missed?


Maybe voyeurism? Maybe that is straying into the apres.

I must say of the people who I ski with on a frequent basis there is probably only a small difference in the sexes willingness to venture off piste. Having said that the stuff I do and enjoy doing is not the massive balls you fall you did stuff more the Gentle solitude of being away from the masses with hopefully the added attraction of some nice ungroomed snow but not crud.
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Maybe voyeurism?

Laughing Laughing Laughing another deluded soul who confuses porn with real life?
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Never done any women only course. But have done group lesson where all who turn up are women. In terms of actual ability, there's no correlation.

I did notice on average, women learner tend to ask more questions and wanted more explanation. I, on the other hand, are the type who "learn by doing/copying" with only a few words of what to focus on. So I'm not particularly thrilled with the extra standing about and talking when the group has more women than men.

That probably was the reason why I never seek out women only lessons. Though if I know/like the instructor, I wouldn't have any problem with that. Really is just my attempt to better my odd of the lesson will turn out to suit my learning style.
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The reason I was often labelled as a lesbian was because I used to play rugby


I may have contributed to this impression Embarassed In my defence the two ladies of the England ladies Rugby team both had a particularly sterotypical look and were holding each other in a rather more than friendly way. Wasnt just their sport that informed my assumption!
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pam w, it's a joke.

Man talking to woman in bar.

Woman: I'm not interested, I like women, I'm a lesbian.
Man: noooooo...,I'm a lesbian too. Shocked
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pam w wrote:
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Maybe voyeurism?

Laughing Laughing Laughing another deluded soul who confuses porn with real life?


There is a real life???? Very Happy
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any wonder that the OP mentioned testosterone? rolling eyes
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I have to say, I can barely bring myself to check the thread I started for fear of what has popped up since I last viewed it... (pardon the pun..!) Madeye-Smiley
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jedster, it's fine. Our scrum half was actually a lesbian. She was a small lithe lass who was not afraid of tackling anyone of any size. Fair play to her...
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lynseyf wrote:
the only people I have ever heard call sporty girls lesbians were male, unfortunately this has included male friends of mine. I was not sporty at all at school and was probably more of the loads of make up, older boyfriend type and I never thought any of the girls who did sports were gay. There was a rugby club in the town I grew up in and some of the girls I went to school with played for the women's team and again the only people I remember making lesbian jokes were the boys.

I've heard those talks from boys. I swear I detect a hint of defensiveness in their tone though.

Basically, when the boys couldn't get the attention of some girls they fancy, they have to invent excuse why the girls were not interested. And it's never because he can't ski (or play whatever sport) as well as the girl. Or the girl is more interested in the sport than him! So it's got to be because the girl is a lesbian!

It's not just sports though. Insecured boys/men calling girls who won't go out with them as lesbians is pretty common theme.
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In my very limited experience, very sporty girls tend to be paired up with sporty good looking men.



Keepin it real ....



I'm also not sure how many women I've met were really lesbian or how many were putting it on for a few minutes just to get rid of me. Toofy Grin
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I can't comment on the sexual orientations of this young lady as she considers a first descent of the East Face of the Moucherotte (rated 4.3) in the early 1920s but the trench coat, head band and retro "lafuma" style rucksack give her a certain French touch.



I don't know if she made that descent or settled for the normal route, in itself not straightforward with the gear of the epoch.


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queen bodecia wrote:
Now I get it. The reason I was often labelled as a lesbian was because I used to play rugby. ... Laughing


I had the same problem ,.



.... err, hang on .... im a bloke !
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its all about perception,... that looks like pure pleasure to me.
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DB wrote:
I'm also not sure how many women I've met were really lesbian or how many were putting it on for a few minutes just to get rid of me. Toofy Grin

LOL!

It's a most useful technique to find out if a woman is being view by a bloke as a person or just a sex toy...
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davidof, great pic I love those old skiing pics
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Here's another for you



Husband and wife enjoying a little Christmas ski touring expedition into the Veneon (Oisans) in 1922. 46 years before the invention of the avalanche beacon. Did anyone say "spring skiing"?
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davidof wrote:
Did anyone say "spring skiing"?


As they are off piste "and" touring I would expect to hear on this thread "lesbian skiing" instead .


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davidof, loving the pics! They remind me of that iconic pic of a Victorian woman, in floor length skirts, corset and big hat, crossing a Mont Blanc crevasse on a rickety old wooden ladder.

DB, I can report no overt evidence of lesbians at Combloux's ladies day yesterday. Just a whole bunch of women and families enjoying the mountain. Case closed.
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davidof, those pics are fabulous!
Zero_G,you spoilsport! c´mon, don´t shatter DBs illusions……...maybe they were Bi? Twisted Evil
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Zero_G, davidof, the people in those old ski pics always look so happy despite the fact it must have been absolutely knackering to get where ever they were with heavy wooden skis and leather boots and layers of wool.

Not sure if haggistrap has posted this on here before but I love this video of old skiers in Scotland. I love how they built the first lift at the very top of the mountain, I guess it meant it served the best of the snow but it would have been quite a hike to get there. Tenuous link, there's loads of women skiing ungroomed snow in the link Wink

Glencoe (1939 - 1994) from Doug Bryce
http://vimeo.com/16034266

Glencoe was the first Scottish hill I went skiing on. After doing 2 weeks in Europe on well marked and groomed runs we went up there after a big snowfall. Most of the runs are unmarked and none were groomed the first time we went. There was about 1-2ft of fresh snow on very little base and it was completely different from anything I had ever skied before Smile
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Zero_G wrote:
davidof, loving the pics! They remind me of that iconic pic of a Victorian woman, in floor length skirts, corset and big hat, crossing a Mont Blanc crevasse on a rickety old wooden ladder.
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are you talking about elephant woman?

can't find a pic at the moment but someone like this.



> There was about 1-2ft of fresh snow on very little base

sounds like Bavarian skiing Laughing
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kooky wrote:
Zero_G,you spoilsport! c´mon, don´t shatter DBs illusions……...maybe they were Bi? Twisted Evil


There were some cross-dressers in full make up and wigs… maybe that image will float his boat instead.
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Perty, I want to say thank you for starting this thread actually. I used to be much more daredevil than I am now and didn't have fear of going off piste with someone who knew where to go, no fear of speed or falling over and getting bumps and bruises (immediately signed up for doing the Bob Skeleton when no one else was up for it etc.) Then I found snowHeads and it was a great resource but I started to realise that I wasn't as good a skier as I thought I was (though I never thought I was great or anything) and that I knew very little about technical stuff, gear and so on. I got lessons and did the necessary going back to basics in order to get better... Just as I was on the cusp of feeling more confident about doing the sort of stuff I would do before but now with better technique, I broke my ACL and so spent last season (having had an operation in May) skiing very tentatively, on piste only. My instructor was insistent that, once the school holidays were over in March, I'd have to start doing more adventurous stuff but then she had a season-ending injury during half term and I wimped out of finding someone else and so just carried on doing the same thing. I have definitely started to overthink in a way I never used to and avoiding pushing myself outside of my new, lower comfort zone... and then I read the thread where Corduroy is saying he's been skiing something I'd currently be nervous to do when he's only had 6 weeks on skis and I realise it's time to change!
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avoiding pushing myself outside of my new, lower comfort zone..

I've been getting like that..... but a great day today with Charlotte on the first day of the "On2Off" course. We did some (to us) pretty steep off piste with a fair bit of powder on - really nice conditions, actually, but no way I'd have done it without Charlotte's coaching, or someone similar. Then we did it again, and it was easier...... she suggested we might do it again after she'd left us, at lunch, but we all felt our legs had had enough and did some less steep skiing - but still more difficult than what I normally do, with some poor light and a lot of fresh churned up snow - even the blue pistes were quite hard work. A nice group to ski with - we are all quite well matched and there was no testosterone flying around.
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pam w, sounds excellent.

My comfort zone is definitely too low at the moment. I haven't really recovered from bailing out of my off-piste course in St Anton two years ago: it was right that I did (as it turned out) but the whole episode somewhat sapped my confidence. Maybe next week will help, as the guys at Inside Out are good at judging when to push people just that bit more than they think they'd like (she said, with strong memories of being yelled at by Scott while skeetering on sheet ice on the Tignes glacier. Shocked Skullie )
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pam w, I would love to do a course with a group. I guess I would have to find one very early or very late season. Please take some photos and do a trip report!
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Zero_G wrote:
DB, I can report no overt evidence of lesbians at Combloux's ladies day yesterday. Just a whole bunch of women and families enjoying the mountain. Case closed.


Maybe they just never let you in their click, maybe your nails were too long. Toofy Grin
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kooky, DB, what goes on tour, stays on tour. That's all I'm saying wink
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I knew it. So in answer to Perty's question - not so many females go off piste because they are too busy playing about in the bush. wink

Seriously why don't you Snowhead's gals try and get an all gals offpiste group together? That way you won't have us hot fit gnarly dudes making you go weak at the knees. wink Toofy Grin
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DB, the horse is dead, might as well stop flogging the poor bug. Laughing
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Seriously why don't you Snowhead's gals try and get an all gals offpiste group together?



I just want you to know, if we did, a) count me in, and b) I AM open to the possibility of bribery, should I happen to have my Go Pro on in the sauna afterwards Little Angel
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pam w, sounds like a great first day, please do post a trip report.

kooky, you could get good money for some really steamy footage Wink
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lynseyf, aye…….how do you think I manage to finance my filthy ski habit wink
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this is turning into a rather entertaining thread...Smile
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So this "Snowheads Powder Gals Bash" - would you go half board, full board or would you lot be eating out most of the time?
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Online, as in real life, it takes a surprising small whiff of the tedious old locker room to be off-putting.

Anyway...just popping to say that it's certainly true that the difference evens out considerably when you look at people who actually live in mountain towns. Of course this is very much self-selected, but one of the things I really love about here is that there are so many mountain sport-loving women.

Also, love the Moucherotte lady! Very poised. Where's the pic from?
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Don't forget the anti fog inserts!
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So this "Snowheads Powder Gals Bash" - would you go half board, full board or would you lot be eating out most of the time?


Naughty boy, I see what you did there Shocked
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