 Poster: A snowHead
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@DaddyLouLou, can't see why not -an LFT is an LFT!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@albob, That's what I was thinking
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Hurtle wrote: |
| Good thread, thanks. It's the risk of being stuck abroad which is causing me to cancel trips at the moment, so I shall watch developments with interest, especially the actual rules. |
The tricky thing about planning it all the way through, doesn't help that rules change quite quickly (as I suppose they have to). We don't need to test to come back from next week, but there's no guarantee that won't have changed in a month.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@SnoodlesMcFlude,
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there's no guarantee that won't have changed in a month.
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Indeed. And if you do get it (presumably with symptoms) local self- isolation rules will still apply.
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@albob, I still don't get the booking thing. I have a Randox LFT which I was planning on taking and submitting when I return. Is this now obsolete?
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| MorningGory wrote: |
| @albob, I still don't get the booking thing. I have a Randox LFT which I was planning on taking and submitting when I return. Is this now obsolete? |
If you have a PLF code with it then it’s fine. If you don’t, they might let you have one. Or just make one up, as i understand works just as well. 
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The test kits are identical, but allocated for different purposes. Some are recorded differently to others for official notification. i.e fit to fly just has a QR code issued saying you are -ve, the 2 day return result would be notified to track and trace,
With past changes, most providers have let people repurposed tests they have already bought. Usually just needs a phone call and they amend their records, but might need to pay any price difference.
You might get a different reference number as they may be allocated by intended use.
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It's just a box with the bits in. Haven't opened it yet, but can't see that it would have anything like a unique ref in it, although it does have a 'ref L031-xxxyx' printed on it along with a lot number. Nowt relating to a date though.
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| MorningGory wrote: |
| @albob, I still don't get the booking thing. I have a Randox LFT which I was planning on taking and submitting when I return. Is this now obsolete? |
Neither do I : thought it might be so they had a log of people entering and could then check if the had followed the correct procedure?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| MorningGory wrote: |
| @albob, I still don't get the booking thing. I have a Randox LFT which I was planning on taking and submitting when I return. Is this now obsolete? |
I’m in the same position but with tests from C19 that weren’t needed when the rules changed in October. Was going to use them as our test to return. Have just fired off a message to C19 to see if they can be used for Day 2 & if they have PLF codes they can give us. Will let you know what they say when I hear back.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I believe the Randox PLF codes start: RANDX and then 7 digits. For example, RANDX3945678
I'm pretty sure there's no checksum buried in there, because when I ordered 4 tests, all apart from the final digit were the same, and the final digits were sequential.
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What would snowheads do if you or a member of your ski party gets cold symptoms whilst out in resort now?
If you test and are positive, then I guess you straight into quarantine and miss the flight home, potentially stranding you until the next flight available, which could be the next Saturday, if flying out of Austria.
Or do you ignore and get on with your holiday, now we don’t have to pre-departure test?
A troubling dilemma, I’m sure and one I hope not to be faced with in 10 days time.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Chuckles3, @snowdave,
What's a PLF code?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@2planks, good question
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Poster: A snowHead
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@MorningGory, the code required by the UK Passenger Locator Form filled in prior to reaching UK border?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| MorningGory wrote: |
@Chuckles3, @snowdave,
What's a PLF code? |
You have to enter a booking reference for the Day 2 test on the UK Passenger Locator Form (PLF) before you can finalise the form to return. When I twice did Randox day 2 tests last year, they sent these codes in the confirmatory email immediately on ordering.
It’s a shame you can’t do the UK form in advance (unlike many others) as you’d be able to ‘test’ the theory that anything will work in the booking reference field.
Does that make sense?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@MorningGory, you need a code from your booked test to put on your form before you return to UK
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@ster, @alasdair.graham, Cheers. Haven't got that far yet as I don't know which of 2 booked flights I'll be on 
So hopefully Randox can supply me with a code for the test I have.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Ive emailed Randox to see if the return to UK test can be repurposed as a Day 2 test. seems like a massive waste if not as after all its the same thing just without a booking ref.
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@2planks, that is a good question, but fully vaccinated contacts don't have to isolate, do they, if they test negative? As the numbers of Omicron infections continues to soar the whole question of isolation, and the impact of isolation (not just on people in busy hotels who have sat at a whole lot of different tables with a whole lot of different people) will have to be revisited. Given that many people with no or few symptoms won't test, and even if they do, might well not isolate, or tell their contacts, the whole thing pretty rapidly becomes pointless.
It makes sense for us all, now, to assume we will encounter infected people any time we go out. We either have to rely on our immune systems, or stay at home. I am doing the former (was at the theatre last night, everyone masked, and am about to go to a Pilates class) but I wouldn't spend the evening in a crowded pub or go to a nightclub. Though normally, of course, I'm out clubbin' every night....
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Randox now mention the new 2 day LFT.
@therock, hope you have more luck with your query than I had....
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| pam w wrote: |
| that is a good question, but fully vaccinated contacts don't have to isolate, do they, if they test negative? |
They may not have to in the UK, but that is not the same in all other countries, and you would be obliged to follow their rules.
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@therock, hope you have more luck with your query than I had....
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im not expecting a positive response ! (excuse the pun)
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| MorningGory wrote: |
Randox now mention the new 2 day LFT.
@therock, hope you have more luck with your query than I had....
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Looks like they have increased their prices for this test. I paid £14.95 for my Austria trip on the 19th Dec
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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That's what I paid for the existing test
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| 2planks wrote: |
What would snowheads do if you or a member of your ski party gets cold symptoms whilst out in resort now?
If you test and are positive, then I guess you straight into quarantine and miss the flight home, potentially stranding you until the next flight available, which could be the next Saturday, if flying out of Austria.
Or do you ignore and get on with your holiday, now we don’t have to pre-departure test?
A troubling dilemma, I’m sure and one I hope not to be faced with in 10 days time. |
I would take a stash of NHS lateral flow tests with me.
If you test positive on one of your lateral flows while away, then perhaps self-isolating under the radar would be possible (maybe find a self check-in airbnb somewhere nearby for a week?). If you want to be covered by insurance for the additional costs though, you might need to get a test done locally and get absorbed into the local quarantine system.
If it's a driving holiday, you could just drive straight home as you won't be encountering anyone else on the journey.
It will certainly be a hassle whatever happens! Especially if kids are involved.
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| Scarlet wrote: |
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| that is a good question, but fully vaccinated contacts don't have to isolate, do they, if they test negative? |
They may not have to in the UK, but that is not the same in all other countries, and you would be obliged to follow their rules. |
I have tried to find the rules for Austria but it’s proving difficult. I’m guessing they don’t temperature check you on the way out of Austria at the airport.
Seeing as Omicron produces the same symptoms as a common cold, it would be a very difficult decision to get an official test done as you are potentially are quarantining yourself for 14 days!
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You know it makes sense.
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@2planks, there was a report recently where a family reported a positive test to the authorities (in Austria) and the family were then carted of to a quarantine hotel
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@albob, They reported themselves (in a way) to the authorities, so were obliged then to do as they were told. @2planks, No, you won't be temperature checked, and if you are wearing an FFP2 mask, any symptoms will likely be hidden behind it. No one is going to ask you to remove you mask to see if you've got a runny nose!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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If I understand you right
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What would snowheads do if you or a member of your ski party gets cold symptoms whilst out in resort now?
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... you are asking whether people would do an LFT if they get cold symptoms, or whether they'd ignore the symptoms hoping it's not covid (and not wanting to isolate if it is)?
Moral quandary!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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If, as rumoured, Austria reduce the isolation period, then it might be an easier dilemma to answer.
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Very impressed with C19 Testing. They’ve already got back to me with a link to repurpose my excess tests into Day 2 tests. I shall definitely use them again.
This is the link in case anyone else has tests from C19 - https://www.c19testing.co.uk/generateplfref
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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... you are asking whether people would do an LFT if they get cold symptoms, or whether they'd ignore the symptoms hoping it's not covid (and not wanting to isolate if it is)?
Moral quandary!
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I would feel very guilty if I got on a plane, coach / train transfer with symptoms & avoided testing purposefully out there but subsequently tested positive . Will take some LFTs on my next trip for that purpose
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@brownie, i agree, but this is now the reality of society (here in the UK at least). I think it is a resonable expectation that wherever you go now, you will be in contact with +ve folk.
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| brownie wrote: |
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... you are asking whether people would do an LFT if they get cold symptoms, or whether they'd ignore the symptoms hoping it's not covid (and not wanting to isolate if it is)?
Moral quandary!
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I would feel very guilty if I got on a plane, coach / train transfer with symptoms & avoided testing purposefully out there but subsequently tested positive . Will take some LFTs on my next trip for that purpose |
I attend sports and social sessions indoors with 5-25 people several times weekly. I don't test every day but maybe a couple of times a week. Obviously I would isolate if positive but my point is it's actually really hit and miss. And actually if people are fully jabbed, masked and there is good ventilation actually you start to think everything has been done.
I remember there being discussions at work in years gone by about people coming into work and coughing/sneezing their way through the day.
Not saying what is right or wrong as such just the supporting the moral quandary statement.
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@Layne I think you are complicating something quite straight forward
The scenario is quite simple. You are on holiday and you develop symptoms that could be COVID. You have 2 choices
1. You test yourself because you don’t want risk harming/infecting others while there
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2. You don’t test yourself because you don’t risk the inconvenience of having to self isolate on holiday Irrespective of the harm it might cause others
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That proposition is not exactly phrased in a neutral way, @brownie. Bit of a "have you stopped beating your wife?" job.
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What’s not neutral about it?
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That proposition is not exactly phrased in a neutral way, @brownie. Bit of a "have you stopped beating your wife?" job.
Thu 06 Jan, 22
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