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Look at the Greece. there's smoking ban, but i have seen ash trays in MC Donalds. In smaller airports than athens the same thing, especially when the tourist season is over.
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P.S. I have even been smoking bars in CA, US (pionieers in it) in the smaller wild west towns some 3 years ago..
The staff usually replied - we are against this policy and we don,t care.
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I was in Kaprun a month ago and people were puffing away in the bars. However, in the Alpincentre there were no smoking areas in the restaurant area and nobody smoked in the hotel restaurant either.
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Haha my sincere apologies Samerberg Sue
I was in Mayrhofen for the 2009 New year and whilst I was there (or around that time) there was some form of legislation change regarding smoking in public spaces.
And although there was an increase in "Rauchen verboten" signs it did seem to have little impact on the amount of smokers in bars.
I can't stand the smell of stale tobacco laced into your clothes the following morning!!!
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Hmm no Austrian hols for me then...... Doubtless that will be the deciding factor - that they won't get my custom without a smoking ban !!!!
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In Schladming more and more cafes and mountain huts are increasing the no smoking areas. It does seem no smoking is happening slowly, though the bars still are smoky and smelly.
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Fly out to Austria Tue and forgot how the Austrians dont go along with there governments smoking ban. I shall now be extremely disappointed if I dont get to have a beer and smoke, at the same time inside a pub! Will let you all know.
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jennycook, did you not ski, or indeed to to any pubs or restaurants in the UK, before the smoking ban came in?
waynos, was in Schladming before Xmas and there was a, erm, healthy amount of smoking going on, both on and off the mountain.
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Was in Vienna for four days in December, the hotel was no smoking in public areas and there was lots of cafes/bars that were non smoking.
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Indeed i did Dr John, .... no going back for me ...... i literally would not go to somewhere with no smoking ban now i have a choice.... It's an emotive subject and I'm not saying what anyone else should do ....
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Guys... there is no 'smoking-ban' in Austria as Samerberg Sue, stated earlier... there are smoking restrictions for certain sized bars/restaurants.
More and more places that do not need to offer a non-smoking area are now offering smoker-free areas. Dr John believe us... it is getting much better than previous years!
jennycook,
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that they won't get my custom without a smoking ban !!!!
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I'm afraid that they won't be particularly worried
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You know it makes sense.
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I can see where jennycook's coming from. We were in Austria in November and - because we are now so used to smoke-free environments - it was a shock to the system to encounter a smokey apres ski bar.
Similarly, the first time we entered a smoke-free pub (which was in Scotland, which I seem to recall banned smoking before England) was a shock - but in a good way.
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Richiavo - well that's not exactly true. The last part of the UK to introduce a smoking ban was in July 2007, 2 and a half years ago. In some parts, it's coming up to 4 years.
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Poster: A snowHead
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We walked out of quite a few mountain huts last week in the Ski Amade region because of the stink when we entered. If France and Italy can introduce (and enforce) a ban, why can't Austria?
(I have heard it rumoured that it is because there is still a state monopoly on the sale of cigarettes, and the Austrian government make so much money out of it that they are reluctant to introduce a wider ban because of the impact that would have on their income.)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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flangesax, don't apologise on my behalf, I'm a smoker and found it liberating, not to say nostalgic, to sit at a bar and smoke. I don't mind either way, quite happy nipping out once an hour for a gasper, just made a nice change not to have to.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Pete_On_The_Snow, We were first to do it....if they could do here theres no reason why it can't be blanketly enforced everywhere else.
RobW, Our Govt make millions on duty on tobacco over here, the ban didn't make a jot of difference to that....smokers will continue to smoke, just outside the boozer/eaterie/workplace
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dazman, The story was that it isn't just the duty the Austrian government gets, but a big proportion of the profits too!
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flangesax wrote: |
Guys... there is no 'smoking-ban' in Austria as Samerberg Sue, stated earlier... there are smoking restrictions for certain sized bars/restaurants.
More and more places that do not need to offer a non-smoking area are now offering smoker-free areas. Dr John believe us... it is getting much better than previous years!
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that they won't get my custom without a smoking ban !!!!
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No, they won't be worried at all.... and some parts of Austria actually thrive on "smoking tourism". Well, maybe "thrive" is going a bit far, but a lof of Italians like to nip over to Villach for the Kirchtag (basically a local version of Oktoberfest) and they love the fact that they can smoke there and the local businesses claim that a ban would be harmful to business. I suspect a ban will happen in Austria sooner or later, as it has happened in the UK, France, Italy, Ireland etc. If it's any consolation, I've found bars in Switzerland even worse...
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Back from Schladming and there is less smoke in the bars and hotels, some completely free of it. It's not being strictly enforced anywhere though. Still people having the odd crafty smoke and ash trays everywhere. Seems that the bigger the establishment the more chance there is of it being smoke free with a separate smoking area.
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Just returned from a week in Soll (Austria) smelling like the inside of an ashtray!! There is no ban in any of the hotels and bars, majority of bar staff smoke whilst working. My friends who have been to Austria before say it is not as bad as it was , so there has been a slight improvement probably because the vast majority are non smokers from the UK. However it took the edge off our holiday, so much so that we will not return until there has been a total ban.
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fasttrax wrote: |
:(However it took the edge off our holiday, so much so that we will not return until there has been a total ban. |
Why don't you write to the tourist office & even better write to the Tirol Minister of Tourism ?
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Yep thats the next port of call!!!!
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