 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Mmmm... this last few posts are playing on my mind now. Three of us are vaccinated and won't need to test but if my daughter (14) tests positive on one of her daily tests....
Sure chances are low but there is still a chance. She and my son will have been in school until the day we travel. So if that does happen will the pharmacy/testing centre revoke all of our ski passes? How much policing of the result would there be? We could drive to our in laws in Germany to isolate but could we do that?
All of this is making me think. And thinking hurts.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Layne, I'm just hoping beyond hope that they sort out access to vaccination status in time for our trip.
That said, my son will be double jabbed and recovered so his antibodies should be sky high, which will hopefully reduce the risk.
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| Layne wrote: |
| .....All of this is making me think. And thinking hurts. |
Same. My head is screaming from the 'what ifs'.... I've not slept right for the last week, I'm just having weird dreams what could happen. I just wanted a holiday 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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My Ellie had most her mocks over the last two weeks, but her art one was rescheduled for tomorrow or Friday (can’t recall and I only know based on what she said). However they are doing another English and Maths papers in February. I am now getting twitchy as to which side of half term!
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| Specialman wrote: |
| Layne wrote: |
| .....All of this is making me think. And thinking hurts. |
Same. My head is screaming from the 'what ifs'.... I've not slept right for the last week, I'm just having weird dreams what could happen. I just wanted a holiday |
Yep, same here.
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From 4 December, fully vaccinated travellers (12 years old or more), and whatever their nationality, have to provide the result of a negative PCR or antigen test (in paper or digital format) carried out less than 48h hours prior to departure.
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| under a new name wrote: |
| @JamesHJ, I've had my (French) carte de sejour checked both last times by the CH flying into Geneva. Maybe I have a dodgy air about me. |
At GVA arrival border? Or crossing into France?
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| NickyJ wrote: |
| My Ellie had most her mocks over the last two weeks, but her art one was rescheduled for tomorrow or Friday (can’t recall and I only know based on what she said). However they are doing another English and Maths papers in February. I am now getting twitchy as to which side of half term! |
Being stuck Reblechon-side won't be held against her, not for a mock. They can stick her in a room at lunchtime almost, and get it done.You could stay home and she could go pos...
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@rjj501, At GVA arrival border passport control, and at least once they asked to see my declaration d'honneur too.
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Does the 17 day quarantine have any kind of age limit? We have a 4 year old who is under the age limit to need any testing but would he be caught by the 17 days if one of us did test positive as he is obviously unvaccinated? Everyone else in our group are adults who are fully vaccinated so other than him would be under the 10 day limit.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| under a new name wrote: |
| @rjj501, At GVA arrival border passport control, and at least once they asked to see my declaration d'honneur too. |
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Finally galvanised the family re skiing and we're now wanting ideally to hop on an overnight ferry Friday - or Saturday morning. Cannot find a walk in test centre anywhere that has slots before then! Can anyone recommend a VERY fast covid test company by post that they've had a good experience of please?
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You know it makes sense.
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Returning to the latest news on this; from the DT https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/12/07/europes-biggest-omicron-outbreak-appears-mild-say-norway-covid/
The omicron outbreak at an Oslo Christmas party seen as "the biggest in the world outside of South Africa", is so far only causing mild disease, with Norway's state epidemiologist expressing hope it might mark the beginning of the end for the pandemic.
As many as 120 people who attended the Louise Restaurant and Bar on the night of November 26th have now tested positive for coronavirus, about half of whom have screened positive for omicron, with 13 of those proven to have the variant in sequencing.
"They have symptoms like fever, cough, headache, muscle pain, fatigue, but for now, none of them has become severely ill, and none of them have been treated in hospital," Tine Ravlo, the Oslo infectious disease doctor responsible, told The Telegraph.
Fingers crossed for it to remain relatively mild.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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What is meant by the French not accepting LFT that is 'self administered', most of the private ones in UK are. Are people ignoring this, or this maybe why there are stories of LFTs being turned awayby airlines.
How would someone looking at a cert differentiate between say a Chronomics LFT cert (self admin and upload) and a DAM health LFT cert (in centre, prof admin)?
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Poster: A snowHead
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| midgetbiker wrote: |
What is meant by the French not accepting LFT that is 'self administered', most of the private ones in UK are. Are people ignoring this, or this maybe why there are stories of LFTs being turned awayby airlines.
How would someone looking at a cert differentiate between say a Chronomics LFT cert (self admin and upload) and a DAM health LFT cert (in centre, prof admin)? |
Do you mean as the daily 24hr tests, or for re-entry to UK? I’ve been informed by my TO that a lateral flow by the likes of Randox is sufficient for re-entry… hoping the rules haven’t changed…
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| midgetbiker wrote: |
What is meant by the French not accepting LFT that is 'self administered', most of the private ones in UK are. Are people ignoring this, or this maybe why there are stories of LFTs being turned awayby airlines.
How would someone looking at a cert differentiate between say a Chronomics LFT cert (self admin and upload) and a DAM health LFT cert (in centre, prof admin)? |
I think those stories are from people turning up with an NHS one. In fact, the French gov website has reworded their thing to basically say don't use an NHS one.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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What is meant by the French not accepting LFT that is 'self administered', most of the private ones in UK are. Are people ignoring this, or this maybe why there are stories of LFTs being turned awayby airlines.
How would someone looking at a cert differentiate between say a Chronomics LFT cert (self admin and upload) and a DAM health LFT cert (in centre, prof admin)? |
We've just spoken to Medicspot (very professional sounding) who told us that their LFT tests will not do for entry to France. Apparently no self administered test will cut it - we will have to go to a clinic for this
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Specialman wrote: |
| midgetbiker wrote: |
What is meant by the French not accepting LFT that is 'self administered', most of the private ones in UK are. Are people ignoring this, or this maybe why there are stories of LFTs being turned awayby airlines.
How would someone looking at a cert differentiate between say a Chronomics LFT cert (self admin and upload) and a DAM health LFT cert (in centre, prof admin)? |
Do you mean as the daily 24hr tests, or for re-entry to UK? I’ve been informed by my TO that a lateral flow by the likes of Randox is sufficient for re-entry… hoping the rules haven’t changed… |
For re-entry to UK then they are fine.
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@shiprat, I just used their trip planner for France and it came up with the fit2fly antigen test.
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| shiprat wrote: |
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What is meant by the French not accepting LFT that is 'self administered', most of the private ones in UK are. Are people ignoring this, or this maybe why there are stories of LFTs being turned awayby airlines.
How would someone looking at a cert differentiate between say a Chronomics LFT cert (self admin and upload) and a DAM health LFT cert (in centre, prof admin)? |
We've just spoken to Medicspot (very professional sounding) who told us that their LFT tests will not do for entry to France. Apparently no self administered test will cut it - we will have to go to a clinic for this |
That's what I believe, but i'm wondering if anyone can actually tell the difference in France?
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I'm not sure they are by the letter of the law, but in practice they may well be.
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| BoardieK wrote: |
| @shiprat, I just used their trip planner for France and it came up with the fit2fly antigen test. |
Who's trip planner?
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| Specialman wrote: |
| midgetbiker wrote: |
What is meant by the French not accepting LFT that is 'self administered', most of the private ones in UK are. Are people ignoring this, or this maybe why there are stories of LFTs being turned awayby airlines.
How would someone looking at a cert differentiate between say a Chronomics LFT cert (self admin and upload) and a DAM health LFT cert (in centre, prof admin)? |
Do you mean as the daily 24hr tests, or for re-entry to UK? I’ve been informed by my TO that a lateral flow by the likes of Randox is sufficient for re-entry… hoping the rules haven’t changed… |
Neither, I mean for entry into France.
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@midgetbiker, Medicspot, its on their home page.
Last edited by snowHeads are a friendly bunch. on Tue 7-12-21 16:55; edited 1 time in total
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Timmycb5 wrote: |
| midgetbiker wrote: |
What is meant by the French not accepting LFT that is 'self administered', most of the private ones in UK are. Are people ignoring this, or this maybe why there are stories of LFTs being turned awayby airlines.
How would someone looking at a cert differentiate between say a Chronomics LFT cert (self admin and upload) and a DAM health LFT cert (in centre, prof admin)? |
I think those stories are from people turning up with an NHS one. In fact, the French gov website has reworded their thing to basically say don't use an NHS one. |
Can you point me at that re-wording please.
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| BoardieK wrote: |
| @midgetbiker, Medicspot, its on their home page. |
Yep just checked it and it does, plus it knows you need a 48hr (or 24 if unvax) and so has been updated for recent changes. Yet that flys in the face of the advice given to @shiprat and the French websites I've seen.
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You know it makes sense.
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| shiprat wrote: |
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What is meant by the French not accepting LFT that is 'self administered', most of the private ones in UK are. Are people ignoring this, or this maybe why there are stories of LFTs being turned awayby airlines.
How would someone looking at a cert differentiate between say a Chronomics LFT cert (self admin and upload) and a DAM health LFT cert (in centre, prof admin)? |
We've just spoken to Medicspot (very professional sounding) who told us that their LFT tests will not do for entry to France. Apparently no self administered test will cut it - we will have to go to a clinic for this |
They're doing themselves out of business.
This is the exact wording.
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| Tests whose results are not certified by a laboratory (such as the self-administered tests provided free of charge by the NHS) are not considered valid for travel. |
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Eurotunnel currently states:
2. Negative COVID tests
Fully vaccinated passengers over 12 years of age require a negative result from a non-NHS PCR test or a non-NHS Antigen (lateral flow) test taken no more than 48 hours before travel (find a private test provider). Passengers may be required to submit to a virological screening test or biological examination by the French authorities upon arrival.
At French border controls you will need to present digital or paper evidence of the negative result from the private test provider.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Timmycb5 & @BoardieK excellent thx, one less headache.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| midgetbiker wrote: |
| Neither, I mean for entry into France. |
If that’s the case, that’s us stuffed as we’ve ordered Randox ones to take 48hrs before flying out
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| under a new name wrote: |
| @rjj501, At GVA arrival border passport control, and at least once they asked to see my declaration d'honneur too. |
I always offer my TdS to avoid a stamp but not had a request for the declaration yet. Might start filling those out pre-flight… I’ve got a stash of them in my car ready to date and sign if the douanes were checking, but hadn’t counted on GVA checking them…! Thanks for the heads up!
I’ve previously used MedicSpot’s LFTs to get into France. Not sure if the rules have changed. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Medicspot appear to be wrong, they are taking the word "self-administered" too literally. Even a PCR test done at home is self-administered and even at the airport clinics you do the swab yourself.
On another thread here https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=157368 a testing firm (C19) have confirmed that their tests are valid for France as the "self-administered" phrase means a private lab doing the test, not the NHS. This mirrors what the French consulate website is saying. https://uk.ambafrance.org/COVID-19-rules-for-travel-between-France-and-the-UK-28918
Appreciate that there remains ambiguity between the government websites, testing providers and the airlines which is not helpful and will allow gate staff to interpret their own way.
Maybe go back to Medicspot and say to them "Okay, antigen fit to fly no good for France, can you offer me a PCR test instead as the French rules will accept a PCR test...." and see if they make you come to a clinic or if you can order a PCR test to do at home and send back for a result.....I suspect they'll let you do a self-administered PCR test for £75!
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I know the ones offered commercially are still self-administered, but my reading of that is they're valid for travel as they ARE certified by a laboratory. Sure you just upload picture of the result (and can therefore cheat it) but assume most people will play by the rules.
It's my intention to use these home tests ones in a few weeks to go to France - mind you this is 3 weeks again and could all change again by then
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| Specialman wrote: |
| midgetbiker wrote: |
| Neither, I mean for entry into France. |
If that’s the case, that’s us stuffed as we’ve ordered Randox ones to take 48hrs before flying out |
No, panic over, it was (is) just poor wording on some areas of the French Gov websites.
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Enquired with my LFT provider and was informed self administered means a test taken and then verified by the person who certifies their own result as positive or negative, i.e an NHS LFT. Tests where you take the test yourself but the result is certified by a doctor through a photo of the LFT are not classed as self administered. I will see if that’s correct at the Eurotunnel on Friday morning!
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Am I correct in thinking that if we fly into GVA and then onto france then a PCR is required?
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@ianvip, Yes.
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Definately worth bringing a laptop so we can WFH.
