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How could piste maps be improved?

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altis, So I'm not the only one who would like them to be an actual map with contours. The pictorial ones look like some thing from a Tolkien book. I hate the bits where they have to warp the perspective in order to show both sides of the mountain on one picture.

Yellow Pyranha, I saw a hankie map in Meribel this year, although I'd tend not to try and use it as both a map and a hankie!

queen bodecia, I liked the max gradient signs in LaThuile. I'm just glad I didn't see the 72' sign at the top of the short black just above the village untill the second time I went down it!

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Dr John, where are you headed?
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How did I know Iphone was going to be mentionned...and by who... Toofy Grin
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agt wrote:
... I'm just glad I didn't see the 72' sign at the top of the short black just above the village untill the second time I went down it!...



I think that must have been percent, not degrees. I don't think it's possible to ski a 72 degree slope Shocked

( I KNOW it's not possible for me). Laughing

Actually I don't think it's possible to piste such a slope either. There was a thread about this the other day.....
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agt, I did see it and I took the blue down, a sedate 36%. However, I coped with the 65% blacks 3 and 33 and 62% black 2. There's a big difference when you get over 70% I think, it looked near vertical!
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agt, ah yes here it is:

http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=62739&start=40

Apols if you meant percent anyway. Little Angel
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A sample base map I made - very much a work in progress (and don't have the more recent versions to hand just now) for maps to use on Winterhighland next season that will show lift status and possibly for some areas run status.
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Winterhighland, I like that.
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Winterhighland, that's terrific!

I think the most useful are those great big boards at the top of a lift, which you can read without having to get yer specs out. Very helpful for the more elderly skier. Fortunately I mostly ski in an area where I know where everything is - and if I go somewhere else I try to make sure there's somebody else who has the eyesight to read the piste map. problem is, if it's my no 2 son, which it often is, I don't trust him to choose a sensible route. Since he tried to get me down the "piste perdu" in Val D'Isere in a white out and eventually confessed that it wasn't actually a "piste", in my meaning of the term.
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Scottish piste maps are just vague suggestions as to where a piste is created by dipping a worm in paint and letting it wriggle over the paper Laughing Laughing

Virtual maps : upload to your goggles and project a HUD in the lens or virtually just in front of the skier out of the immediate eyeline.
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Axsman, 3V, Mottaret, just in time for a big front to move in bringing cloud and rain. Cosmic.

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Dr John, 3V, Val T ditto. Although at 2700 it's forecast to fall as snow! Laughing

Was in Mottaret (at the Alpen Ruitor) last month - had a great time. Watch out for the Beer and Genepi prices though. Over £20 for one of each! Shocked
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Wasn't there a google street view of a piste? I know it wouldn't be a major help when out and about but would be useful when planning a day.
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Axsman, so not exactly slumming it, like your style. Will be heading high each day. What forecast are you reading? Snow-forecast has it snow at around 2000
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Dr John, Yes Snow-forecast is where I was looking. I just put 2700 because that's the 'mid' level at VT (and probably where we'll be skiing).

My membership just expired so I can only see 6 days out, but then I don't think the 9 day forecasts are very accurate anyway.

This trip will be a tad more economical as we are self catering. However with the two axsettes in tow, the bar bills should be truly wallet damaging Laughing

I'll have my netbook with me so will post on conditions up high as I find them. snowHead
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kitenski wrote:
get rid of them, stop the brutal grooming and have a huge 'in bounds' ski anywhere resort Smile


Quite. I like the idea a few US resorts have which is to designate lifts "Experts Only", "Advanced Only" etc.
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Didn't someone post on here recently about the Serre Chevalier piste map being available on a pair of boxers? Not terribly convenient up the mountain though.

I've got a sort of 3D fold up Verbier map in plastic, I think it was free with a very early Fall Line Skiing Magazine. Doesn't look very practical though.
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Axsman, will also try and post updates, t'internet connection and beer allowing.
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Dr John, Your netbook does beer? Coool! Madeye-Smiley
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Axsman, it's the macbook beer app, best thing they've ever done
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Soll did a plastic 3D map when we were there a few years ago & it was excellent Very Happy

It was slightly bulkier than a normal map but a million times better than the normal, flimsy paper versions you get everywhere else.
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Axsman, Sorry, I did mean %.

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Ideally the resorts would give their data to OSM - that way you could have contour maps, resorts comparisons, vector based map software, geotaged photos and whatever hasn't been though of yet.

andy, Very Happy

Winterhighland, is that a 3d model?
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I just ordered one of these for the EOSB.

http://store.snow-forecast.com/products/wipeout-piste-map-on-a-lens-cloth
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ringingmaster, I like those as an idea, I wonder how up to date they keep them.


I think they are new this year, so time will tell.


Hi there, I know that the wipe-outs are kept completely up to date, as you pointed out they are are new this year and all the wipe-outs have the 09-10 maps on them. The stock will be sold off, and new maps 10-11 used for next season, with more resorts included too... JulesSki Cool
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If you are thinking of buying one for EoSB, there is an EASTER DEAL: BUY 2 GET 1 FREE Buy 2, automatically get 1 free, any resort... if you buy them on ebay:

http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/Wipeout-Store

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I just ordered one of these for the EoSB.
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These new type of interactive piste maps by gPixs360 are pretty good and are the best I've seen yet. You can even load up videos of the runs! http://bit.ly/8Z8VXw Obviously of no use at all when you're out in resort, but great for pre ski trip nerding!
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I wonder if SH's approached the wipeout company with a bulk order how much we could get knocked off them?
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In the case of Les Crosets they could start by actually putting the runs on the bleedin' thing. Found a black run last week and an itineraearararary somewhere in the vicinity of the Grande Conche chair that were nowhere to be seen on the map.
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For your consideration, the piste map for Broken River and Craigieburn in NZ. Got to love a map that rates it's runs from Easy to Suicidal.
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Megamum wrote:
I wonder if SH's approached the wipeout company with a bulk order how much we could get knocked off them?


Actually, funny you should say that! Jules is a friend of mine and this is her very first year trading with Wipe-out. In the spirit of helping out a small business and raising some dosh for SHs we're talking to admin about getting something sorted on the EoSB page, however, in the meantime, Jules has put up a Snowheads EoSB special on her e-bay shop that includes free delivery at the EoSB by yours truely (for a small donation to SH coffers for every one delivered). I'll put it up on Buy / Sell etc but seemed worthwhile giving you the link here.... seeing as you asked so nicely.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110511706705

Getting very excited about EoSB..... less than a month to go!
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sarep, Wonderful if you are going to the EoSB!! Well done Wipeout, I would expect that to be popular. [Cheeky]I expect to be back in VT one day - can I have one at that price if I send you an envelope to post it to me[/Cheeky]
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Megamum, oh go on then! go ahead and purchase it and we'll send it to France!!! rolling eyes cheeky indeed....
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This is THE next giant leap for the humble piste map http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=63279
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If you want a Wipeout piste map on a goggle wipe cloth for the EoSB, then order them on ebay before 21 April for £4 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110511706705 and I'll deliver them to you in your apartment.

Otherwise I will have a limited number of extras available at 5 Euro for cash. They are getting quite popular.

Sare
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DO AWAY WITH PISTES would be a good start Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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I liked the fact that on the main chairlifts in Breckenridge (I’m sure other places might do this too, I think it’s a great idea) there is piste map built into a panel running across the safety bar.
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Gazzza, what a spiffing idea. Signposting at the top of lifts is generally woeful as well, certainly an area for significant improvement in every resort I've been to.
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Dr John, best signposting I've experienced is all over the 3V. The worst is Verbier. (The Swiss do have some Achilles heels, don't they, another glaring example being Geneva Airport.)
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