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"Targeting specific racial groups", countries with predominant religious groups, and countries with fictitious 'weapons of mass destruction' is actually an excellent way of increasing terrorism.
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Mr. Goldsmith, ch ch ch you naughty boy. Terrorism is way down in the US  no attacks since 9/11 Read this from senator John Glenn, very good piece of reading. Masque for you to buddy  Wish I was there, May be a lil off topic but after reading D g orf posts
Must Read by Sen. John Glenn
Body: Possibly John Glenn's finest moment~~
Regardless of your political views, this certainly gives us all food for
thought. Sen.
Glenn was so quick on his feet. When you speak from the heart and with passion,
you never know what comes out.
-------SENATOR JOHN GLENN SAID:
Things that make you think a little.......
1. There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of
January.....In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of
January. That's just one American City , about as deadly as the entire war torn
country of Iraq
2. When some claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the
following .
FDR...led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. From
1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.
Truman...finished that war and started one in Korea , North Korea never attacked
us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,334 per year.
John F. Kennedy....started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked
us. Johnson...turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were
lost, an average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton...went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never
attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by
Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
3. In the two years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has liberated
two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in
Libya , Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who
slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...It took
less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian
compound. That was a 51-day operation.
We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than
it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the
Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his
Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick killing a woman.
Wait, there's more......................
Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a
living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum
is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's
also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed
services do what they do for a living. This is a typical, though sad, example of
what some who have never served think of our military.
JOHN GLENN ON THE SENATE FLOOR Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13
Senator Howard Metzenbaum to Senator Glenn: "How can you run for Senate when
you've never held a real job?"
Senator Glenn: "I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served
through two wars. I flew 149 missions.
My plane was hit by antiaircraft fire on 12 different occasions.
I was in the space program.
It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line.
It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash
receipts to the bank. I ask you to go with me ... as I went the other day... to
a veteran's hospital and look those men - with their mangled bodies - in the
eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job! You go with me to the Space Program
at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus
Grissom and Roger Chaffee... and you look those kids in the eye and tell them
that their Dads didn't hold a job.
You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery ,
where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those
waving flags.
You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell ME that those
people didn't have a job? I'll tell you, Howard Metzenbaum; you should be on
your knees every day of your life thanking God that there were some men - SOME
MEN - who held REAL jobs. And they required a dedication to a purpose - and a
love of country and a dedication to duty that was more important than life
itself. And their self-sacrifice is what made this country possible.
I HAVE held a job, Howard! What about you?"
For those who don't remember - During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney
representing the Communist Party in the USA
If you can read this, thank a teacher.... If you are reading it in English thank
a Veteran.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Which just goes to show how many US citizens believe what they're told by their government 
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There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of
January.....In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of
January. That's just one American City , about as deadly as the entire war torn
country of Iraq
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errr and what about the non "combat related killings" in Iraq? What's his definition of "combat related"? Is a car bomb outside a mosque "combat related"? Are the kidnappings and murders of foreign workers/anyone working with the government "combat related"? I think the answer would be no.
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1. There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of
January.....In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of
January. That's just one American City , about as deadly as the entire war torn
country of Iraq |
How many people in Detroit walk round armed and with kevlar armour? how many of the murderers done so by blowing themselves up? And how many civilians and personnel not related to the US military died in that month? Once you know that, then and only then can you even stand a hope of drawing a fair answer from your biased conclusions.
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3. In the two years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has liberated
two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in
Libya , Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who
slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. |
Al Qaida aren't crippled. They are virtually de-centralised now, having spawned cells across the globe who don't rely on Osama Bin laden for orders.
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The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...It took
less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian
compound. That was a 51-day operation. |
But it ended there. The war in Iraq is ongoing, but now it isn't a single force that is the problem, it is groups. Small groups of insurgents, who don't play by the rules of conventional warfare, and inflict massive casualties. With this in mind, are you sure Iraq is 'taken'. 'Taken' makes me think of 'secured', and it sure isn't secure.
I could go on, but I really can't be bothered with completely picking your flawed logic apart. I have work to do.
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LOL
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mark_s, I think that's why no-one else is bothering 
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The answer with all these hypothetical questions is "yes" of course it could, but whether it would happen is another matter. My bet is that it wouldn't because there's not too much mileage with their perverse publicity in hitting specialist targets compared with others of more a high profile . That's not to say that holidaymakers are not vulnerable ie. Kusadasi, and Sharm-el-Sheikh in recent weeks. I think that our ski playgrounds are safe as anywhere for the time being. Let's not be complacent though!! and keep vigilant in places where there are large numbers of folks congregating.
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DAVID SNELL,
Thanks for getting back on the subject and waht you say.
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Let's not be complacent though!! and keep vigilant in places where there are large numbers of folks congregating.
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Western Holidaymakers are prime targets.
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huckingfellers,
Yeah rght 
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huckingfellers, um this from a fellow who works for the country who's military intelligence is a byword for foul up 
For your information I may be a civilian but I have several friends who are not and who have served or are currently serving in either Iraq or Afghanistan, the information I get from them is not very different to what the British Press has reported, but I cannot comment on how this compares to the US Press reports as I've not seen them.
By the way your statement concerning the Korean War is in error, North Korea did not launch an attack dirrectly against the continental US however it did invade South Korea and attacked the US army units based there at the time, it also attacked Seoul which at the time had a US diplomatic building (technically US soil). I know it's a technicallity but the hundreds of US army soldiers killed in that first wave of North Korean attacks might take issue with your statement that the North Koreans didn't start that war.
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Whenever I travel to the UK/Europe, I'm surprised at how much underlying racism there is. People don't even think of it as racism, but they totally judge others based on the colour of their skin. This thread is a perfect example.
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huckingfellers,
You did say in another thread that you were never going to post here again.
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| Don't waste your breath with a reply I won't be back to this forum |
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ponder, I'm not so sure, the original question asked could a terrorist attack occur in a ski resort, based on the fact that only a radical Islamic terrorist group would be likely to carry out that attack (no one else having any reason to do so) you can then analyse the likely chances of them doing so, most radical Islamic terrorists are not caucasian and in general in most ski resorts noncaucasians stand out because they are relatively rare it is not racist to simply state facts, it would be racist if I were to suggest that all non caucasians should be viewed with suspicion, but I've not done that and never will.
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Following on from D G Orf's post stating most terrorists are non-white (which I found offensive being non-white myself!) Why is it that some Americans seem to think that they has a nation can dictate to the rest of the world how they should/shouldn’t live their lives and run their own countries? I totally disagree with all forms of terrorism but understand why some people would be driven to extreme measures. Can anyone please answer truthfully whether they believe after the war in Iraq that the world is a safer place? or that the people of Iraq are better off and living truly wonderful lives under the banner of democracy ? I think that you would have to be living in cloud cuckoo land if you said yes!
Huckingfellers how may thousands of innocent people deaths (both "white" and "non-White" do you think Bush's actions have led to?
Just in case you think I'm some sort of tree-hugging anti American pacifist I actually served 12 years in the Royal Navy serving “Queen and Country” and during that time one of the operations I was involved in was carrying out the NATO blockade of the former Yugoslavia with both the American and several European countries an operation that could of saved countless more lives if it had started years earlier! But unfortunately there weren’t any massive Oil reserves to protect! But as you said everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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| ...or that the people of Iraq are better off and living truly wonderful lives under the banner of democracy ? I think that you would have to be living in cloud cuckoo land if you said yes! |
That shows a lack of understanding of what Saddam-era Iraq was like. I'm not arguing for one moment that Iraqis are "living truly wonderful lives" under the current circumstances, but the path the country is on will most certainly take Iraq to a better place than the brutal disctatorship it was under Saddam. There is undoubtedly a long way to travel down that road, and I'm certain that the American-led coalition has made many mistakes in getting there, but what the Iraqis are trying to acheive is worth the pain they are going through at the moment in my opinion.
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| That shows a lack of understanding of what Saddam-era Iraq was like. |
Err not trying to belittle your point of view Rob or say that Saddam was a saint but had/have you actually been to Iraq ? Or are your opinions based on what you've heard/read second hand ? Please could you express an opinion on why America hasn't invaded places like North Korea if they are so concerned about brutal dictatorships ? or why they basically left the people of Mogadishu to the mercy of Psycotic warloads when they ran away ?
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huckingfellers, Kill the jingoism, it just makes you look a fool whether you are or not, you don't need it to prove a point here
You've reproduced a speech by Senator Glenn, are you trying to say that this is accurate or represents your views or is a justification for American diplomatic and military FUBARs?
Just a few Quickies. The Vietnam War STARTED in 1945. The first Americans were killed there in 1959. Kennedy officially committed US personnel to the South in 1961 as part of a global war against Communism and pressured by a Congress that p¡ssed its pants every-time Khrushchev opened his mouth. In 1963, Kennedy and the CIA were complicit in the assassination of the dictator leadership of the South and the instillation of a series of vicious and right-wing military government in that turned much of the South's population into collaborators with the NVA. It was Johnson in early '64 again with urging of a Congress that still worshiped the paranoia of McCarthy who escalated the commitment of US troops to a war that had no chance of winning anything. I was kinda interested in this in the late 60's for lots of personal reasons.
There are so many ways on the political and military front that Iraq resembles Vietnam that it's gut churning to watch the retards who pretend to govern us claim that everything takes them by surprise 
And answer me this. Afghanistan is a feudal mess that troops have to patrol in armoured convoy and no government system outside Kabul. It's now supplying about 70% of the Worlds heroin and the Taliban are just scattered and still in control of many areas . . . Did anyone mention Osama?
As for the Atomic inspectors. Libya, Iran and North Korea were negotiating or co-operating with the IAEA and the UN long before Shrub started crapping on diplomacy. They withdrew when the moron stood on top of his midden and screamed 'I'm the king of the World'. It took a lot of international diplomacy by the rest of the World to overcome that and bring people back to the 'table. . .
And answer me this . . . If Bush were that interested in Nuclear and weapons inspection . . . Why didn't he let the inspectors finish their job in Iraq?
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| That shows a lack of understanding of what Saddam-era Iraq was like. |
Err not trying to belittle your point of view Rob or say that Saddam was a saint but had/have you actually been to Iraq ? Or are your opinions based on what you've heard/read second hand ? Please could you express an opinion on why America hasn't invaded places like North Korea if they are so concerned about brutal dictatorships ? or why they basically left the people of Mogadishu to the mercy of Psycotic warloads when they ran away ? |
What I've read. I doubt that many individuals can talk from first-hand experience about what life is like across all of Iraq now, or what life was like under Saddam. If what I've read is wrong, I'd be happy to be corrected. If life for the majority of Iraqis was better under Saddam compared to where the Iraqi government is trying to get to then I would be interested to know.
What has Mogadishu or North Korea got to do with what I wrote? Are you trying to argue that America should invade every disfunctional country?
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The thread is
Could a Bali/Madrid/London attack happen in Meribel,Val d isere St Anton ?
I was really aiming at security in resorts.
Think the politics is drifting to much on Iraq, Mogadishu ,North Korea, Afghanistan etc.
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stanton, I suppose they could do this if they fancied a nice view and a bit of ski=ing or boarding beforehand, but I'd have thought there were an awful lot of easier / higher impact targets to hit first.
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stanton, I think the threat is always there to some extent. You'd just have to ask why a ski resort versus anything else. The pros for it as a target would that it could be seen as white & middle class. The target would have to be somewhere "target rich", would would probably mean either a crowded bar/hotel or alternatively a lift system. The terrorists aim is to cause fear. With a bomb at a major London train station, we can all sit back and thing "sh*t - I've been there". I can't see a bomb in a ski resort having the same effect. Most ski resorts are so multi-national that they might not have the desired affect of trying to apply political pressure to a single nation at a time. Some countries (e.g. Austria) get a significant proportion of their GDP through ski tourism. A sustained campaign against ski resorts in Austria could lead to a change of public/political opinion; but then Austria woudn't have the same motivations to Islaimic terrorists as perhaps Italy might.
Statistically speaking, I think you need to look at the number of people who die each year on the roads and non-terrorist related plane/train crashes. I don't personally see the risk as being big enough to worry about.
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D G Orf, you say that you don't look at people with suspicion because of the colour of their skin, but this post suggests just that:
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| stanton, it's a possibility but most terrorists these days are non white and most skiers are white so the chances are that they'd be noticed, there are exceptions of course but it would be harder to accomplish than say bombing an area that had a bigger diversity of race and colour |
But in any case my comment about racism was more aimed at this post:
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| Cathy CoinsSeriously though I think targeting specific racial groups is the only way to combat terrorism . . . what is the point in searching the bag of white middle class man with wife and 2.4 in tow. |
For one, compared to anything like car accidents, serious illnesses, or even global warming/enivornmental problems (in Toronto alone, over 50,000 people die from smaug related causes per year, and Hurricane Katrina was made much worse due to warmer seas), the number of people who die from terrorist attacks is utterly insignificant. Were all of this ridiculous attention and funding that goes towards "fighting terrorism" (especially in the US) to go into, say, following the Kyoto accord, there would be far less people dieing needlessly. Furthermore, by searching/discriminating against people of arab decent you are probably still not going to find that one terrorist in a million, and you'll just make things worse by further infuriating muslim extremists. "Fighting terrorism" is just another way of saying "turning arabs into second class citizens."
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| rob@rar.org.uk wrote: |
What has Mogadishu or North Korea got to do with what I wrote? Are you trying to argue that America should invade every disfunctional country? |
No that isn't what I was suggesting, far from it ! I asked whether you would express an opinion as to why America has chosen Iraq but hasn't touched places like North Korea ? Could you possibly tell me ?
Interesting article from Hans Blix who was never allowed to finish the weapons inspections because it was becoming apparent his findings would not be "advantageous to the USA"
COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Iraq is worse off now, after the U.S.-led invasion, than it was under Saddam Hussein, Hans Blix told a Danish newspaper Tuesday.
"What's positive is that Saddam and his bloody regime is gone, but when figuring out the score, the negatives weigh more," the former chief U.N. weapons inspector was quoted as saying in the daily newspaper Jyllands Posten.
"That accounts for the many casualties during the war and the many people who still die because of the terrorism the war has nourished," he said. "The war has liberated the Iraqis from Saddam, but the costs have been too great."
Blix, whose inspection team didn't make any significant weapons finds during months of searching Iraq before the war, has sharply criticized the United States and Britain for their invasion of Iraq to topple Saddam Hussein's regime.
The primary reason given for the invasion was to rid the country of weapons of mass destruction. None were found during or after the invasion.
The former Swedish foreign minister currently heads a newly created Stockholm-based independent commission on weapons of mass destruction.
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Type23, I didn't mean that most terrorists are non white, I meant to say that most radical Islamic terrorists are non white and that these terrorists are currently the only ones likely to attack a European resort, however terrorists generally achive their aims by blending in with the surrounding society until they perform their outrages, this is very unlikely to occur in a European Ski resort (with a few exceptions) as such the chances of an attack occuring in such a resort is relatively low, you are much much more likely to find the airport being targeted than the resort
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Type23, as I didn't express an opinion about why America invaded Iraq, I'm not entirely sure why expressing an opinion about Somalia or North Korea is relevant. If you want to start a discussion on those points perhaps a different thread and a different part of snowHeads would be more appropriate?
The point I responded to was your comment that:
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| (Can anyone please answer truthfully whether they believe) that the people of Iraq are better off and living truly wonderful lives under the banner of democracy ? I think that you would have to be living in cloud cuckoo land if you said yes! |
I don't think it is too much of a stretch to take from your comment that you believe that under Saddam Iraq, if not exactly providing a 'wonderful life', was at least tolerable for its citizens. I disagree with that, and believe it is based on a misunderstanding of what Iraq was like for many, many Iraqis.
You note that Hans Blix argues that the cost that Iraq is now paying for getting rid of Saddam is too high. I disagree. I think Blix is wrong. For every Swedish intellectual who argues that keeping Saddam in power was a better option, I'm certain that a quick Google would be able to find an Iraqi intellectual who very firmly believes the opposite.
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man I love getting you guys going! It is so damn easy, LOL. boredsurfin, You are correct I did say that. Should of said post or thread etc.. , right?
Never once did I say that Iraq is not like Vietnam. Cause it is in fact like it in more ways than one. Also different from it in more ways than one. The country is 100% better off with saddam and his regime out of power. You have no idea how many times I have been hugged and kissed by men and women thanking me and every other UK and American soldier for ousting that loser and his regime. poo-poo he even admitted to killign over 80,000 people with his chemical attacks on his own countrymen. I guess what I am saying is I get a real good laugh out of alot of the people on these forums who think they know it all and are some kind of "Political Buff". How can you know anything first hand of what happened there and what is still going on. You can't, all you know is what you read and see on "produce whatever we want TV" I was there! People still hung up on the WMD bs are a damn joke! If you cant see the real big picture why open your mouth. Why dont you grown some balls and go server your country. Then you will have a real view of what is going. People also died in Iraq before the official start of the war Masque 1 of them out of my platoon 2 months before the official start of the "war". Most civilians dont know squat about what is really going on there. As much as they would like to think they do. Don't forget the only reason you are free to do as you will is because of people like me and many before me. Remember that!!!!!!
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| Don't forget the only reason you are free to do as you will is because of people like me and many before me. Remember that!!!!!! |
So what do want ?
A f***in medal ?
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boredsurfin, You are correct I did say that.
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| huckingfellers wrote: |
man I love getting you guys going! It is so damn easy, LOL. ...
I guess what I am saying is I get a real good laugh out of alot of the people on these forums who think they know it all and are some kind of "Political Buff". |
He is just beneath contempt! If you want to discuss important issues, that's fine. But if you're enjoying being here to wind up other contributors I guess that I'm not the only one who thinks you're not welcome. Isn't there some other place you can go?
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You definately have no idea what you are talking about if you are goiung to try and tell me that Iraq is anything like NYC or London!!! Please!!!! I am sure you were not in any of those countrys as a combatant either! Therefore you would not hear or see the things that I have. All this BS started with the US pretty much when the Saudi Government tossed Osama and his mujihadeen fighters out in favor of the US to liberate Kuwait! That pissed Osama off and ever since he and his band of crazies have been out to hit us hard. Just one of many reasons and many years of trouble before and after that too, I know . But!
As far as Bush being a mass murder, whatever, you always believe what you read?? Though they were very interesting reads and things I did not know about. Corruption like that exists in every government. At least Bush and Blar are not mass murdering their own country men, like 80,000 at a time with chemicals. Or hanging citizens from meat hooks to torture them, or letting their sons kill random husbands because they want to get a little from the guys wife!! NYC AND LONDON IS LIKE IRAQ HAHAHAHAHAHA now that is ridiculous!!! Come up with that on the back of a cereal box??
I have plenty of places to go. But this is to much fun, at least till the snow falls!
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huckingfellers, I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with any of your views about anything, here or in any other thread but one of the reasons why I rarely contribute to threads about anything other than "fluff" subjects (skiing etc..) is because I don't want to have my views ridiculed by someone who thinks they are above anyone else.
I don't think it's very nice of you to say people think they know it all etc... (and to be fair, you're the one talking like you know it all actually).
I appreciate you're a solider (retired or whatever) and that gives you a certain perspective, feeling of gained knowledge etc... but does your experience of something make everyone elses experience or views less valid?
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And just to add to nightshift's point, your first post was pretty much complete crap. Instead of arguing the point or explaining further, your reply was I believe something along the lines of 'I'm a (retired) soldier so I know more than you all. You are just crappy citizens'. Which really isn't the best way to prove your maturity and validity.
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You definately have no idea what you are talking about if you are goiung to try and tell me that Iraq is anything like NYC or London!!! Please!!!! I am sure you were not in any of those countrys as a combatant either! Therefore you would not hear or see the things that I have. All this BS started with the US pretty much when the Saudi Government tossed Osama and his mujihadeen fighters out in favor of the US to liberate Kuwait! That pissed Osama off and ever since he and his band of crazies have been out to hit us hard. Just one of many reasons and many years of trouble before and after that too, I know . But!
As far as Bush being a mass murder, whatever, you always believe what you read?? Though they were very interesting reads and things I did not know about. Corruption like that exists in every government. At least Bush and Blar are not mass murdering their own country men, like 80,000 at a time with chemicals. Or hanging citizens from meat hooks to torture them, or letting their sons kill random husbands because they want to get a little from the guys wife!! NYC AND LONDON IS LIKE IRAQ HAHAHAHAHAHA now that is ridiculous!!! Come up with that on the back of a cereal box??
I have plenty of places to go. But this is to much fun, at least till the snow falls! |
It's because of people like you that the rest of the world hates Americans. You think America is the pillar of civilization, and the rest of the world is in a state of violent chaos, just waiting to be rescued.
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huckingfellers,
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You definately have no idea what you are talking about if you are goiung to try and tell me that Iraq is anything like NYC or London!!!
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OK your right and everyone else is wrong
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huckingfellers, just a quick question (or two!). How old are you, and how long were you in military service at which rank? Just interested to know.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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I read a book recently by Norwegian journalist and writer Åsne Seierstad, translated by Ingrid Christopherson
See review: A Hundred and One Days: a Baghdad Journal
A real insight into the conflicting emotions of Irakis before, during and after the invasion. I don't think you can really compare Baghdad with any Western city, theirs was a truly unique and devastating experience. The descriptions of the scenes when desperate relatives were searching the abandoned torture chambers after Saddam had fled were pretty horrific.
Skiing link - the translator Ingie is a long-standing member of the DHO, Norwegian-born but took British nationality and raced for GB on the European Cup circuit I think (a few years back when skis were roughly 1.5 times your height). She is now patron of the GB Children's Team.
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By giving an honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally.
The test features and unlikely, completely fictional situation in which you will have to make a decision. Remember that your answer
needs to be honest, yet spontaneous.
Please scroll down slowly and give due consideration to each line.
You are in Florida, Miami to be specific. There is chaos all around you caused by a hurricane with severe flooding. This is a flood of biblical proportions. You are a photojournalist working for a major newspaper, and you're caught in the middle of this epic disaster.
The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot career making photos. There are houses and people swirling around you, some disappearing under the water. Nature is unleashing all of its destructive fury.
Suddenly you see a man floundering in the water. He is fighting for his life, trying not to be taken down with the debris. You move closer... somehow the man looks familiar. You suddenly realise who it is.
It's George W Bush!
At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take him under ... forever. You have two options - you can:
save the life of G.W. Bush or you can shoot a dramatic Pulitzer Prize winning photo, documenting the death of one of the worlds most powerful men.
So here's the question, and please give an honest answer:
Would you select high contrast colour film, or would you go with the classic simplicity of black and white?
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