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@nattib, I suppose as people gain confidence to travel, demand for tests may rise, unless they're unnecessary and in that case, there will be refund options.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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We went through a similar thought process (travelling on 24th, and didn't want postal delays on the run into Christmas), so ordered a little earlier than we needed to.
Randox offer 14 day refund in T&C, but it's unclear what "begun to supply the service" means and whether you can return unused test packs.
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4.1.1 You have a right to cancel the contract within 14 days of the date of order to receive a refund. Where Randox has begun to supply the service, the amount of the refund may be reduced to account for the value of services already supplied to you up to the point of cancellation. This amount is calculated by comparing the value of the services already supplied to you to the total paid for the service contract. The process for requesting a refund is detailed at 4.2.
4.2.1 4.2.1 If you wish to obtain a refund, you should send the following contact form by email to covidcustomersupport@randox.com.
To Randox Health London Ltd. 5 Finsbury House, 23 Finsbury Circus, London, EC2M 7EA, I/We* hereby give notice that I/We* cancel my/our* contract for the supply of the following service:
Order number:
Ordered on: [DD/MM/YYYY]
Name:
Address:
Date: [DD/MM/YYYY]
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Reviewing first week Jan by the sounds of it
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@Ackie68, what's being reviewed please? Any where are you getting the information?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@nattib, definitely worth waiting as goal posts keep moving and I doubt supply would be an issue as there are a large number of supplier. I order from C19 last night at around 7PM and received delivery this morning by DPD.
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I doubt very much they will run out of tests of any kind, not when the companies that offer them are making as much money as they are doing (I presume they are making a fair bit considering the cost price of lateral flow tests  ), they’ve every reason to keep all this going for the foreseeable future, not let the supply grind to a halt.
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The Connexion speculating that France May mirror UK travel testing (PCR on arrival plus quarantine), whereas Telegraph this evening saying France likely to require PCR on arrival. Not sure whether this is pure speculation or there is some briefing going on to the press
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Tell me about it. I am wrecked by stress from this. We are due to leave on Friday. Have managed to book all the tests I think we need. But a PCR in France is a whole different kettle of fish…such a risk of ruining the whole of Christmas if one of us tests +ve.
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I'm hearing Italy is the same - PCR on entry
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| ma94jcg wrote: |
| Tell me about it. I am wrecked by stress from this. We are due to leave on Friday. Have managed to book all the tests I think we need. But a PCR in France is a whole different kettle of fish…such a risk of ruining the whole of Christmas if one of us tests +ve. |
We also leave on Friday using Eurotunnel - brought forward from Sunday. I refuse to believe its going to happen until we are driving off the train in France. It’s quite easy to get PCR tests in France if it comes to it and should not be too worried about it. They are well organised on that front and hopefully other resorts will follow Chatel in setting up a mass testing and vaccination Center in the Center of the village all bootable online and open every day until 6pm.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I have antigen tests to use before we leave UK, antigen tests to use before we leave France and PCR for when we get home again. I am not sure we could cope with spending Christmas Day in quarantine instead of on the slopes though. Not leaving until next Wed and can't bring it forward for various reasons.
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You know it makes sense.
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| stefoy4me wrote: |
all this Omnicron is a massive overreaction........ground zero is SA who 2-3 weeks ahead. Yes cases are high but deaths and hospital admissions low
all points to cases being milder....and not much more than a cold or mild flu.
I cna understand non jabbed getting restrictions but double or triple jabbed.....currently seems very little benefits vs nti vaxers |
100% agreed.
It's a case of politicians the world-over wanting to be seen to react (to nothing, after earlier failing to react to something) to get re-elected. 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Not 100% sure but I think that's been the case for a little while.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Travelling 31st - pretty much written it off now, too many unknowns
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@Bergmeister, sounds fantastic glad you had a great time, safe journey home 
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Where does this leave 1/2 vaccinated >11yo kids accompanying fully vaccinated parents?
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@ma94jcg, the Telegraph article is “could” impose PCR tests on arrival, not “is likely to” as you state. The Telegraph article reports no new updates since the interview Gabriel Attal gave to French radio this morning. Given the silence since then I don’t see this as something that is at imminent risk of change.
@ChrisReed, that’s not a change. It’s been the case for some time that the French Government has not considered tourism by unvaccinated adults to fall within their criteria for “pressing grounds” for entry to France.
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I honestly don't know, under 12 is based on parents status but over 12 is another matter, sorry!
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| Inboard wrote: |
@ma94jcg, the Telegraph article is “could” impose PCR tests on arrival, not “is likely to” as you state. The Telegraph article reports no new updates since the interview Gabriel Attal gave to French radio this morning. Given the silence since then I don’t see this as something that is at imminent risk of change.
@ChrisReed, that’s not a change. It’s been the case for some time that the French Government has not considered tourism by unvaccinated adults to fall within their criteria for “pressing grounds” for entry to France. |
Interesting and maybe hopeful
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I’m just wondering that if they did introduce PCR neg result on arrival if we’d be covered? We fly into Geneva and transit to France and adults and kids are doing PCRs 24hs prior to departure just to be on the safe side rather than antigens?
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| rob@rar wrote: |
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Not 100% sure but I think that's been the case for a little while. |
100% sure it has.
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With UK scrapping red lists as Omicron is widespread, I’m vaguely optimistically hopeful that they’ll realise all the tests are useless to
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| With UK scrapping red lists as Omicron is widespread, I’m vaguely optimistically hopeful that they’ll realise all the tests are useless to |
They will save face for a while, then say it has done it's job, but no longer useful.
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In what way is this update not good news? It doesn't seem to have changed from what it was a couple of weeks ago.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Boarderfarce, What's the probability that you test -ve outbound, THEN become +ve en route AND pull a random check?
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@Charliegolf, PCR are I understand a lot more sensitive so possible
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Poster: A snowHead
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@rob@rar, hit submit too early.
The details in the table. As I read it all those unable to prove vaccine status, which includes those teenagers with single jab will not be able to enter france (no pressing need). And 7 day self isolation and end of period test.
The key to the table states * The strictest list of rules shall apply.
Not sure how you decide what the strictest measure is?
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@Boris, Fair enough. Might be prudent to do PCR outbound then? Then my probability stays low.
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| Boarderfarce wrote: |
@rob@rar, hit submit too early.
The details in the table. As I read it all those unable to prove vaccine status, which includes those teenagers with single jab will not be able to enter france (no pressing need). And 7 day self isolation and end of period test.
The key to the table states * The strictest list of rules shall apply.
Not sure how you decide what the strictest measure is? |
Minors take their parent’s vaccination status for travel as stated on the same site https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coming-to-france-your-covid-19-questions-answered/
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Boarderfarce wrote: |
@rob@rar, hit submit too early.
The details in the table. As I read it all those unable to prove vaccine status, which includes those teenagers with single jab will not be able to enter france (no pressing need). And 7 day self isolation and end of period test.
The key to the table states * The strictest list of rules shall apply.
Not sure how you decide what the strictest measure is? |
OK. The situation for 11-15 year olds is certainly tricky, but as I understand it they can enter France without restrictions if they accompany their fully vaccinated parents/guardians. There are certainly challenges for that age range when they get to resort, but I don't think entering the country is impossible, nor are those the result of rule changes today.
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| Bergmeister wrote: |
| 6 days skiing. No PS checks at lifts. |
Same for me in Les Arcs. Four days of skiing, not a single PS check anywhere, so far.
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That's it for us then, they have pulled the travel with vaxxed parent for minors not allowed to be vaxxed. I reckon Javid either knew they were abut to change their rules or French misinterpreted this:
"UK Extends Covid Pass To 12-15 Year-Olds “To Give Parents Confidence To Book Holidays”
Children in England aged 12 to 15 are now able to demonstrate their coronavirus vaccination status for international travel purposes using the NHS Covid Pass.
Speaking in the House of Commons on 13 December, Sajid Javid, health secretary, said: “From today, I can confirm the NHS Covid pass is being rolled out to 12-15 year olds for international travel, allowing even more people to be able to prove their vaccine status for travel where it’s needed.”
He later added: “This will give parents confidence in booking holidays in the future thanks to our fantastic vaccination programme. Parents can be reassured they will be able to evidence their child’s vaccination status once they have had both doses of the vaccine.”
Children remain exempt from certification in domestic settings in England and at the UK border.
The Pass will allow those children who have had both doses of an approved vaccine to travel to countries, including Spain and Canada, which require 12-15 year olds to be fully vaccinated to gain entry, avoid isolation, or access venues or services.
Proof of vaccination will initially be provided via a letter that will include an internationally-recognised barcode. A digital service via NHS.uk is promised for early next year. The letter service can be accessed by calling 119 or via NHS.uk, with applicants told to expect a delivery period of seven days.
England’s vaccination programme is being extended to offer all children aged 12-15 a second dose of an approved vaccine no sooner than 12 weeks after the first dose. The government decided in November to accept advice from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation to extend the vaccination programme to those aged 12 and above."
Our kids can't get x2 jabbed until beginning of Jan, too late for our trip with friends coming over from Australia staying with us!!! Why did the JCVI dither!
Not happy at all.
50 fingers crossed for a re-write tomorrow but this has been removed from UK too:
Children:
Children, whether or not they are vaccinated, are not subject to compelling reasons and quarantine if they are accompanied by a vaccinated adult.
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@Borderface we are travelling as 2 fully vac adults and two single vac teens next week - are we still eligible to travel in your opinion?
I thought if teens were travelling with fully vac parents/Adults we were ok?
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@ma94jcg, minors under 12 yes. Those over unfortunately not.
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| Boarderfarce wrote: |
| @ma94jcg, minors under 12 yes. Those over unfortunately not. |
Minors are under 18. They aren’t adults until 18!
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