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4 People Killed in Avalanche in Val d'Isere

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I've often wondered about being able to spot the movement in the snow pack and grabbing then handle, same goes for the avalung, I know you're meant to ski with it in your mouth, but always wondered what the chances of it being ripped out while in a slide, or losing it while gasping or saying swearies loudy.
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rob@rar, Shocked I'd be hard on your (high) heels.
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Chasseur, I saw that article and was totally unconvinced. To me it smacked of the stuff said by anti-seatbelt campaigners.

However - there does appear to be a real trend towards airbag use now - and it will be very interesting to see how things go - and to see how punters like me do when called upon to deploy, rather than the pros who have been using them so far.

Papasmurf - I think the chances of keeping an avalung in your mouth as you are spun around are low.
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stoatsbrother wrote:
Chasseur, I saw that article and was totally unconvinced. To me it smacked of the stuff said by anti-seatbelt campaigners.

However - there does appear to be a real trend towards airbag use now - and it will be very interesting to see how things go - and to see how punters like me do when called upon to deploy, rather than the pros who have been using them so far.


That wasn't my read on it - more that the guy was saying that the airbag may not be right in every avalanche situation, assuming one has the prior knowledge of terrain, snow pack, condition variables, history etc.

I wonder whether the growing use of airbags may encourage some people to take more risks or ignore some warnings if they feel "immune" from the dangers. That said, the kit is quite expensive, so one would have to be pretty serious to invest those sums, I suppose.
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Chasseur, fair points,

I suspect the people who really feel no fear are either the back-country skiers/boarders in their 20s who feel immortal and don't take the gear at all, or those who by years of getting away with it become numb to the risk - which may include the Pros.
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sah wrote:
Layne wrote:
That must have been a monster. I've used Total Ski once. Scary as hell out there at the moment despite only being grade 3.


Level 3 is "Considerable" on the European scale. Level 3 is when most avalanche deaths occur*, primarily because people under estimate the level of risk when it is level 3. [/url]


Risk 2 at the time of the avalanche.
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Interesting [url=http://www.henrysavalanchetalk.com/tragic-accidents-val-disère-season-january-11-two-others]article[/url] by Henry Schniewind of HAT on the fatal avalanches in Val d'Isere.
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