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Watching the Olympic coverage in France just shows how differently they treat winter sports. Wall to wall TV coverage in the same vein as our summer Olympic coverage and the support the French athletes get is fantastic, whether they are likely to come in 30th place or 1st place.
Huge shame they didn't allow Emily to compete, as others have said it is the one event where an upset is a real possibility.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Okanagan wrote: |
Anyone else notice that there was a British skier in the moguls finals - only he was competing for France because of the lack of GB funding  |
I saw Charlotte Bankes was snowboarding and Lloyd Jones was skating for France and of course Ophelie David's husband, Phil, is English. Charlotte Bankes has two brothers, one of which skis for France too.
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Well I've been busy 'discussing' the selection criteria with Konrad via facebook and apparently it is all our fault we have rubbish criteria!
"The selection criteria were published Nov 2012, and there were no issues with the published criteria then. Everyone had the opportunity to voice any concerns at the appropriate time. The selection process has ways been open, fair and reasonable. It is not designed to trick people out of participating at the Olympic Games. So if you feel that there are issues with the selections standards, then these should have been raised at the appropriate time."
I'm pretty sure people did raise concerns at the appropriate time and were basically told to get lost Paddy and Konrad were the experts.
Oh and as an aside if the men's ski cross final had been a race in the qualifying period and the bronze medallist British his performance in the competition wouldn't have good enough to cout towards his qualification as in the seeding rounds he was more than 4% slower than the fastest! If that doesn't show the selection criteria are bizarrely flawed I don't know what does!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| davidof wrote: |
| Okanagan wrote: |
| Anyone else notice that there was a British skier in the moguls finals - only he was competing for France because of the lack of GB funding |
I saw Charlotte Bankes was snowboarding and Lloyd Jones was skating for France and of course Ophelie David's husband, Phil, is English. Charlotte Bankes has two brothers, one of which skis for France too. |
Emma Carrick Anderson did an interview yesterday on the BBC with Kenza Tazi who has dual British/Maroccan (?) nationality and was competing in the ladies slalom. Fantastic exposure for Kenza, it's just a pity Charlotte Guest or Alex Tilley didn't get the same opportunity & exposure.
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| davkt wrote: |
Well I've been busy 'discussing' the selection criteria with Konrad via facebook and apparently it is all our fault we have rubbish criteria!
"The selection criteria were published Nov 2012, and there were no issues with the published criteria then. Everyone had the opportunity to voice any concerns at the appropriate time. The selection process has ways been open, fair and reasonable. It is not designed to trick people out of participating at the Olympic Games. So if you feel that there are issues with the selections standards, then these should have been raised at the appropriate time."
I'm pretty sure people did raise concerns at the appropriate time and were basically told to get lost Paddy and Konrad were the experts.
Oh and as an aside if the men's ski cross final had been a race in the qualifying period and the bronze medallist British his performance in the competition wouldn't have good enough to cout towards his qualification as in the seeding rounds he was more than 4% slower than the fastest! If that doesn't show the selection criteria are bizarrely flawed I don't know what does! |
Well it was discussed on here in Jan 2013 saying the criteria was so high we wouldn't be sending many athletes.
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=2219099&highlight=#2219099
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Yup and I've seen correspondence between people affected by the criteria and the BSS which I'd certainly class as raising concern.
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| stewart woodward wrote: |
| Emma Carrick Anderson did an interview yesterday on the BBC with Kenza Tazi who has dual British/Maroccan (?) nationality and was competing in the ladies slalom. Fantastic exposure for Kenza, it's just a pity Charlotte Guest or Alex Tilley didn't get the same opportunity & exposure. |
Looking at the start list Charlie and/or Alex would have started ahead of the fourth USA racer, some countries believe in filling their quota.
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Support Dan Yule starting in the mens slalom for Switzerland, yet could have been racing for GBR, Scottish mum if I remember correctly. Great young skier with a huge future.
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Both parents Scottish but born in Switzerland according to the BBC commentary, just the latest in a long list of skiers and borders who could represent the UK but have gone with the other possibility open to them which will actually support their ambition rather do everything it can to crush it!
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davkt, very true, unfortunately.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Just watched the 2nd run of the slalom. Looked really tough and some top skiers didn't make it. Big up for Dave Ryding for cracking the top 20.
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'Five-time Olympic skier and BBC commentator Graham Bell said: "We had two top-20 performances, but there should have been more skiers here. I don't think the selection policy reflected the ability we have in alpine skiing and we should have seen the likes of Dougie Crawford and TJ Baldwin representing us in men's downhill.'
have to agree with this sentiment , think these guys have been very badly let done by the selectors , we need representation in all events , and the country would have been right behind them
same goes for emily sarsfield
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You know it makes sense.
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Dabber, I think virtually all of us here agree with Graham Bell's comment. It's just unfortunate that the BSS selectors don't.... 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Alastair Pink wrote: |
| Dabber, I think virtually all of us here agree with Graham Bell's comment. It's just unfortunate that the BSS selectors don't.... |
And from my ongoing facebook PM argument with him about the selection (although he seems to have gone quiet now) Konrad B is absolutely certain he and Paddy are doing an absolutely brilliant job of managing British world class level ski and snowboarding!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I received an email today from Snowsport Scotland congratulating all of the GB athletes and rightly so , to be selected and represent GB is an honour and recognition of reaching the highest level. What interested me more was the finish place each athalete achieved and the number of competitors in the event. Based upon these numbers I again see no justfication for leaving Emily , Dougie , TJ , Charlie and Alex out on the basis that they would not acheive a podium or put in a credible performance.
Extract of email :-
On top of Jones' 3rd place there were some amazing top-10 finishes from other athletes taking on the park and pipe features in Sochi! Whilst battling an injury, James Woods gave it everything to finish 5th in ski slopestyle whilst Katie Summerhayes qualified 3rd for the final finishing 7th overall in the Women's ski slopestyle.
Scottish halfpipe skier, Murray Buchan, achieved 17th place with a couple of strong runs in the ski halfpipe. A great accomplishment in his first Olympics and we look forward to seeing more of Murray in the future!
See the full results from the skiers and boarders below:
James Woods (Ski Slopestyle) - 5th /32 competitors
Jamie Nicholls (Snowboard Slopestyle) - 6th /29 competitors
Katie Summerhayes (Ski Slopestyle) - 7th /22 competitors
Zoe Gillings (Snowboard Cross) - 9th /24 competitors
Billy Morgan (Snowboard Slopestyle) - 10th /29 competitors
Dave Ryding (Men's Slalom) - 17th /117 competitors
Murray Buchan (Ski Halfpipe) - 17th /28 competitors
Aimee Fuller (Snowboard Slopestyle) - 17th /20 competitors
Emma Lonsdale (Ski Halfpipe) - 18th /23 competitors
Chemmy Alcott (Women's Downhill) - 19th /42 competitors
(Women's Super G ) - 23rd /50 competitors
James Machon (Ski Halfpipe) - 23rd /28 competitors
Andrew Musgrave (Cross Country) Individual Sprint Free - 29th /85 competitors
15 km classic - 44th /92 competitors
50km mass start - 53rd /60 competitors
Ben Kilner (Snowboard Halfpipe) - 34th /39 competitors
Dom Harington (Snowboard Halfpipe) - 38th /39 competitors
Andrew Young (Cross Country) - 15km classic - 37th /92 competitors
Individual Sprint Free - 42nd /85 competitors
Posy Musgrave (Cross Country) - Individual Sprint Free - 42nd /67 competitors
10km classic - 66th /76 competitors
Callum Smith (Cross Country) - Individual Sprint Free - 62nd /85 competitors
15km classic - 67th /92 competitors
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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From those figures above, Dave Ryding looks to be the pick of the bunch, 17th out of a field of 117. Good on him...
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