 Poster: A snowHead
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Hello,
recently came across the stoeckli rotor 72
ski model, twin tip with 72mm waist. It corresponds exactly to what I want to do, mainly piste & carving, sometimes going to the Park. However, the model comes in 177cm max, and I mesure 189cm for 76kg so it might be a bit Small.
Can anyone recommend a twin tip ski with a narrow waist and good carving abilities similar to the rotor 72? If not, are there any piste skis are light enough for the occasional stop at the Park?
thanks!
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Hi ozifest, welcome to snowheads! Personally don't know any twins that come that narrow now (not to say they don't exist out there tho!), but if you are just having the occasional run through the park and not hitting rails/spinning then I think anything under your feet will do the job to be honest. If you're hitting anything switch (after all the main reason to have a twin!) then I would steer away from a short radius piste ski. A lot of the burlier park skis do a half decent job on piste, they are just a bit wider than the Stoeckli's.
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Thanks for your reply. I do want to spin and ski switch, I just want to be able to carve on my way to the park.. And I have skied with salomon streetracers so I'm not used to fat waists and floppiness! I just looked at the armada triumph, they looked good (more of an all mountain ski) what do you think?
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I use a 173 Whitedot One for this. 89mm, so not as slim as you want, but a very efficient carving machine for some reason - and stiff for its length. I am 175cm and 80kg, so heavier than you, and the 173 works very well for me. The 180cm should work for you. It skis "slimmer" than 89mm, and is a great thing for tipping on its edges and railing around: stable at speed (with a 3 degree edge angle - they need it, and the factory tune is not great tbh), very playful in the park. Genuinely great in moguls, which really shocked me.
Weaknesses? Really not great at all off-piste - that mid-fat waist still doesn't deliver much flotation, and the tips like to sink in powder, making it tiring to use in anything worse than calf deep stuff. And pretty nasty on boilerplate ice - but I think that goes for most "all mountain" twin tips. Apart from that, I wholeheartedly recommend this ski.
Until this season, it has been my only ski. I spent a week in the park with them at the British Freeski camp, and 7 weeks' off skiing all conditions in them last season, in conditions ranging from US powder to end of season sludge in Chamonix. I am taking them with me this season - with a 112mm fat ski for big powder days; the latter will get far less use than the Ones. I use a Marker Jester Schizo binding, which is great for adjusting from piste to park, and has served me well last two seasons - reliable, no release issues, and have held up to a lot of abuse.
Given that Steven at www.rocnoir.co.uk is knocking out 2 year old ones (same season as mine, but obviously brand new) for 250 a pair...a lot of ski for the money. And some guy on ebay is doing Jester Schizo 16s at 200. That's a pretty strong price for a setup that is this good.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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You have to get over the silly topsheets, though. I like them, many do not.
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K2 also did some twin versions of their piste skis a couple of seasons ago (Apaches of some description) maybe worth looking for these? Around 70mm waist. Rear tip is just a rise, but enough for the park and being allowed onto airbags in some resorts (Bormio), where they only allow twin tips.
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ozifest, got a friend who is getting rid of a pair of Coreupt Lunatic skis for pretty cheap, they're 185cm and 83m underfoot. Never skied on them but can put you in touch if you want, they're mounted with marker squire schizo bindings.
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Hi Ozifest, I personally wouldn't worry about going too wide, but then again it's all about perspective and I'm quite used to skiing kit that's long and fat. I've been testing a lot of new designs lately and it's really valuable to work out what you want and what works, I'd "personally" be looking at something a max of around 90mm-ish and wouldn't be scared of adding in *rocker* (see the PS below) to the mix as well as you are obviously not too shy of skiing on your edges! If you are serious about the park side of things I would also look for a ski with a balanced sidecut (ie not too much difference between tip/tail, say a max of 10mm-ish) and a decent height twin tip. Again this is just me from a personal perspective, take from it what you will.
PS as long as the sidecut extends to the tip/tail with not too much taper.
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Take a look at Nordica. I've only skied the Soul Riders (whcih are a bit wider than you want) but they have phenomenal edge grip for the width. Assuming they have the same quality core in their park skis, I don;t think you'd be disappointed.
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